Custom knife being made (am I getting a fair deal)?

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What a train wreck.
 
He looks young, give him the break someone once gave you. Tolerance is a two way street.

But I agree, it is over priced for what you can get on the maker's forum here
 
brownshoe said:
He looks young, give him the break someone once gave you. Tolerance is a two way street.

But I agree, it is over priced for what you can get on the maker's forum here
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I was younger once, but at no time did I assert that my race was superior and that I was better than anyone else merely due to the circumstances of my birth (and their birth) which is entirely beyond anyone's control.

While I realize that's anecdotal, I struggle to find any kind of justification for that being just a "youthful indiscretion" of sorts. In the age of the Internet (which he clearly has access to) there really just is no excuse for someone to has such a bafflingly ignorant and blindly hateful perspective.

Also his knives suck and he charges too much.
 
Even when I was gang banging "Peckerwood", I still never understood the notion of racial superiority or pride in ethnicity.

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Do I agree with his personal page? No. But don't judge his knife making/business on what he personally posts. If that was on his business page id steer clear. But everyone has personal beliefs. He's atleast mature enough to keep those separate then. It's your choice in the end. Judge him as a knife maker not by the person he is but the work he produces.


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blade dude said:
Do I agree with his personal page? No. But don't judge his knife making/business on what he personally posts. If that was on his business page id steer clear. But everyone has personal beliefs. He's atleast mature enough to keep those separate then. It's your choice in the end. Judge him as a knife maker not by the person he is but the work he produces.


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Work done by a person who is in favor of the murder of millions of innocent people. That is not work anyone should want to support.
 
My opinion.
Don't buy anything from this guy.
If you're still considering it, don't ask us.
Real men do not commit violence against women. Nor joke about it.
 
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That's the only downside I've seen. Too much personal info on his business page. Not smart to put racial preference on anything business related. And the knife near his gf's throat isn't exactly good marketing, but, that may not be a reflection of his quality. I'm still open to other customers knife makers but I don't know too many.
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In the price range you are looking at, you might check out JK Handmade here on the forum or at his website. John is great to deal with and his prices are reasonable.

I wouldn't personally buy from him (the person you are referencing, not John of course) due to the baggage. I might find myself associating it and not use the knife much. That is just me, though.
 
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blade dude said:
Do I agree with his personal page? No. But don't judge his knife making/business on what he personally posts. If that was on his business page id steer clear. But everyone has personal beliefs. He's atleast mature enough to keep those separate then. It's your choice in the end. Judge him as a knife maker not by the person he is but the work he produces.


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All aspects of a person that are made public are subject to judgement from others. That is inescapable.

While I fully understand the concept of separation of business and personal beliefs, there is a catch in this particular instance; When you are dealing with an individual, there is no separation of business and personal life because his personal life is supported (at least in part) by his business. If any percentage of his knife profits go towards stompin' boots and swastika tattoos, then his customers are directly supporting his other hobby: White Supremacy.

While I'm not saying that not giving him business will make him change his philosophies on race, I would be exceptionally hesitant to give the man any business. He has made his choices and he is clearly not shy about them, and it is up to others to decide whether they should have any sort of association with a fellow with such openly-stated convictions.

I am of the perspective that a maker or artisan of any variety puts their own unique tweaks and aspects into what they produce, and as such it is an expression and extension of themselves - given that, I would feel unclean carrying one of his knives. It would feel to me as if it radiated hate.

Not to Godwin myself here, but, consider the art of Adolph Hitler. His paintings of German Shepherds don't have any direct association with the man's personal beliefs about class and race, but you're not going to see one unironically displayed in a Jewish home in appreciation of the artwork. The maker and the product are inseparable.
 
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All aspects of a person that are made public are subject to judgement from others. That is inescapable.

While I fully understand the concept of separation of business and personal beliefs, there is a catch in this particular instance; When you are dealing with an individual, there is no separation of business and personal life because his personal life is supported (at least in part) by his business. If any percentage of his knife profits go towards stompin' boots and swastika tattoos, then his customers are directly supporting his other hobby: White Supremacy.

While I'm not saying that not giving him business will make him change his philosophies on race, I would be exceptionally hesitant to give the man any business. He has made his choices and he is clearly not shy about them, and it is up to others to decide whether they should have any sort of association with a fellow with such openly-stated convictions.

I am of the perspective that a maker or artisan of any variety puts their own unique tweaks and aspects into what they produce, and as such it is an expression and extension of themselves - given that, I would feel unclean carrying one of his knives. It would feel to me as if it radiated hate.

Not to Godwin myself here, but, consider the art of Adolph Hitler. His paintings of German Shepherds don't have any direct association with the man's personal beliefs about class and race, but you're not going to see one unironically displayed in a Jewish home in appreciation of the artwork. The maker and the product are inseparable.
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+1 That was well stated.
 
craytab said:
And from all appearances, a decent human!
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Yes, he definitely seems like a good man. And known by a number of people on this forum. I am sure there are many others in that range on here as well that are known to be good people.
 
Wilsonhome said:
Yes, he definitely seems like a good man. And known by a number of people on this forum. I am sure there are many others in that range on here as well that are known to be good people.
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And really, all you have to be is not a Nazi to be better than old adolf.
 
Wow. Even if I didn't make knives, I would never need a knife badly enough to support this dude.
Nope nopity nope nope.
Incidentally, the white power nonsense doesn't show up if you're not fb friends with the dude.
Blade might like a screencap of that before they publish, just sayin'
 
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You can find quite a few makers among the forums that do better work for the same price or less. Added bonus in not giving money to someone that believes in white power and weird conspiracies.
 
I have a little bit take on this, but it comes to the same conclusion. I personally don't care what anybody else's beliefs are. If somebody else wants to be racist or sexist or homophobic or anti-religious that's really none of my business and I don't presume to have the footing to judge somebody else's belief system. In short, I don't believe in bashing anybody's beliefs whether they're popular or not. If you want to believe in bigfoot and the Lochness monster more power to you. It really doesn't affect me one way or the other.

That being said, this guy has to know that people are going to see this stuff when they look him up. Whether you agree with his beliefs, don't care about them, or hate them isn't really the issue from my perspective. The issue is that he's aware that there's a huge portion of the population that's is going to react very negatively to that portion of his life, and he puts it out there anyways. The statement that he's making to me isn't that he feels superior, it's that he doesn't care what anybody thinks. He's going to do whatever he feels like doing regardless of how he's judged. That's not somebody that I would trust. In the knifemaking industry your reputation is everything, and rightfully so. People have to trust that you're going to deliver a quality product and that you're going to stand behind it, otherwise $200+ for a bar of steel is an incredibly bad deal. This is somebody that is screaming out that he doesn't care about his reputation, so what's to stop him from taking your money and sending you a sharpened piece of pot metal and telling you to take a hike? If you try to complain you're just going to be joining a long line of people that complain about this guy. You can see that from the reaction you've gotten in this thread. If he doesn't care about all of these other people complaining about the pictures he's chosen to post why would he care about you complaining about the knife he made?

So as I said from the beginning, I see things a little differently but I come to the same conclusion. I'd go with a maker that has spent years building up a good reputation by putting out a quality product and standing behind it over a guy that puts out a product that might be quality but you can't trust. Good luck whichever route you choose. Hopefully you get a knife that you love for years to come.
 
He needs to trash the FB racist stuff and make it politically correct. WLM. "White Lives Matter". Then he will be OK
 
Black Knives Matter
 
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