Custom Scagel Folder Reproductions & Original Scagels

[comoha]

Cool pics Dwight. I own two Scagel production repros but I have never seen the originals on which they were based.

 

[zerogee]

A rather similar original with bone scales - again probably made in the 1920s. About 3 3/8" closed. I have no idea where I got these images. The iron pins were typical of Scagel's folders, though this varies -- sometimes you'll even see a mix - iron pins used for the pivot and the backspring with brass used for the rest. Again, he's saving on pins on this one, compared to his typical generous scale pinning. The shield is silver on this one too -- just tarnished.

-- Dwight

 

[zerogee]

This is probably one of the finest original Scagel folders in existence - this is about as close to mint as an original Scagel gets, plus it's a special one. It's 4 1/4" long -- double ended, single spring, with what most of us today would call modified wharncliffe blades. Note the small, almost faceted swedges running the whole length of the blades - plus how the blades are forged offset from the plunge line of the tang out. Probably early to mid 1930s. And now you see the Scagel slots -- both curved, as usual. You also see two more pins on the scales -- this is more typical of Scagel pinning folder scales. You can also better see how the shield has been shaped to follow the surface of the stag. This is a scan from the cover of one of AG Russell's "Cutting Edge" catalogs - October 1999. Sadly, there was only this shot.

-- Dwight

 

[Blues]

This is great stuff, Dwight. I want to thank you for sharing these with us. :thumbup:

 

[zerogee]

I've got more but I'll be a little while digging it all up -- please, talk amongst yourselves, smoke 'em if you got 'em, ....

 

[knifehound]

Doug Noren M.S.

 

[knifehound]

W. Scagel

 

[knifehound]

Ron Welling

 

[okbohn]

Some beautiful knives here.

 

[kozak6]

Excellent knives, gentlemen.

I really like the hammered silver arrowhead shields. The hammered texture almost resembles that of knapped flint.

 

[Blues]

Thanks for sharing those additional images, knifehound! :thumbup:

Okay, Dwight..., it's on you, bud! ...

 

[tomcrx]

I really like the originals they have a organic look, almost like they were hewn, that really catches the eye

 

[brownshoe]

Jerry VanEizenga published a pattern/book on the basic scagel folder. He used to have a nice scagel style folder in his KnifeWorld ad. Anybody got some of his work to show?

 

[Thomason]

Another by Ray Kirk. Similar to the one Elliott posted but this one is natural canvas micarta instead of stag. I think it would be a safe bet to say Ol' Bill never used micarta. Then again it was developed in 1910 so he may have.
The pictures of the original Scagel knives in this thread are a real treat. Thanks for posting those.

 

[ELDE]

-Stag and 52100 - what else ?

ELDE

 

[jackknife]

A rather similar original with bone scales - again probably made in the 1920s. About 3 3/8" closed. I have no idea where I got these images. The iron pins were typical of Scagel's folders, though this varies -- sometimes you'll even see a mix - iron pins used for the pivot and the backspring with brass used for the rest. Again, he's saving on pins on this one, compared to his typical generous scale pinning. The shield is silver on this one too -- just tarnished.

-- Dwight

WOW!

If character was money, that knife is richer than Bill Gates!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[moonwilson]

WOW!

If character was money, that knife is richer than Bill Gates!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

You'd have to be Bill Gates to have one of those. How much are those things running now? $35,000 or so?

 

[Thomason]

My new computer wallpaper.
(Thanks for the pictures, Dwight. Thanks for the knives, William. Thanks for the thread, Elliott)

 

[wagglebee]

-Stag and 52100 - what else ?

ELDE

That is some incredible stag!

 

[zerogee]

Although it's a well worn example, it's still totally sound -- and furthermore, it's an original Scagel lefty folder. Also note the plenitude of scale pins here.

BTW, that nice little pot (I think it's a sugar "bowl") that this knife is so casually leaning against here is a Scagel also. [I remember that but have no idea where I got these images - oh well.]

Here is the original image of the last shot -- just to show some of the great variety of styles that Old Bill actually did (and that he could do as fine a finish as he wished - or that the customer wanted and would pay for).