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Customs Says "NO EXTENSION!" - They Want Your Pocket Knives NOW!
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then dont bitch when society pounds salt on your grave so the flowers never grow?
you can chose to be obstinate and ignore the wishes of your neighbors under the guise of "individualism" or whatever you like but reality nearly always tramples the selfish thoughts of inidividuals.
do not confuse individualism in your personality or how you lead your daily life with your supposed "individualism" that is just an excuse to do whatever you want and not ever have to compromise for other people. I would not suggest that you subject yourself to a 1950s style conformist lifestyle but I do ask that every person realize that they have to put in their effort to make this whole thing work and that somestimes means doing things you dont necesarrily like.
most people are so locked into a perspective that views human beings as more dignified than they really are that they cannot see past this idea that every person has some birthright to any manner of things. reality is we are nothing more than monkeys with language skills and a bad case of baldness. even if we are something more that has no effect on the actual actions of human beings; and so like the animals we are we function only on the rules we set for ourselves. when 2/3rds of the monkies decide something is no longer acceptible even though it may have been considered a "right" in the past that "right" goes away. I have said many times, and this point is often ignored, that no one person is gauranteed to have things go their way without regard to everyone else.
that's what I thought.
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I don't expect much from society(or most individuals), and so far, by keeping my expectations minscule, I have not been disappointed.
By the way, the "reality" you may be speaking of is the "selfish thoughts" of individuals with too much power over others. They are not guided by lofty ideals of the "greater good", no matter how they package it.
I tolerate much I find repugnant, which means society(which is made up of individuals, just so you know), can damn well tolerate what they may find repugnant about me and my wishes.
And, if they cannot, then they can go pound salt(and it ain't going to be me they're pounding it on).
P.S.- when I'm dead(which is generally what you are when in a grave), then I REALLY don't care about the wishes of society.
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Got the same thing here.
Lovely isn't it.......
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency's proposal to modify the definition of a switchblade under the "Switchblade Act of 1958." (P.L. 85-623) I appreciate hearing from you.
On May 21, 2009, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency proposed a revision of the definition of a switchblade knife for importation purposes. This new interpretation would prohibit assisted opening knives, as well as those featuring one-hand operations, from being imported under the "Switchblade Act of 1958." The proposed changes should not affect knives currently in the United States, only a portion of imported knives.
The public comment period ended June 21, 2009. The agency will review the comments and make a final determination on the proposal within thirty calendar days. It will be effective for all affected imports made sixty days after publication. I will keep your comments and views in mind as this matter moves forward.
If you would like to receive timely email alerts regarding the latest congressional actions and my weekly e-newsletter, please sign up via my web site at: www.chambliss.senate.gov. Please let me know whenever I may be of assistance
Is this in response to me? Should I not have posted the response I got back from my rep? Sorry if thats against the rules. Im not trying to pick a side, just shared what I received back from my rep after sending a customized version of the text presented here.
Sorry If I violated a rule. Maybe I should have removed the reps name huh?
Sorry If I violated a rule. Maybe I should have removed the reps name huh?
i am pretty sure you have said nothing wrong here, that was towards the political argument between those who are super strict constitutionalists and the broad constitutionalists
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Thanks SR matt.
Some folks can not understand that there political rants do not belong here so they continue to troll this thread.
Jeff your responses have been great and are not an issue, since they actually pertain to what is trying to be accomplished.
Some folks can not understand that there political rants do not belong here so they continue to troll this thread.
Jeff your responses have been great and are not an issue, since they actually pertain to what is trying to be accomplished.
I can see though how it goes there though and i think this thread has shown the way it gets there. The main issue comes from WHY the "sides" think we have the right/privilege/ability/etc to have these items and very little willingness from some to even listen to the other view point to understand.
I keep thinking maybe we should open up a political discussion thread for this over the the poli area but i worry i would degrade since some people never want to unplug their ears and let their guard down and respond rudely (not saying it happens here but i have seen it happen recently else where).
and remember guys we are fighting to allow the TOOLS we use to stay in our pockets.
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mc manis and stabman are good people, they have just gotten off base, and off-topic. I hope that they will take their discussion out of this thread. What we are trying to accomplish is far too important to get off track.
When your congress person gives you a ginaric brush-off, you need to be sure that they got the 63 page ruling from customs and then you need to call their office and talk to the head assistant and explain (politely) that this is an important problem and that almost 80 congress persons are opposed to Customs and that this person also need to be seen as active on this subject.
Do not threaten them but do be prepared to campaign for someone else if them do not join us.
When your congress person gives you a ginaric brush-off, you need to be sure that they got the 63 page ruling from customs and then you need to call their office and talk to the head assistant and explain (politely) that this is an important problem and that almost 80 congress persons are opposed to Customs and that this person also need to be seen as active on this subject.
Do not threaten them but do be prepared to campaign for someone else if them do not join us.
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Just got my notice from AKTI that Texas' Governor Perry has officially signed into law AKTI's initiative to specifically emphasize the LEGALITY of assisted and one-hand opening knives in the Texas switchblade statute. New (revised) law goes into effect on September 1st. Much thanks to AKTI and all who helped with this.
I'm a Texas resident, and I've sent my emails to Congress and a letter to CBP to voice my objections to CBP's proposed rule change. Haven't heard any replies yet, don't necessarily expect any. I'll just keep watching where this goes and keep my fingers crossed in the meantime.
I'm a Texas resident, and I've sent my emails to Congress and a letter to CBP to voice my objections to CBP's proposed rule change. Haven't heard any replies yet, don't necessarily expect any. I'll just keep watching where this goes and keep my fingers crossed in the meantime.
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Ok now I'm confused. I'm a Texas resident also. So, what exactly does this mean? If I read it right, Texas would allow me to carry my AO knives legally? If so, would State Law trump Federal Customs should the new ban go into effect?
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I'll love him if he cast's a vote that lets me keep EDCing my
AO's and one hand openers.
the way CBP is writing their stuff theres nothing there that prevents us from carrying, its importing, selling, etc
however a state law cannot nullify a federal law (i.e. if X is illegal to posses TX cant say you can legally posses X)
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Legal Experts, please correct me if I'm wrong:
As I understand it (I'm NOT a lawyer, just a knife user), Federal law would have jurisdiction IF (and only IF) you were to carry your AO knife across state lines (governed by Interstate Commerce, which is under jurisdiction of Federal Law). The Feds would also govern what comes into the U.S., in the case of manufacturers importing their product from overseas. As long as you're carrying within the state of Texas, State Law has precedent and your AO would be legal. The new law is more specific as to what IS LEGAL in Texas, so personally, I'd at least exercise some caution prior to Sept. 1st, when the new law takes effect.
My point was, in my earlier post, that at least I know the state of Texas understands the difference between a switchblade and the AO/One Hand Openers... still need to make sure that our Senators and Representatives work to keep the CBP folks in check...
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Accomplish the task on hand, and take it over to the political forum. It is an important issue that gets to everyone's opinion of rights, role of government, etc., but the main point was to see how everyone can get Customs to reconsider its position, the political forum is much better place to "get into" the meat of the topic.
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By the way, the Federal switchblade law that CBP wants to 'creatively re-interpret' for AO's and One-Handers governs only what can be shipped into the U.S., and what can travel across state lines. It restricts such shipments to law enforcement or military only. It does NOT determine what can or can't be owned or possessed. Case in point, the U.S. companies which are LEGALLY manufacturing & selling switchblade knives (Benchmade, Microtech) inside the U.S., and the fact that some states & municipalities allow the owning/possession/carry of switchblades (legal to own/carry in Arizona, I believe).
To my knowledge, there is no federal law which prevents simple ownership or possession of switchblades/AO/One-Handers in the U.S.
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