Cutter Knife & Tool.......Brend 2 manual

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There is a good thread in the "Knife Review" section you can also check out, but I thought I would post here in the General section for added exposure. I posted this a few weeks ago but did so under the title of "CK&T" and figure it might have thrown people off a bit thinking I had forgotten the "R"!

Every indication from the folks who actually have one is that this is a pretty good piece of cutlery. Fit and finish is outstanding while quality materials are being used to construct it. Without a doubt this knife is going to fall into competition with the Sebenza and the Ralph/Wilson Tactical Elite. All three are framelock knives that are also heavy duty knives that have the same basic structure of titanium handles and steel blades. Prices range from around $270 and go up from there for all three models.

Anyone else out there have one of the new manuals feel free to report any findings you may have as inquiring minds want to know! Anyone with the DA version you also tell what you've found.
 
Well, you already know how I feel ;)

Look for big things to come out of this company if they continue in the direction they're heading.

Love my Brend and have it with me today :)
 
Since you posted a link to that thread Chad I'm going to give my first impressions of the Cutter/Brend on this thread. Yes, that means it has arrived! Upon initial inspection I found the blade to be perfectly centered in the closed position, and when opened there is no hint of any blade play of any type. The framelock comes over on the blade tang about 30% to 40% and is just where I like for it to be. The blade is SHARP and the point is POINTY SHARP. The anopeen finish on it is more like a glass bead finish in that it doesn't have the rough feel of a bead blast finish. The logo for W. Brend is applied with on distortion of any kind and is centered and level and looks extremely good. The Cutter Tool and Knife along with the serial number is applied on top of the blade and also is done with care.

The only problem I have found so far is that when the blade is closed it has a little travel from where the detent and ball come together. The travel is not much, maybe a 1/16" but it is there nontheless. What does it mean........probably not much and when I take it down I will see more into what is the deal with it. I will disassemble it to clean and relube with Sentry Tuff-Glide.

The action is extremely smooth out of the box, but I will tighten it up a bit from there.

So my initial impression is one of satisfaction. I think me and this knife will get along just fine..........and if not, well you know where to look!!
 
Hi Art, glad you got the knife.

I think the detent is by design, mine does it as well. It really doesn't bother me a bit.

How would you compare it to the Wilson/Ralph collaboration folder?
 
Art!
Was looking forward to what you had to say.
As far as the ball, and detent, my D/A acts the same. I think it must be the nature of the beast. BUT what happens on mine is it bounces right into the hole of the blade like it is supposed to. I have torn mine apart, and re-adjusted it several times, and for it to work right it has to do this, and no matter what I do it aligns up in the same spot so that is why I think that is why it is supposed to be.
Also I learned something else this morning when I had it apart. I wanted to see how tough that anopeen is on the blade, and it is TOUGH. I scratched it on purpose with crocus cloth to put scratches on it as it is a "user", and not a safe queen. You can get light scratches on it but if you buff it out the scratches dissappear. Not like beadblast whiche leaves permanent marks.
One other thing I know you always tighten up your pivot real tight, and I will tell you this it will still be smooth after you once get it "broken in" as I also did the same to see if it would get to a point where the blade would not move or be harder to move. Stayed the same!
Other than that you know how I feel about the knife from the other thread on "reviews".
Now sit down, watch TV, and recycle the blade, and feel it get smoother, and smoother :D :D

Enjoy:)

Larry
 
Originally posted by LarryLuana
I wanted to see how tough that anopeen is on the blade, and it is TOUGH.


The manual action's have a hand rubbed satin finish :D :p

[At least it definitely looks like every hand rubbed finish I've ever seen]
 
Art, can you give me an ETA so i know when to start checking out the for sale forum? :)

[Sorry Art, i never can pass up the opportunity to tease you] :)

Actually, im thinking i may just have to get one of the DA models. Since i doubt this knife can really beat the Sebenza in the fit and finish dept, i see no reason to buy the manual version, but to have a DA "Sebenza" does appeal to me.
 
I recieved mine today, and I think that it is a very well made knife. Will just take a little while for me to get used to, but will be in my rotation.

And I have to say that I dont have the slightest problem comparing it to the Sebenza.
 
I have one of the earlier version D/A's as you know I am sure, and they only came with anopeen. I want a satin finish blade eventually, and when they get caught up on all the orders for the manuals I will order a satin finish blade as an extra as they are not that expensive. But in the meantime will be satisfied with the anoppen now knowing it can take a beating, and still not look ugly. Satin does make the knife look great though :)
Do like the D/A action of the knife I have though, and don't regret getting it. More fun factor, and built like a tank.
Mine is already in my edc rotation along with me leather inlay Sebenza, and makes a great team :)

Larry
 
Originally posted by Megalobyte
Since i doubt this knife can really beat the Sebenza in the fit and finish dept....

It won't beat a Seb in the F&F but it beats the Seb in the T&A. :D

I think it has more character than a standard Seb along with a larger blade, so it's a trade off for the minor fit and finish differences.

The only places they share similarity really is the quality of lock-up and build quality other than that they're two completely different knives.

Use that logic on every titanium frame lock and you'd run out of things to buy ;)


Larry, I don't think a peened finish was ever offered on the MA's, at least I've never seen one, and the peened finish is still standard on the DA's. I'm really not opposed to either personally but if you are inclined to go with a satin finish don't hesitate - it looks good!
 
I think what you are trying to say is the D/A was only offered in the anopeen finish, and that is correct. I talked to Tom(Cutters) about it last week, and he said he had some satin blades made up for future D/A's but those knives were already sold, and he had no extras made up at the time but will eventually. I am in no hurry but do want to make the change as have already had the hardware polished, and feel the satin blade would dress it up that much more. Plus I like the idea of the logos on both sides rather than on the same side as mine is. I know pickey, pickey :)
I also agree for F & F it does not compare to my Sebenza but as far as how it performs it is as good plus having the D/A function, and a longer blade.
Just throwing my .02 cents in again.

Larry
 
My manual has the anopeen finish and it looks more like a glass bead finish to me. The detent thing is all around huh? Well if you guys can live with it so can I! The innards are just like a Sebenza so no matter how tight I tighten the pivot it will still let the blade rotate freely. It has already smoothed up a bit but it's had a hundred or so openings!! I agree as far as fit and finsih to a Sebbie, the sebbie wins. But I do like the idea of a four inch long and .148" thick spearpoint/recurve blade. The edge was a tad rough even though it would shave with no problem but after 20 passes on the edges of the white stones of my 204 it just slices and dices now. I also have no problem with the clip being too low. Due to the flatness and the narrowness of the pivot area it does not show all that much and is VERY comfortable to carry. It does beat out the Sebenza in the thickness dept! The titanium slabs measure out at .170" thick. Another thing I'm glad of is the single logo on the blade. Cutters mark looks kinda neat done on the top of the blade.

Okay there you have it. So far so good. Meg, you'll be the first one I call!!:eek: :D ;)
 
Art, would you mind if i started a pool? :)


Actually, just came across the pertinent section of North Carolina's Penal code, section 2(a)

(a)...whereas in the course of knife collecting, meaning one who accumulates sharpened objects for the purpose of recreation or other enjoyment, Art Sigmon possesses or otherwise gains possession of, a knife, for the purposes of this section, the term "knife" shall be construed to mean any metallic or semi-metallic object manipulated or designed to cut or slice with efficiency, he shall be prohibited from owning said knife for not less than one day, but not more than 14 days from the time of purchase of said knife, and shall, guided by the language in the previous section, id. offer said knife for sale in any forum which is designed to offer for sale such knives as Art may possess, and provided, in accordance with section 6 of the Spark code, be a Gold member in good standing. He shall also offer said knives at a reduced cost in accordance with previously established rules of conduct, and shall ship them utilizing a service known for speedy, reliable shipping. A failure to adhere to any of the above mentioned rules may result in the commission of a knife-felony in the 3rd degree, and confiscation of all knives in the defendant's possession, to be sold thereafter in Blade Forums for no more than 10 cents on the dollar.
 
Okay, so it's built like the proverbial "brick shythouse", but how does it cut?

Paul
 
:eek: :eek: :eek: Not more than 14 DAYS!!! Oh my, don't tell them about the RF-1 or the LDC-5....why I've had them for over a MONTH now.:eek: :eek:


Good one Meg!:D :cool: :)

Btw, I emailed you about the RF-1 you have.


Btw, Paul I have not had a chance to cut anything more than newsprint, and that to test the edge. Should prove to be at least an adequate cutter if not a good cutting knife. It lacks the thinness of the Sebenza blade so I doubt it will be as good a slicer. Should be a fantastic "sticker" though.
 
I profiled the edge on mine down to about 16 degrees, and made it a thinner higher bevel, and cuts very well now.
One thing else I noticed, and forgot to ask Tom(Cutters) was the RC on the blade as it seems very hard for 154CM, and as hard as it was to change the bevel I would say it is more like 61-62 RC rather than the standard 60 RC.Should hold an edge well but will keep and eye out for chipping although I don't plan on cutting wire, staples, etc.:) Time will tell.

Larry
 
I have a MA Brend and it is a great knife. Lucky for me mine was a gift from the company owner. I am a deputy Sheriff and carry my Brend everyday and everywhere. It cuts great and is built like a brick **** house. Tom will be coming out with some more great knives that are in the works now. Knowing Tom for as long as I have I can tell you he is very picky when checking the quality of the knives he makes. I know that one of the first DA's went to the amazon with a gentleman who used it for everything and he gave the knife a great review. Look forward to Cutters Knife and tool to be around for a long time to come.
 
Welcome onboard SDB. Went to the Amazon you say. If there is anywhere on earth that would test a mechanical device I would think this is one of them!
 
Originally posted by PWork
...how does it cut?

Hi Paul,

I have not had a chance to test mine extensively but I can comment based on what I've seen.

The blade on the Brend is more of a defensive blade than the Sebenza, so it has a more shallow & narrow grind so it will lose a little cutting performance there. It also has a slightly thicker blade and we all know what that does to slicing performace when compared to a thinner blade. The Sebby also has a thinner point.

On the Brend, the blade is not as wide (edge to spine), longer and a recurve.

I think in a direct comparison the Sebenza would come out ahead in detailed point work and slicing where the Brend is more suited for utility work. The recurve will add a lot to overall utility value IMO.

My Brend came with an edge slightly thicker than my Sebenza's but I think it's a fine trade off based on the attributes of the blade.

I have been carrying the Brend almost exclusively since I got it and I can say it has done every thing I have thrown at it as well as a Sebenza and does marginally better than the Seb in my apple cutting test primarily due to the width of the blade.

My apple cutting test just in case you were wondering...
For a knife to qualify as an "EDC" in my book it needs to be able to do a good job at cutting an apple into 6-8 wedges and then coring the wedges. A good EDC should be able to do this without cracking the apple and without wasting too much by making wide cuts.

Failing the apple cutting test does not mean a knife won't get carried I just would not be willing to call it an EDC.

When all is said and done I feel they each excel at different area but are generally equal for EDC use.
 
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