CZ P07 Duty or Sig 229 DAK?

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gixxer1237

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So I'm looking for a replacement for my Hk USP I had to let go to help when I was unemployed last year. The only reason I'm not going back HK is the cost is ridiculous and I just want to try something new. Got it narrowed down to the CZ P07 Duty and the Sig 229 DAK. I have put hundreds or rounds through a Sig P226 and P226 and both where exceptionally accurate for me. I like the trigger pull on the DAK. Was sure that was what I was getting until I found a P 07 today at the LGS. Felt great. The controls are different but completely learnable. Mag and such would be slightly harder to get and not sure on holster availability. Any of my Busse people he experience with the CZ?
 
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Toss a coin!
My Godfather just got the CZ and it's an incredible pistol.
 
You can't go wrong with a CZ Pistol.The CZ 75 SA is reliable and straight shooting.
 
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Never shot a CZ but I have a sig and have put thousands of rounds through it. She has never let me down and shoots straight as an arrow.
 
I love Sigs but you've got to try the 229 first. This .40 has a particular recoil that twists to one side. I don't find it pleasant at all, but that's a personal thing. I own a 226 and will not part with it.

CZ have always been well built machines as well..... Reliable and precise..... But be careful. A firearm with a safety takes A LOT of training to get used to it. To accomplish the transition from no safety to safety, that is. That is more so if you intend to use it for self defense.
 
The cz is extremely accurate, and fun to shoot, but heavy. If you are picking it up for ccw/edc then maybe rethink. That would be my only concern for you bud. I have never met a sig I didn't like.
 
Most of the gun blogs advise to stay away from the new sigs. If you can find a German sig you might consider it. Then again I had an old german p228 that couldn't complete a magazine without a malfunction regardless of ammo. The high bore axis on the sigs make them buck a lot more than most pistols in the same caliber. I cannot advise going with a Sig. This is just the opinion. Some guys love their sigs.

CZ is now making the Dan Wesson 1911's. I own one and can attest to the quality of the pistol. I've not owned any other CZ pistols so I can't comment on the model you are considering. For ergonomics lots of guys like the XD series. Good pistols.

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CZ, but then again Sig quality has gone down hill in recent years in my opinion. I've shot all 3 and used to own an HK 45.

Here is my not run of the mill CZ.

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I've always ran a ccw with a safety. I started backwards, 1911 then went beretta 92, then USP. So learning a frame mounted safety is easy. The P07 is lighter than anything I've carried before, but so is the sig. I've owned 2 40 cals, a go 3 and a usp40. Neither recoiled weird. Sharper than a 45 but not as hard. Is this a 229 specific fault?
 
So I'm confused. Are you looking at the P-07 or the PCR? The P-07 is a poly framed gun. The PCR is aluminum framed. They are different guns. The P-07 and P-09 come with parts to change between safety and decocker. The PCR can accommodate a short reset disconnector. Not sure yet on the P-07 or P-09. Look at where my trigger rests in the picture. That's exactly where the reset point is, and the trigger pull distance is about 1/10 of an inch.
 
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P07. Just went back and no idea how I put pc. Stupid Auto correct.
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Good choice since you can swap between safety or decocker with the included parts kit. You can also find a variant of the P-07 that comes with an extended barrel from the factory. There is also an extended threaded barrel for the P-07 as well should you wish to suppress it at a later time.
 
Another consideration may be a Belgium made Browning Hi Power.


Single action, very reliable great pistol...

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Another consideration may be a Belgium made Browning Hi Power.


Single action, very reliable great pistol...

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I have one of those too. Hehe. The trigger is actually pretty heavy out of the box, but the trigger travel distance is very short. Reset is nice and crisp too. The trigger pull has to be something like 7 pounds single action. The grip also feels blocky compared to my CZ. I love it. Make no mistake. The gun feels deceptively light despite being an all steel piece.
 
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I have one of those too. Hehe. The trigger is actually pretty heavy out of the box, but the trigger travel distance is very short. Reset is nice and crisp too. The trigger pull has to be something like 7 pounds single action. The grip also feels blocky compared to my CZ.
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Oh yeah. The Hi Power is not unlike it's older brother the 1911. Most require some sort of tweeking to reach their full potential. I'll agree that the 13 rd mag does make the handle a bit blocky considering the slim profile of the pistol. I've often wondered what a single stack mag model would've felt like. John Browning passed way too soon I suppose.

One more consideration I'll throw out there is the Kahr line of pistols. Very compact and concealable, they are built like a swiss watch. I own several and am very impressed with the accuracy and reliability from such a small package. If you haven't considered them, you might want to do so. The D/A trigger is unsurpassed... smooth without stacking feel. Like melting butter.

The biggest problem is that there are so many great pistols on the market that it is difficult to choose one. I must reiterate that I do not consider Sig Sauer to be in an acceptable category at this time. The company has issues. Don't take my word for it though. Search the net for Sig problems and take a week off from work to read them all. It is not a suitable self defense tool in my opinion.

Good luck in your choice.


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It's funny because I got the Hi-power months before getting the CZ. At the time, I thought the gun felt fantastic in the hand. Then I got my custom CZ and it was night and day. More rounds in my CZ, slimmer handle profile, and less sharp edges. The Hi-power causes hot spots in my hands from the edges of the rear back strap. The thing could use a melt job. Never the less it's one of my favorites, just not as favorite as my CZ. Then again Hi-power was 400 bucks new to me. CZ was almost 6 times that from the custom shop.
 
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So I'm looking for a replacement for my Hk USP I had to let go to help when I was unemployed last year. The only reason I'm not going back HK is the cost is ridiculous and I just want to try something new. Got it narrowed down to the CZ P07 Duty and the Sig 229 DAK. I have put hundreds or rounds through a Sig P226 and P226 and both where exceptionally accurate for me. I like the trigger pull on the DAK. Was sure that was what I was getting until I found a P 07 today at the LGS. Felt great. The controls are different but completely learnable. Mag and such would be slightly harder to get and not sure on holster availability. Any of my Busse people he experience with the CZ?
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Havn`t any experience with the CZ P07 or the SIG 229 DAK, but i have some experience with the CZ 75 and and a lot experience with the SIG P210, both in 9x19 mm. Both handguns are made to be relaible service handguns but wery popular at civil shooting ranges as well. The CZ 75 is good value for the money- the SIG costs more, but works like a Rolex no matter temperature or condisions.

Looking foreward to here which you choose and why- good luck :)
 
I hate Sigs, they just don't do it for me. I was going to get the P07 to replace a Kahr (good guns but long trigger pull) until I discovered the Caracal compact. Little-known gun but such a sweet sweet shooter!!!!!! After thousands of rounds it's my "If you could have only one" pistol. Like glock and steyr had a baby.
 
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I've always ran a ccw with a safety. I started backwards, 1911 then went beretta 92, then USP. So learning a frame mounted safety is easy. The P07 is lighter than anything I've carried before, but so is the sig. I've owned 2 40 cals, a go 3 and a usp40. Neither recoiled weird. Sharper than a 45 but not as hard. Is this a 229 specific fault?
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I do believe that's its 229 specific. The bore is higher than say a Glock in the same caliber. I've shot Glocks in .40 cal. and found them sweet shooting in comparison. However I have no problem switching from Sigs to Glock in 9mm, the recoil feels the same to me ( love a Sig in good old .45)..... I enjoy and trust them both equally.

That being said I know many people who use Sigs ( 226 and 229) and bet their lives on them.

I've recently shot a CZ Phantom ..... NICE! .... I've also shot the older models of CZ in the late 80s. Ruger like tough. Hard choices, my friend.
 
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