Recommendation? D2 knife rusts too fast, need a new outdoor folder.

Ouch, 70€ for a Cold Steel Pro Lite! :oops: I bought mine 35€ several years ago.

14C28N is very rust resistant and a much better steel than on the Pro Lite

Look at the Manly City, 3inch blade from Manly knives (made in Bulgaria) for ~45€
 
gooeytek said:
That's not typical of D2, Chinese or not.
I have a TwoSun Tusk in D2 whose blade I left in vinegar for 6 hours and it only got slightly darker. No rust.
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Agreed,

one of my edc "abuse" knives is super cheap chinese D2 (that's been tested as real D2) and it's never even come close to rusting. From my experience (living in a very wet/humid environment) D2 is actually much more corrosion resistant than 1095, O1, and 80crv2.

Either it's the coating or that's not actual d2 steel.
 
OP, you might let us know which knife brands are available to you over there. A lot of us here in the USA are thinking of brands you may not even be able to get there.

I like my Spydercos in VG-10. Even S30v would be better that what you have.

That does look like a lot of rust. You said you cleaned and oiled the knife before putting it in your bag, but for that amount of rust to appear, there had to be some moisture in the bag, I think. For example, if you put it with sweaty clothes, that is wet and a little salty, which will do a number on a D2 blade.

If you can get a RAT (Randall Adventure Training) Model 2, they make it in D2 and also AUS8, I think. Mine is in D2, so it's the R2D2. :)

Spyderco Native 5 is a classic recommendation; available in all kinds of steels. Mine is Maxamet, which is no better than D2 in terms of stainlessness, but they also make it in ones that are not as hard but a lot more stainless. I think you can get them in Europe, where they're legal. If not, I can also highly recommend the Spyderco UKPK. It doesn't lock, but there's no worry of it closing on you and cutting you, due to that forward choil. Ergonomically, they're great and I think there are a few different steels available. Mine is in BD1N.

Last thing: Here is a good knife steel reference, which outlines a lot of common knife steels in 4 criteria: stain/rust resistance, toughness, sharpenability and edge retention:
www.bladehq.com

Knife Steel Guide - Knife Life

In its most basic form, steel is just iron and carbon, but people have been studying, experimenting with, and perfecting steel with other elements for specific applications for millennia. The study of steel is now so complex and nuanced that one can acquire a graduate degree in the subject and...
www.bladehq.com www.bladehq.com

You'll notice that D2 is rated only 5/10 in corrosion resistance, which I think is a generous rating for a tool steel.
 
D2 doesn't rust too fast... that is to say unless you are going out of your way to rust it up. D2 will sure act like stainless even though it's barely not.
 
Got the newer Sog Trident AT with cryo D-2. No problems so far but do wipe in down with CLP or Rem-Oil frequently. Heard something about rust with it being a semi stainless steel. Not sure if being a Taiwan knife makes a difference over China. Would think the Ti-Ni coating would make a difference too. Good info here though.
 
jmh33 said:
😂😂
Storybook Forest amusement park in Pa. Was there last week with my son and his family. 👍
John 😁
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Idlewild park near Ligonier. I've been there as a kid. remember they had an old wooden Rollercoaster that was real mild.......
 
jbmonkey said:
Idlewild park near Ligonier. I've been there as a kid. remember they had an old wooden Rollercoaster that was real mild.......
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Still do. That was my grandson’s first roller coaster ride last week. He is 5yrs old and was petrified!! 😂😂
John 😁
 
jmh33 said:
Still do. That was my grandson’s first roller coaster ride last week. He is 5yrs old and was petrified!! 😂😂
John 😁
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I remember that. ride was short and quick. maybe a handful of seconds long or a minute and half tops...this was long ago. cant remember how old i was? a kid though. they had a bunch of old school carnival type rides and games though and I had a blast on those. seem to remember a train ride around the park...maybe that was the storybook forest deal...can't remember. good times though, sorry op for off topic diversion
 
Faas said:
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Some photos.

Just to clarify, i'm fine with having to take care of my knife every week / every time using it, but i'm also not really up to seeing it rust this fast
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I do have a D2 pocket knife, also from QSP, I wanted a cheap beater. It was 9Cr18Mov (About 440B/C) steel on the site, but they changed the steel without notice, only 25 CAD back then no big deal.

I'm neither a fan of D2 or QSP knife. Though I brought it out for outdoor activities a few times in rain and wet condition, it did get some in colour, but very minimal, no rust. The guy who was with me had a short Ka-Bar and the edge got rusted when we were walking under the rain. When my knife sits on the shelves, I don't even oil it.

By the look of it, the rust doesn't appear to be humility in my opinion, What kind of oil do you use to clean your knife with?

For stainless knives recommendation with similar features, there are way too many so I will make it short:
Cheap Chinese option: Civivi/WE knives in Nitro-V and 9Cr18Mov, Kizer in N690 or 154CM, Boker Plus in VG10, Ruike in 14C28N, Spyderco Chinese line.

European made: Manly from Bulgaria has some excellent offers. Fox knives are sure hits and some models are inexpensive.

There are other, but expensive in EU and not worth it..
 
This is very strange, as everyone mentioned, D2 does not rust easily, and on top of it, there is a coating on the blade. Even the screws are rusted. Did you remove the knife, is there any rust on the liners? I'm not questioning steel because cheaper alternatives usually don't rust either. Even if they wrote D2 and used 3cr13mov or 5cr13mov as an example, it would not rust easily. I do not know the brand, but in some posts they wrote that it does not have a bad reputation. I think it may have been exposed to something in your bag. Something similar happened to a stainless knife that I threw in my gym bag and stayed in sweaty clothes for several hours. I noticed it when I got home, I immediately disassembled it and cleaned it with rust remover. It came off very easily.
 
Corrosion is very situation/environment specific and D2 is not considered a proper stainless steel.

I would check out the link from Another Shepherd Another Shepherd in post#6 (there are tables that make it easy to compare further down on that page)and find a knife you like in one of the better stainless steels. There are plenty of budget options like 14C28N and others that you shouldn't have too many issues with.
 
shinyedges said:
Something isn't right on that knife. I've had d2 in folders for years and never seen it get like that even after neglect. That's like over night in the ocean plus some.

I'd question the actual steel on it.

Buy a better knife from a more reputable company would be my suggestion.
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QSP might not be the best or highest quality among Chinese manufacturers but they are known to use the steels they claim.

It looks like the knife was in wet contact with something salty or acidic. It could have been prior to putting it in the bag or it could have been something inside the bag. Depending on the substance, it's hard to know if a stainless steel would have been corroded or not. As you know, the degree to which a steel is stainless is just how high of a hedge you get. D2 is a semi-stainless steel so you get a hedge. It's just a low hedge.

Faas Faas , look at Kizer, Civivi, or Sencut knives in 9Cr18Mov, N690, or 14C28N. Those steels all have excellent resistance to corrosion. They are each a step up from VG-10 in corrosion resistance, and VG-10 is itself a step up AUS-8, 8Cr13Mov, or 154CM. (If VG-10 is acceptable, you might also consider 10Cr15CoMov.) Between those brands, you should be able to find something you like in one of those steels at a price not too far off from what you had. Even if they cost a little more, I've had much better experiences with those brands and I'd say it's worth it.
 
If you like the design of that knife and want something similar with a more stain-resistant blade, look for one of the old US-made Kershaw Skylines in 14C28N (or even S30V) steel. They're discontinued now (new ones have D2 blades), but they were pretty popular for a long time, so they may be more readily available on the secondary market.

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For that price in Europe, there are several options from Victorinox, Swiza, Boker, EKA, Cjrb, Kansept, Rough Rider...

Opinel is also solid, with plastic or wooden handles

For a bit more you can also try Lionsteel, MKM

Any cheap SS knife should be OK really.
 
chalby said:
Corrosion is very situation/environment specific and D2 is not considered a proper stainless steel.
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Corrosion might be knife specific or even person specific. I've had several SOG D2 knives that rusted lightly if I just took them outside for a few hours during a Florida summer. None of my non-D2 knives have ever rusted except in extreme conditions. Other people have reported that D2 rusts easily. Obviously, some people have no trouble with D2 rusting.

I have some 3V and CruWear blades. I use them mainly in dry weather, but sometimes there is a surprise thunderstorm and they get wet. I dry them off. No rust.

If I were going to use a D2 knife, I would pay close attention to this thread:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/rust-prevention-test-summer-2023-edition.1932311/
 
I agree about the D2 in your QSP being questionable. I have an old Brous Bionic I never use and has sat in a cabinet for 7 years without oil or anything, and 0 rust. D2 is considered a semi-stainless. I will also admit, that I always at least clean and dry my blades after use, and even CPM-M4 only gets a few spots once in a while. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I sweat very little so maybe thats it.
 
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