daboia Flipper review.

[Lost Cosmonaut]

I haven't been able to put this thing down since I got it. Seriously the smoothest and most fun to play with flipper I own. The next closest flippers in smoothness and feel would be my Guardian Tactical Helix which feels plasticy and cheap overall despite the nearly $400 price tag, and the Spyderco Rubicon which is an incredible knife that flips like a dream and is crazy smooth, but suffers from a sticky lock that's hard to reach easily because there's no relief in the scale.

I've flipped it constantly since I got it Monday and it still is rock solid on lockup, no lock stick to speak of, no blade play, still perfectly centered.

Still very very impressed.

 

[Scrim]

[video=youtube_share;8e0edG5uTrs]http://youtu.be/8e0edG5uTrs[/video]As much as it pains me, only because of the disdain I have for CKF, it is a great knife. I got mine today ("black" coated blade, really more of a gun metal color,not black for sure.) I too am very impressed with fit & finish, tolerances, smoothness of action & the right amount of release tension on the lock bar, a pleasure to operate one handed, opening or closing the knife...and everything else previously mentioned in this thread is accurate based on what I see on my Daboia. I did NOT buy it from CKF and will never buy anything from them directly again. I also give them no credit for the design of manufacturing of this knife. But for the money, wow. Very-nice-knife. The tritium, in reality, is pretty dim, but I guess, based on what I've read about it, that tritium is always a fairly dim source of illumination. But it's an interesting touch. Nicely done, Chinese manufacturers of this knife! Am I glad I got this one? Hell yes.

 

[PURPLEDC]

I haven't been able to put this thing down since I got it. Seriously the smoothest and most fun to play with flipper I own. The next closest flippers in smoothness and feel would be my Guardian Tactical Helix which feels plasticy and cheap overall despite the nearly $400 price tag, and the Spyderco Rubicon which is an incredible knife that flips like a dream and is crazy smooth, but suffers from a sticky lock that's hard to reach easily because there's no relief in the scale.

I've flipped it constantly since I got it Monday and it still is rock solid on lockup, no lock stick to speak of, no blade play, still perfectly centered.

Still very very impressed.

I concur. I havent put it down since i got mine.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

1. I never said who it was designed by. I have no idea. I was simply stating that it has always been made by K.John so I dont know how CKF could "give back" something that isnt theres...

Look, I don't want to turn this thread into back and forth explanations who said what and why...
You wrote this:

... First off this was always a Kevin John knive AND made by them....

I can be mistaking but I read it as this was always their design and also manufactured by KJ.
I brought up someone else's observations about Venom II having exactly the same internal stop-pin mechanism as the DAMM flipper (also almost the same blade shape), which is copy of the Slisz' knife.
My point is that Venom II and in this regard, Venom are still copies of some other designs. KJ is a company known only for manufacturing blatant copies of US designs, those two knifes are presented as their own attempt to create a successful model, but in fact are also copies, more or less remote to the two other knifes, but still copies.
My sour grapes with KJ are the fact that they cannot create a new design, they are putting together a list with what the target market likes and then combine the elements of the Venom line... If they were creating something, they would make the studs useful, they would think about the way the tritium vials should be in a well thought knife, they would round up the edge of the cut off of the lock so it'll not bite on your pocket since they are attaching clip right there and so on small details... The fact that they are releasing the knife in Russian site, who is showing it btw as Daboia and not as Venom II ( Why ?) and they don't have any name on the knife on the picture, a market who is known for the primary purchaser of KJ's copies, tells me that this is marketing trick and not much else. Yes, it was listed in another site but where it is now ? Why they don't sell it anymore there ?

Let's not get extremely excited about the technical execution of the knife, this is completely different thing than the design, I'm not surprised at all that they've done it so well, but here is another thing: This knife was originally listed in the Russian site for over $230 if I'm not mistaking, why they lowered the price ? Why KJ sells the same Strider copies that used to be $30 for $160 now ? They use the same materials, same machines and programs, why the higher price ?
Because it's still a good deal, compared to the $4-500+ originals, they are coming up with their "own" designs as Venom line so they can slowly get to justifiable higher price and in the future to be able to put their foot on the US market.

Again, don't get me wrong - the knife is outstanding, visually, mechanically and as sum of materials, I'm not against Chinese manufacturing their own designs, I'm for knife done with some sense, not for target market, for profit, that's my thing with KJ. And also, as I stated in my previous post - it's my opinion, I could be wrong... The only thing that matters is that you like your knife and I'm enjoying reading your and Lost Cosmonaut reviews, pictures and observations are great reference materials, thank you both for taking time to post it.

For me example of well made Chinese knife that is not direct copy of something else is Kizer's 4403A, mentioned by the Lost Cosmonaut. The only thing that was stopping me from purchasing it was the position of the clip but someone in another forum sent me a link with this same model, released with tip-up mounted clip so this will most likely be my firs decent Chinese design...

In regard of the tritium vials - yes, having it on your knife will help you find it in the dark. Having those done properly will help you identify the site your knife is lying on and help you grab it accordingly.
In fact, I would never carry a knife with tritium on the clip, I don't want everyone to stare in the little shiny thing that hangs from the corner of my pocket and to wonder what is it...
Again, my personal preferences, my personal opinion, just as I stated before, I'm not trashing the knife but the company and I didn't want to spread up a lot because this is not the subject of the thread...
You don't have to agree with me, and I'm not expecting to change your mind, that's why we are all different...

 

[PURPLEDC]

Look, I don't want to turn this thread into back and forth explanations who said what and why...
You wrote this:
I can be mistaking but I read it as this was always their design and also manufactured by KJ.
I brought up someone else's observations about Venom II having exactly the same internal stop-pin mechanism as the DAMM flipper (also almost the same blade shape), which is copy of the Slisz' knife.
My point is that Venom II and in this regard, Venom are still copies of some other designs. KJ is a company known only for manufacturing blatant copies of US designs, those two knifes are presented as their own attempt to create a successful model, but in fact are also copies, more or less remote to the two other knifes, but still copies.
My sour grapes with KJ are the fact that they cannot create a new design, they are putting together a list with what the target market likes and then combine the elements of the Venom line... If they were creating something, they would make the studs useful, they would think about the way the tritium vials should be in a well thought knife, they would round up the edge of the cut off of the lock so it'll not bite on your pocket since they are attaching clip right there and so on small details... The fact that they are releasing the knife in Russian site, who is showing it btw as Daboia and not as Venom II ( Why ?) and they don't have any name on the knife on the picture, a market who is known for the primary purchaser of KJ's copies, tells me that this is marketing trick and not much else. Yes, it was listed in another site but where it is now ? Why they don't sell it anymore there ?

Let's not get extremely excited about the technical execution of the knife, this is completely different thing than the design, I'm not surprised at all that they've done it so well, but here is another thing: This knife was originally listed in the Russian site for over $230 if I'm not mistaking, why they lowered the price ? Why KJ sells the same Strider copies that used to be $30 for $160 now ? They use the same materials, same machines and programs, why the higher price ?
Because it's still a good deal, compared to the $4-500+ originals, they are coming up with their "own" designs as Venom line so they can slowly get to justifiable higher price and in the future to be able to put their foot on the US market.

Again, don't get me wrong - the knife is outstanding, visually, mechanically and as sum of materials, I'm not against Chinese manufacturing their own designs, I'm for knife done with some sense, not for target market, for profit, that's my thing with KJ. And also, as I stated in my previous post - it's my opinion, I could be wrong... The only thing that matters is that you like your knife and I'm enjoying reading your and Lost Cosmonaut reviews, pictures and observations are great reference materials, thank you both for taking time to post it.

For me example of well made Chinese knife that is not direct copy of something else is Kizer's 4403A, mentioned by the Lost Cosmonaut. The only thing that was stopping me from purchasing it was the position of the clip but someone in another forum sent me a link with this same model, released with tip-up mounted clip so this will most likely be my firs decent Chinese design...

In regard of the tritium vials - yes, having it on your knife will help you find it in the dark. Having those done properly will help you identify the site your knife is lying on and help you grab it accordingly.
In fact, I would never carry a knife with tritium on the clip, I don't want everyone to stare in the little shiny thing that hangs from the corner of my pocket and to wonder what is it...
Again, my personal preferences, my personal opinion, just as I stated before, I'm not trashing the knife but the company and I didn't want to spread up a lot because this is not the subject of the thread...
You don't have to agree with me, and I'm not expecting to change your mind, that's why we are all different...

I understand exactly what you said. And all I am saying is that I dont agree with you. I dont agree that it is close to the Damm flipper nor the slisz knife. That internal stop pin has been done on MANY knives. Now Take any knife. And I mean ANY knife made in the last 10 years and give me a day and I will find knives that will have similarities to other knives. The Venom II is not a direct copy of any one knife. It borrows certain design elements from MANY different knives. I see a little shirogorov, a little hinderer, a little buck. But you know what a metric ton of other knives you probably wouldnt have a problem with are closer "clones" than this is of any one knife. You have a beef with K. John, fair enough. But I think that beef is having you see things you want to see to justify your claims rather than your claims having any serious merit. As for the design of the knife, I like it just fine. And I dont agree with you on your issues with the design. And there are PLENTY of knives costing up to 10 times more than this that have hot spots and things that raise an eyebrow. Again I think its your "issues" with this particular company not allowing your to forgive what you view as imperfections where with any other brand you might not be so critical. Now, this knife WAS sold as a Venom II for a LONG time. It was only recently dubbed the daboia for the satin and gunmetal blade. The reasons why would only be speculation.

As for your prices you are mistaken. The problem is Kevin john knives and Wild boar as well as A dai and numerous other makers with no name attached to them are sold as each other because sellers in china know kevin john has a better reputation for build quality. So i dont believe you ever saw a titanium kevin john being sold for $30. It was probably a lower quality clone being sold as a kevin john. There is a lot of lying on the chinese sites. Steel knives being sold as titanium, steels are lied about. You have to know who to buy from and what to look for. Just because someone says its a K. John doesnt mean it is. Have prices gone up slightly? yep, but so has the quality. That happens with ANY company. And the materials? They did change. K. John started with Sandvik and CB steels and is now using higher end steels. Name one company that increases build quality, materials and then LOWERS prices or keeps them the same without simplifying the product. I dont think there is any price conspiracy going on.

Again you are using this word "properly" with the tritium vials. There is no "properly" unless you are the designer and have specific goal. Either way tritium isnt going to light a room up and have you know the orientation of your knife. And there is not "standard" for which it is used in the design of a knife. What I do agree with is that we both have the right to our opinion and I appreciate that you are not trying to change my mind and likewise I am not trying to change yours. I am simply stating how I see things.

[video=youtube_share;8e0edG5uTrs]http://youtu.be/8e0edG5uTrs[/video]As much as it pains me, only because of the disdain I have for CKF, it is a great knife. I got mine today ("black" coated blade, really more of a gun metal color,not black for sure.) I too am very impressed with fit & finish, tolerances, smoothness of action & the right amount of release tension on the lock bar, a pleasure to operate one handed, opening or closing the knife...and everything else previously mentioned in this thread is accurate based on what I see on my Daboia. I did NOT buy it from CKF and will never buy anything from them directly again. I also give them no credit for the design of manufacturing of this knife. But for the money, wow. Very-nice-knife. The tritium, in reality, is pretty dim, but I guess, based on what I've read about it, that tritium is always a fairly dim source of illumination. But it's an interesting touch. Nicely done, Chinese manufacturers of this knife! Am I glad I got this one? Hell yes.
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WOWSERS. Thanks for posting the video. That looks a lot better than in pics. I love how the blade is the same color as the handle. I dont like coated blades. But I would rock that.

 

[Scrim]

My pleasure on posting the vid. I always find vids are much more informative than still pics alone. Re: the blade coating...I like it too, and I'm not crazy about black coatings (again, this Daboia coating is far from black) but I do wonder how the coating will hold up on this knife. Not sure I'll even test that by making it a user. I think I like it too much to (potentially) scuff/scratch up the blade. Maybe I'll cut a few marshmallows in half, or ripe, pre-pitted avocados. I admit it. I have stuff for "using" ...and then I have stuff for flipping and admiring and ogling. Uh-oh, looks like another possible safe queen for me.-- A couple more informative(?) opinionated vids I did (with talking!)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrN75RNVxe8 & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsrjxt1CIrk

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

...Again you are using this word "properly" with the tritium vials. There is no "properly" unless you are the designer and have specific goal. Either way tritium isnt going to light a room up and have you know the orientation of your knife...

I'm not going to touch the KJ subject at all, a company that built it's reputation copying designs all of a sudden came up with their "own", slightly borrowing elements from other knifes... Well, whatever you say...

You don't understand what I'm talking about when we're discussing the tritium vials. Designers have specific goals, of coarse...
What is the specific goal of the designers of the Venom knife, why did they placed two vials of the same color on both sites of the knife ? I like some illumination on this subject...
Nobody talks about illumination of the room and yes, when they are placed properly ( and not being both of the same color ) they will show you exactly what the orientation of the knife is.
Anyway, having tritium on your clip is maybe a good conversation starter between friends in some bar or something, but it doesn't have any practical use, especially if attracts attention on your pocket knife.

 

[PURPLEDC]

I'm not going to touch the KJ subject at all, a company that built it's reputation copying designs all of a sudden came up with their "own", slightly borrowing elements from other knifes... Well, whatever you say...

You don't understand what I'm talking about when we're discussing the tritium vials. Designers have specific goals, of coarse...
What is the specific goal of the designers of the Venom knife, why did they placed two vials of the same color on both sites of the knife ? I like some illumination on this subject...
Nobody talks about illumination of the room and yes, when they are placed properly ( and not being both of the same color ) they will show you exactly what the orientation of the knife is.
Anyway, having tritium on your clip is maybe a good conversation starter between friends in some bar or something, but it doesn't have any practical use, especially if attracts attention on your pocket knife.

1. If you arent going to touch the KJ subject "at all" then every word after that until you got to your multiple periods is you doing exactly what you said you wouldnt. Awful proud of you.

2. Whatever I say is right because its my opinion. opinions are just that and cant be disputed.

3. Your use of the word "properly" doesnt apply. Because it implies you know and understand the intentions of the designer and or maker when they decided to incorporate the tritium in the knife. And since the very next sentence you ask what the purpose was for them using it, that shows you in fact have no idea why they decided to use it which means you cant know if it was "properly" applied or not.

4. I dont know why they used the tritium because I am not them. I can tell you that MY reason for liking it is because in a dark room I can find the knife regardless of which side is laying down.

5. Because of my use of the vials, color and placement is of no concern to me, which is all I care about.

6. I dont agree with your theory of orientation in relation to the tritium.

7. I dont agree it even needs to have a function to begin with.

8. You say the stuff doesnt glow bright enough anyways so it wont draw any attention to your knife.

9. I dont care if you disagree.

10. Im done arguing with you. If you continue with this, my only response will be the following sentence. "I dont agree with you, I dont care"

 

[Lost Cosmonaut]

Agree to disagree?

I could see the tritium on the clip being a problem if you lived somewhere like the Soviet New York where you don't want to call any undue attention to any knives you have on your person. Where I live, it doesn't matter. No one cares. As long as I'm not doing anything illegal, I can carry just about anything I want. Besides, the Tritium isn't really that bright, so it's not like it's got a flashlight on it calling attention to itself.

I haven't had a hard time figuring out the orientation despite the same color on both sides. The pocket clip vial seems longer (pretty sure they are both the same size), and the one in the stud looks like an eye due to the shape of the window (a detail I love). When my other one gets back from Auston I intend to do some experimenting, since I think replacing the vials should be relatively easy.

 

[PURPLEDC]

Agree to disagree?

I could see the tritium on the clip being a problem if you lived somewhere like the Soviet New York where you don't want to call any undue attention to any knives you have on your person. Where I live, it doesn't matter. No one cares. As long as I'm not doing anything illegal, I can carry just about anything I want. Besides, the Tritium isn't really that bright, so it's not like it's got a flashlight on it calling attention to itself.

I haven't had a hard time figuring out the orientation despite the same color on both sides. The pocket clip vial seems longer (pretty sure they are both the same size), and the one in the stud looks like an eye due to the shape of the window (a detail I love). When my other one gets back from Auston I intend to do some experimenting, since I think replacing the vials should be relatively easy.

Thats cool with me, people who know me know I have no problem debating if that is what they want. Its when people say they want no part in that type of discussion yet think they are going to proceed to tell me how they think I am incorrect then duck a reply that bothers me. If someone truly doesnt want to argue then I say quit arguiing, lol.

Oh, and it turns out my vial is not cracked like I thought. I have no idea what was up but I was able to use a magnifying mirror to look at it and it seems like there was actually something on the vial and I took the tip of another knife and a clear hard substance, almost like dried superglue flaked off and nothing is actually wrong with the vial. Might be a little harder to replace if it is in fact glue. But let me know if you have any success. I might need to replace them with purple.

 

[Lost Cosmonaut]

Thats cool with me, people who know me know I have no problem debating if that is what they want. Its when people say they want no part in that type of discussion yet think they are going to proceed to tell me how they think I am incorrect then duck a reply that bothers me. If someone truly doesnt want to argue then I say quit arguiing, lol.

Oh, and it turns out my vial is not cracked like I thought. I have no idea what was up but I was able to use a magnifying mirror to look at it and it seems like there was actually something on the vial and I took the tip of another knife and a clear hard substance, almost like dried superglue flaked off and nothing is actually wrong with the vial. Might be a little harder to replace if it is in fact glue. But let me know if you have any success. I might need to replace them with purple.

They should just be epoxied in. Tritium vials are borosilicate glass, better known as "Pyrex". It should be pretty hard to crack or shatter them, borosilicate is pretty tough stuff which is exactly why they use it in this application. Vials are easy to get and don't cost very much and come in standard sizes.

I also want to see if I can embed one in the flipper somehow.

 

[PURPLEDC]

They should just be epoxied in. Tritium vials are borosilicate glass, better known as "Pyrex". It should be pretty hard to crack or shatter them, borosilicate is pretty tough stuff which is exactly why they use it in this application. Vials are easy to get and don't cost very much and come in standard sizes.

I also want to see if I can embed one in the flipper somehow.

For what "purpose"? I think if done "properly" it would look pretty cool......... Sorry couldnt resist.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

1. If you arent going to touch the KJ subject "at all" then every word after that until you got to your multiple periods is you doing exactly what you said you wouldnt...

So is Venom II KJ's own design or not ?

I'm not arguing with you, I only brought up someone else's opinion that I happened to agree with, so if you're done arguing that's fine. I would argue with someone that knows the subject he's talking about,
coming from your last post I can see that you don't agree with me but also you don't have an argument why... Maybe because you don't care.
Basically, to some extend, you're proving my guess that they put together a product for a target market: part of it - people that like shiny things on their knifes

 

[PURPLEDC]

So is Venom II KJ's own design or not ?

I'm not arguing with you, I only brought up someone else's opinion that I happened to agree with, so if you're done arguing that's fine. I would argue with someone that knows the subject he's talking about,
coming from your last post I can see that you don't agree with me but also you don't have an argument why... Maybe because you don't care.
Basically, to some extend, you're proving my guess that they put together a product for a target market: part of it - people that like shiny things on their knifes

The plural of knife is knives. And yes, you are arguing. Every time I state my opinion you have a rebuttal of why you dont think that is the case. That is an argument. IMHO yes, the design is Kevin johns. Is that alien vs predator knife similar to the damm flipper? Yeah, but even thats not a direct clone. Its heavily inspired. But for me, I dont feel there are ANY strong similarities to the daboia flipper. And I mean none. If anything I think the damm flipper looks to bridge the two knives because the damm uses the spanto type compound grind. But if you put the daboia up against the predator knife they have nothing in common except for the stop pin design. But again many many knives borrow basic operation similarities. That doesnt mean its a rip off any more than any knife with a frame lock is a rip off of a sebenza or any knife with a hidden internal stop pin is a rip off of todd begg. Again the daboia borrows design elements from many knives, but that doesnt mean its a replica or a clone of any of those knives and it doesnt mean its not a kevin john design.

A perfect example of the EXACT same thing is the original ZT 0777. Quite a few people including me feel that that design was heavily borrowed from the work of Dmitry Sinkevich. To me it looks like they had a portfolio the whole of his work up to that point and simply made a collage with a different element from each one of his knives until they had a knife they felt was their own. But if anyone told me it was designed by dmitry I would believe them its that close. But does that mean its not a ZT design? No it doesnt. The key word here is "influence". And every single maker has influences and those influences show in their work. Some more than others. Put it this way, I think the daboia is as much of a rip off of the slisz knife as the slisz is of a hundred other knives with similar styles. And taking design elements from several knives and incorporating it into your own idea is exactly what many others do every day. They simply dont have the stigma of the name "kevin john" attached to them. And I see more differences than I do any similarities. And if your point was that they put together a product for a target market you are probably right, as every single product ever created has a target market. Now, if you dont agree with my opinion, that is great but you are correct I dont care.

 

[blue_tyson]

I received one earlier this week from CKF and can only echo the positive comments. Excellent fit and finish, smooth flipping action and nice early lock up. The tritium is a bonus at this price point. Yes there are a few rough spots in terms of scale finish - but I'e had worse on customs and midtechs at much higher prices. My only initial concern was the deep cut out for the frame lock and possible over-travel that might shorten the life span of the knife. However, the steel insert on the frame lock is designed so provide an over-extension stop (as noted above) that prevents this. Quite a nifty and precise design touch. There a number of nice touches similar to this that surprised me and made me feel the knife was well worth the purchase price.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

Again...

... First off this was always a Kevin John knive AND made by them....

I never said who it was designed by. I have no idea. I was simply stating that it has always been made by K.John ...

Today:

...IMHO yes, the design is Kevin johns. Is that alien vs predator knife similar to the damm flipper?
Yeah, but even thats not a direct clone. Its heavily inspired....

(Sorry, couldn't resist...) But for me, I dont feel...

I never said Venom II is copy of Slisz' knife, I only brought up an observation of some Russians in their forums, of the "heavy inspiration" in the geometry of the two blades, the one on Venom II and DAMM flipper. Picture worth a thousand words.

My arguments are facts, yours - feelings. I'm interested to see the facts, not your guesses and feelings. I stated in the very beginning that I'm enjoying the reviews in this thread.
Pictures and observations are more factology, than your opinions on the subjects we're talking about. Let's keep it that way and leave the thread less polluted...

We both like the technical execution of the knife, but this is different subject than how much credibility KJ have when we're talking own designs.
I can't copy your review, change few words and post it in another forum just because I was "heavily inspired", it's not right.

I don't have beef with their company simply because I don't care about them and their products, my beef is probably with people like you,
who justify this with own opinions presented as facts.
"Probably" because I don't care too much about such opinions either, your elaborations on the tritium subject explains it why.

 

[PURPLEDC]

Again...

Today:

I never said Venom II is copy of Slisz' knife, I only brought up an observation of some Russians in their forums, of the "heavy inspiration" in the geometry of the two blades, the one on Venom II and DAMM flipper. Picture worth a thousand words (again the similarities are opinion based and I dont agree) .

My arguments are facts(No its actually an opinion you have not provide any facts whatsoever), yours - feelings (never said any different. I have always stated it was my opinion). I'm interested to see the facts, not your guesses (I cant provide any FACTS any more than you can, but I admit that you however dont seem to know the definitions and therefore the differences.) and feelings. I stated in the very beginning that I'm enjoying the reviews in this thread. (I dont care if you are enjoying it you are being rude)
Pictures and observations are more factology,(factology? Really? you are inventing words now to support your fiction?) than your opinions on the subjects we're talking about. Let's keep it that way and leave the thread less polluted... (there is only one person crapping up this thread. I am simply defending myself)

We both like the technical execution of the knife, but this is different subject than how much credibility KJ have when we're talking own designs.
I can't copy your review, change few words and post it in another forum just because I was "heavily inspired", it's not right. (two completely different things)

I don't have beef with their company simply because I don't care about them and their products, my beef is probably with people like you,
who justify this with own opinions presented as facts. (I have done nothing of the sort. I have always presented my opinion as an opinion in this thread which you even pointed out by saying im basing my comments on feelings. What you are doing actually being a hypocrite. You are actually accusing me of something when you are actually the one doing it. If I was presenting my opinion as fact I wouldnt have been using terms like "feelings" and "IMHO" or "I believe". The ONLY person doing as you have accused is yourself. I dont think you understand the english language enough to draw your conslusion. See, by using the word "think" in the way i did it expresses that statement as an opinion.)
"Probably" because I don't care too much about such opinions either, your elaborations on the tritium subject explains it why. (not sure what your trying to say but at this point I dont think you do either. I suggest you move on)

I will say this one last time, and it applies to everything in quotes (aside from my notes) . I DO NOT AGREE, AND I DO NOT CARE.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

I will say this one last time, and it applies to everything in quotes (aside from my notes) . I DO NOT AGREE, AND I DO NOT CARE.

Too much notes for someone that doesn't care. I did move on long time ago, I ended up in this thread following Lost Cosmonaut's review, just to discover and entertain myself with your self-centered opinions... Doing great buddy, last word is yours and I'll check the sub-forum out for your next review of some outstanding, "heavily inspired" Chinese model...

 

[PURPLEDC]

Too much notes for someone that doesn't care. I dont care about what your opinion is. I DO care that you think it should matter to me I did move on long time ago man how I wish that were the case, I ended up in this thread following Lost Cosmonaut's review Really? its my thread so you actually came into it and found HIS review added to mine, just to discover and entertain myself with your self-centered opinions... So you admit that you are doing this for your entertainment. Thats called trolling. Doing great buddy, last word is yours Something tells me this wont be the case and I'll check the sub-forum out for your next review of some outstanding, "heavily inspired" Chinese model. please dont

LOL, not surprising you didnt understand what I was saying. But when you see my next review, do me a favor and skip it. And the thing about opinions is that they usually are self centered as they are based on that individuals preferences. So I will take it as a compliment.

 

[d00mtr33]

Anyone selling one, let me know. I want one like Bill Cosby wants a young helpless girl full of GHB on bourbon. Im sorry, That's not right, but its right.