DAM funny isn't it

By admitting that you have the knife and refuse to return it without your conditions being met are you admitting to engaging in extortion or simple theft??


... ITS HERE..SO THIS TIME..IM GOING TO RESEND IT WITHOUT THE "ADULT SIGNATURE REQUIRED" LABEL... AND SIMPLY A TRACKING NUMBER.. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO SEND IT UNTILL I GET AN APOLOGY FROM YOU, AND YOU REMOVE THE WRONGFULL POST YOUVED PLACED IN THIS FORUM...
 
Goodness gracious,

Is it true that only i or a moderator can delete my post, so if I paste like this:

reply....
1. SIR,Your claims are washing pretty thin when by your own admittance THAT TWICE NOW IVE TOLD YOU THAT I HAVE YOUR BOX IN MY POSESSION, ITS RIGHT HERE ON MY DESK! IF I WAS TRYING TO KEEP YOUR KNIFE STEVE I WOULNDT ADMIT THAT ITS RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF GOD AN EVERBODY, IN CASE ANYONE DIDNT GET THAT, LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR..
ITS RIGHT HERE ON MY DESK.!!. NOW, THIS WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A
SIMPLE POSTAL CLERKS ERROR..UPON RETURING FROM THE HOSPITAL AND GOING THRU
MAIL I WOULD HAVE FOUND IT RETURNED AND PHONED YOU TO SAY HEY WHATS UP THAT YOU DIDNT SIGN FOR IT.., AND I WOULD HAVE TRYED A DIFFERNT METHOD TO GET IT TO YOU..BUT NOW..UNTILL YOU EDIT YOUR POST AND
ADMITT THAT YOU COULD HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN AND THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A POSTAL ERROR.. I WILL NOT SEND IT OUT.. IT WILL SIT RIGHT HERE ON MY DESK.. STEVE.. I AM VERY SORRY YOUR FRIEND GOT UPSET, AND
I WOULD BE PERFECTLY WILLING TO SPEAK WITH HIM, AND EXPLAIN THIS WASNT YOUR FAULT..NOR MINE, THAT HIS KNIFE IS SAFE, AND THAT YOU NEED TO RECANT YOUR REDICILOUS ACCUSATIONS..OR IT WILL SIMPLY SIT HERE TILL YOU DO..
AND TO BE FRANK WITH YOU.. AND IM SORRY IF THIS IS OFFENSIVE.. BUT YOU NOR YOU LITTLE KNIFE ARE WORTH MY REPUTATION.. IN OTHERWORDS.. YOUVE OVER VALUED YOURSELF AND IMAGINED THAT I WOULD VALUE YOU OR YOUR KNIFE ENOUGH
TO RUIN MY REPUTATION FOR GOOD WORK AND HONESTY OVER IT
BY TRYING TO KEEP IT???? STEVE, I CAN AFFORD ANY KNIFE I WANT, I DONT NEED YOURS...THIS WAS A SIMPLE
POSTAL MISTAKE STEVE... AND THAT KNIFE IS GOING TO SIT ON MY DESK UNTILL YOU ADMITT THAT YOU MAY HAVE JUMPED THE GUN AND APOLOGISE..
IF IT TAKES TILL THE COWS COME HOME.. IT WILL BE HERE ON MY DESK..ITS YOUR CALL..I APOLOGISED AND EVEN OFFERED TO BUY YOU AND YOUR WIFE DINNER..WHEN THE MISTAKE WASNT EVEN MINE...
I WOULDNT ASK IF IT WASNT THE RIGHT AND FAIR THING TO DO.. I WILL NOT MOVE FROM MY POSTION ON THIS.. YOU WERE MISTAKEN IN YOUR ACCUSATIONS SIR..NOW AMEND THEM..
JAMES LOTT
or like this:

you say this was sent over and over and returned.i have explained to you many times their is no home delivery to my house,i live in a very rural area.i'm not sure how you shipped but it was explained to you to
ship usps priorty with confirmation.i check the po box daily and if
something had been delivered i would have gotten it.i have packages come in daily and people know me their and if something would have came in they would have told me.you want me to say i'm sorry for posting in GB&U-hell no-i warned you many times it would come to that
and you are the one to make my mind up.and you say you will keep the
LUDT if i don't,well i had to pay the guy for his knife so now it's my knife,so if you want to make yourself look even worse you just do that.and again it seems you forget to mention the benchmade 42 you also have.
neither of the original posters can delete it? ;)

Gosh, how can yiterp delete the information as per J Lott's threat...
Sure am glad I scan all my USPS MOs, mailing and shipping documents etc. Three times I have emailed scanned MOs to vendors who declined Paypal even with my offer to pay 3% for convenience, with the MO arriving each time THE SAME DAY as my emailed scan. As J Leno would say, "Coincidence? I don't think so."

Simple, quick, easy and cheap way for J Lott to demonstrate for all to see that his story is 100% aboveboard is to scan the returned mail documents and post them for all to see. But that still leaves the question, what about the SECOND knife of yiterp?

All the badmouthing of postal service workers by J Lott here and in Greg Jones linked case is indeed worrisome, this from a man "holding hostage" yit's knives pending ... what exactly?

Do the right thing. We all watch, and remember. The internet's anonymity and insulation is illusory. Likewise we remember when things are set right.

nickedone

:D :D :D
 
Mr. Lott,
Perhaps you would be more comfortable providing the materials mentioned above to a judge? There is a quick and easy online form that they use for mail fraud. All that is needed is to copy all this that you have readily admitted to along with a copy of that printed form to the USPS and send it to the DA in your area for review. Did you know that ANYONE can file a complaint in ANY court of the US many times even if they are not living in that area? Sometimes the case will be reviewed even if the person filing does not plan to be present... Or perhaps one could just say they were and keep things moving along. At the very least the PO Inspector General is going to review and cause you some trouble. I've done this and they did respond rather quickly and the trouble caused was enough for someone to IMMEDIATELY send my blade to me. Possibly, with all the PC stuff that is going on with crap being sent through the mail your local DA will JUMP on this opportunity to make an example out of your ignorant ass.

If this persists I'm starting a collection on this board sent to Yiterp to finance the entry of the complaint just TO F*CK with you as you have with him! I'm sure there are plenty of gambling types or coffee drinkers who would BE VERY WILLING to donate a $20 in support of taking someone like you down a notch even if the attempt was eventually proven a failure. Hard to do? Nah, he already listed his address... He's a respected guy around here who would happily hold on to any mail like that received and then simply write a courteous "Return To Sender" if the end result was that you'd finally pulled your head out of your ass thus costing everyone only a mere .37 cents!!!!! I'm not a wealthy guy but if I thought sending someone $20 would bring a piece of sh!t like you a little heartache I'd send $50! There are plenty of people around here who both trust Yiterp and make a helluva lot more than I do... Think about that for a second you pathetic prick? How many people reading this just glanced in the direction of their checkbook? Hmmmmm????

You want to spend even MORE TIME dealing with crap like that? You've already demonstrated you are an assh*le but let's see if you're friggin' stupid too.

What a pathetic piece of sh!t you must be!

Review the above sentence as many times as needed regarding any possible future requests for an apology from me you f*cking thief!

Shawn
 
I've never heard such a bunch of horsesh*t in my life.What do you think we are here,a bunch of DumbAs*es?How can someone come up with so many stories and excuses.Darkman,I think your a compulsive liar and you actually believe the bullSh*t you spew.Give the man both his knives back,and how about you apologizing to yiterp instead. :barf:
 
thank you all for your comments.. there were some good ones and some
rediclous ones.. lets get to the crux of the complaint here..
steve said i wouldnt return his knife.. and he tried to email me..
and got no replies.. yes steve..that is correct.. i went on 4th july vacation like most people.. so you could not get a reply then, and after i returned.. there was a tree limb on the roof.. i tried to
cut it off and the chainsaw blade broke..it startled me and i jumped back from it and lost my footing, i slid off the roof and landed
badly.. only 2 days ago did the dizznesss and bad vision clear up,
and i came home from the hospital.. STEVE..YOU COULDN NOT GET AN EMAIL FROM ME , I WANSNT ABLE TO EVEN SEE CLEARLY..AND I WASNT HOME
I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. SO YOU ARE RIGHT STEVE..I DIDNT REPLY...
NOW YOU TELL ME.. DO YOU THINK THAT WHAT YOU WENT NUTTS CLAIMING
BECAUSE YOU COULDNT GET ME WAS FAIR AND RIGHT STEVE? WELL.. I DONT..
YOU WERE WRONG STEVE.. AND YOUVE NOT ONCE SAID "MABY I WAS A BIT HASTY CONSIDERING WHAT HAPPEND TO YOU JIM, AND APOLOGISED FOR IT
AFTER I TOLD YOU THAT YOUR BOX WAS SAFE AND SOUND HERE.. ITS NOT LOST OR MISPLACED..ITS SITTING RIGHT ON MY DESK." AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO CALL YOU AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS STUPID LITTLE PROBLEM IS.. IVE ALREADY FIGURED OUT THAT YOU ARE NOT AVAILABLE
FOR A SIGNATURE , YOU MUST WORK , THATS FINE.. WE COULD HAVE EASILY
JUST SENT IT NORMAL PRIORITY WITHOUT SIGNATURE REQUIREMENTS..
BUT YOU HAD TO GO CRAZY HERE.. STEVE.. IVE BEEN DOING CUSTOM WORK FOR OVER 2 YEARS.. ABSOULOUTLY NO ONE HAS EVER NOT GOTTEN THEIR KNIFE FROM ME AFTER ITS FINISHED.. WHY DO YOU THINK ID START WITH YOU? THEIRS JUST NO SENSE IN IT STEVE.. I DONT PAY ATTENTION TO
ALL THE OTHER BS COMMENTS POSTED MY THOSE THAT HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAT SHOOT OFF THEIR MOUTHS.. MOST OF THEIR COMMENTS ARE LAUGHABLE AT BEST.. IVE BEEN TALKING STRAGIGHT TO YOU HERE STEVE..
I COULD HAVE WRITTEN YOU ON EMAIL...BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE..
I TOLD YOU.. THE POST OFFICE SCREWED THIS UP.. ITS THAT SIMPLE..
YOUR KNIFE ISNT LOST.. IT ISNT MISPLACED.. ITS SITTING HERE ON MY DESK.. IF I WAS TRYING TO TAKE IT FROM YOU STEVE.. ID HAVE TO HAVE COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN THAN THAT... IVE TOLD YOU STEVE..
YOU OPIONON OF WHAT HAPPENED WAS A BIT FLAWED AS YOU HAD NO KNOWLEDGE
THAT I WAS GONE ON VACATION..OR HAD GOTTEN INJURED.. SO I EXPECTED
YOU AS A GENTELMAN TO SIMPLY SAY " IM SORRY I JUMPED THE GUN A BIT
AND ACCEPT MY APOLOGY" AND ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN OK, BUT YOU REFUSED TO.. I HAVE OFFERED
MR YETERP THAT HIS BOX WAS SAFE.. AND IT WOULD BE RESENT TO HIM..
AND I SIMPLY EXPECETED A DECENT RESPONSE FROM HIM..AS IN REMOVING HIS WRONGFULL CLAIMS.. THATS ALL ANY ONE WOULD EXPECT.. AND HE REFUESED... SOME JERK HERE SAID "DONT YOU THINK HE WOULD PUT IT BACK.." WELL.. NO ..I DONT.. I WOULNT EXPECT HIM TO CHANGE IT TPO BEGIN WITH UNLESS HE MENT IT , AND HE HAS NO REASON NOT TO.. IVE ALWAYS BEEN
NICE TO HIM.. AND STEVE.. I HAVENT MENTIONED THE OTHER KNIFE IM WORKING ON SIMPLY BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS..ITS A TOTALLY SEPERATE ISSUE.. IM DOING FILEWORK ON IT FOR YOU AND REMOVING METAL BY HAND THAT IS A ALREADY HARDENED BLADE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS QUICKLY..AS YOU INITIALLY MIS JUDGED..
AND THAT WAS YOUR MISJUDGMENT..NOT MINE.. SO I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK IT UNTILL ITS FINISHED.. WE HAD A DEAL AND I KEEP MY WORD.. NOW..
AS FOR THE REST OF YOU WHO MADE COMMENTS LIKE "MY REPUTATION IS NO GOOD NOW AND ALL THAT CRAP"... FIRST.. MY BUSINESS DOESNT DEPEND ON THIS BOARD OR THE PEOPLE ON IT.. WHEN YOU FORM YOUR OWN IDEAS AND HAVE ONLY A FEW FACTS TO DO SO..DO NOT TRY MAKE IT MY RESPONSIBILITY
FOR YOUR UNSOUND JUDGEMENTS.. I WOULD NOT DO YOU THAT WAY,
STEVE.. YOU SAID YOU PAID FOR THE KNIFE.. WHY.. I TOLD YOU CLEARLY
THAT IT WAS NOT LOST.. I TOLD YOU CLEARLY THAT IT WASNT MISPLACED,
I TOLD YOU CLEARLY THAT ALL I NEEDED TO DO WAS TRY RESENDING IT TO YOU WITHOUT THE SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT AND THEY WOULD PUT IT IN YOUR BOX..NOT HOLD IT SOMEWHERE FOR A SIGNATURE.. IF YOU WANTED TO BUY IT
AFTER KNOWING THAT IT WAS PERFECTLY SAFE.. THATS YOUR DECISION..
YOU COULD HAVE IT DAY AFTER TOMMROW IF YOU HAD JUST SAID " IM SORRY
I DIDNT KNOW YOU WERE ON 4TH JULY VACATION AND COULDNT REPLY"
IT WAS THAT SIMPLE STEVE.. all i wanted was for you to see that
no one was trying to do you wrong.. YOU FREAKED OUT , I WAS ON VACATION.. I COULNT ASNWER EMAILS, AS I DONT PAY MUCH CREEDENCE TO
ANY OF THESE COMMENTS POSTED BY PEOPLE THAT THINK SOMEONE CARES WHAT THEY SAY..AND I DONT.. I WILL DO WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT AND IF NOT A ONE OF YOU LIKE IT..I DONT GIVE A DAM, ONE GENT SAID " THE BALL IS IN MY COURT NOW".. I DIDNT READ THE REST OF YOUR POST..BUT YOUR RIGHT..YOU KNOW.. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO
DO THE RIGHT THING BECOMES MORE TIME CONSUMING THAN ITS WORTH..
THIS WHOLE AFFAIR SHOULD HAVE TAKEN ME AND STEVE 5 MINS OF TALKNING
ON THE PHONE TO FIX AND HE WOULD HAVE HAD HIS KNIFE IN THE POST
WITH NO HARD FEELINGS ON ANYONES PART , UNFORTUNALY HE WANTED TO BELIEVE THAT HES THE VICTUM OF SOME BIZZARE SCHEME.. SORRY STEVE,
IT WAS JUST CLIFF CLAVEN AND HIS MERRY BAND OF POSTAL MORONS THAT
MESSED YOUR DELIVERY UP.. I FAIL TO SEE HOW THAT MAKES ME A BAD GUY..
ESPECIALLY SINCE IVE TOLD YOU ALL ALONG.. ITS NOT LOST..I HAVE IT HERE SAFE AND SOUND, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RESENT.. WHAT PART OF THAT DONT YOU GET ????? IVE TIRED OF ALL THE BS HERE.. IM GOING TO BED.
MONDAY..IM GOING TO SEND YOUR KNIFE TO YOU REGISTERED MAIL.. YOU WILL REQURIED TO ACUTALLY APPEAR AT THE POST OFFICE AND PRESENT ID FOR IT TO PICK IT UP. BUT STEVE..I THINK THAT OTHERS WILL NOW SEE THAT YOU WERE WRONG IN YOUR CLAIMS..AS ALL ALONG.. IVE STATED OPENLY THAT I HAVE YOUR KNIFE SAFE HERE.. IVE STATED OPENLY THAT IT WAS SIMPLY RETURNED FOR NOT BEING SIGNED FOR.. HOW DAM COMPLICATED IS THAT STEVE..YOUVE MADE A CLOWN OF YOURSELF HERE WITH THIS..
I REALLY COULD CARE LESS WHAT PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD THINK.. I KNOW WHATS TRUE AND RIGHT.. GOODNIGHT..JLOTT
 
james,
i had to purchase the LUDT had no option the man wanted his knife or the money.and with my mail you don't seem to understand i
have to pick up all my mail in person all letters are in a po box and any packages are put in my hand.i have lived in this little town for 13 years and everyone knows everybody,if any packages come in with my name on it they don't even have to look at the po box number on the package they know it's for me.i recieve the most packages of anyone in this town.this is why theirs no way something comes in that i don't get.packages are signed for at the same time they are giving it to me.
 
Mr Lott;

I sincerely hope you keep your word, and send those knives out on Monday.

You may not care what we have to say here, but I can assure you of this: if we have to ban you because of your dishonesty, it will carry over to the other knife related forums, as many BFC members, myself included, are members elsewhere, and most wouldn't have a problem pointing this out to the members of the other boards.

Do the right thing, so this can end peacefully.
 
James, enough! You are so full of BS I can smell it all the way up here in Canada. You are the one that doesn't seem to understand what you are being told. You may not need this forum for your livelihood, but you can be darn sure that the influence of the people on this forum spreads much farther out into the knife community than just BladeForums.

Why do you continuously evade the questions you are being asked? You have been asked repeated about a second knife. Where is the Benchmade model 42. The way you avoid answering questions, you would make a great politician.

It absolutely amazes me how many time you have had screw ups happen when you ship things to people. These screw ups are never your fault. You must have the worst luck of anyone in the world to have had all these problems.

Then you have the gall to try to extort an apology and a retraction from Steve. What a joke. Give the man his knives back, immediately. Go to the post office Monday and ship Steve BOTH his knives and then stay the heck away from us. Someone with your obvious low regard for the members of this forum and very questionable ethics is not welcome here. Not by me at least.

If I am not mistaken a while ago you announced to the whole of BladeForums that you were leaving because Ken Cook wouldn't ban a bunch of respected BFC members because you called them trolls. I notice you have made quite a few posts since then. Another promise you have failed to keep.
 
Hey darkman, answer the questions that folks have asked. If you have indeed shipped them and they were returned, then scan or photograph the boxes with the postal marks. As Spark said, Kinkos has scanners. Pretty simple huh?

Im with Shawn, I dont make all that much money, but I will cough up 20 dollars right along with Shawns if needed.
 
Originally posted by CODE 3
You may not care what we have to say here, but I can assure you of this: if we have to ban you because of your dishonesty, it will carry over to the other knife related forums, as many BFC members, myself included, are members elsewhere, and most wouldn't have a problem pointing this out to the members of the other boards.

Mike, Darkman has already been banned at Microholics and he the only member there to ever to get the boot! I know he is banned at USN and I believe he was banned from KFC when he was giving someone there a bunch of crap. I had a terrible time getting his knife and money from a trade I made with him back in April and the thread of it can be found here on Microholics. All of the coments from Darkman appear as "Guest" with 2 posts since his username of Darkman was banned.

Go look at this thread and see for yourself if much of the same verbiage and excuses that he is giving now haven't just been recycled from before. It is always someone else's fault that James has problems, and the Post Office gets blamed the most. He also used that same reputation line on me that he is using now, from April 23:

"IF I WAS TRYING TO RIP YOU OFF GREG.. I WOULD HAVE CASHED IT ALONG TIME AGO AND HAD TO SEND YOU ANOTHER ONE...I DIDNT..YOUR GETTING YOUR ORIGINAL BACK GREG...YOUKNOW WHY...BECASUE ITS POCKET CHANGE GREG... IF YOU THINK THAT I WOULD RUIN MY REPUTATION OF HONESTY OVER YOU AND YOUR LITTLE PITTANCE.. YOU SADLY OVERESTIMATE YOUR WORTH IN MY EYES......."

And now to yiterp on July 13:

"AND IM SORRY IF THIS IS OFFENSIVE.. BUT YOU NOR YOU LITTLE KNIFE ARE WORTH MY REPUTATION.. IN OTHERWORDS.. YOUVE OVER VALUED YOURSELF AND IMAGINED THAT I WOULD VALUE YOU OR YOUR KNIFE ENOUGH TO RUIN MY REPUTATION FOR GOOD WORK AND HONESTY OVER IT BY TRYING TO KEEP IT???? "

Eventually I did get everything I was owed from James, but why put up with this kind of crap to get it? Life is just too short...
 
James,
Scan the box, and if you're telling the truth, all this will go away. Or is your reputation not worth that little bit of trouble. Without this proof, your word is pretty weak.:rolleyes:
 
Greg;

I know he was banned at the USN, and at KFC, and has had some warnings here before. I wasn't aware of the microholics ban. Thanks for the info.

I have given him until next Friday to have the knives back to yiterp, which means if he sends them out on Monday, as promised, he better second day them, so they arrive on time.

Yiterp will notify us when he has the knives, and if he doesn't have them by Friday, Mr. Lott, aka 'darkman', will be just a memory here at BFC.

This isn't a joke, Mr. Lott. Do the right thing.
 
My 2 cents on this.

First of all I am in the same boat as Steve and Ira. The PO in this town is very much like their own, and they would have handed it to me right there, hell they know when packages come to me, and they usually tell me before I ever check the box to see the slip.

As far as Steve getting a package, we have done several deals, and all of them went smooth, and no problems with the packages getting to him.

I am with CODE on this, if the packages aren't sent, MAIL FRAUD will stick. If you can scan the package showing returned, then I am sure this will clear up alot of BS.
 
If i was yiterp i would have mr Lott charged with theft and mail fruad and what ever else i could by the cops and then maybey mr Lott would smarten the phuk up i find it funny that as soon as the $hit hit the fan mr Lott is nowere to be found as far as i am concerned this says to me that he is a piece of $hit that i would never deal with

mr lott you are a piece of dog $hit that needs to be stepped on and then charged do everyone a favor send the knives and then go phuk yourself

Lee Brooks
Knifemaker
BROOKSKNIVES.canada


brooksknives@hotmail.com
 
FWIW darkman was banned long ago at USN, soon after it went up if i remember right- i know cuz i saw him in the hole for spamming i think....the tritium dots he (supposedly) installs on striders....

dude, darkman, why dont ya send the guy his property back?? ya are acting like a little baby, "give me my rattle or i wont give you your bottle back", what a jerk, i wouldnt send stuff for you to work on if i got a custom emerson LNIB just for dealing w/ya (well, maybe i would lol, if all i had to send was a BM 800, and got the CQC7 first)

but ya need to grow up, and send the man his knife back, if ya dont, i too will be happy to kick in a dollar or 3 just to help yiterp get his stuff back,

my lord, HOW do ya EVER expect ANYONE to send ya ANYTHING after this????????? if ya ever did work on knives, thats over now, imho

greg
 
The only thing that is laughable is you Mr.Lott,to actually believe we are going to buy this crap.Don't care what we think,thats fine.It's gonna be pretty hard to rip people off on Bladeforums when your A**!!is banned and exiled.Your excuses are "laughable at best" but you fool no one.This guy should be banned regardless of the outcome of this transaction,so he can harm no more.
 
yiterp= great guy



darkman: "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin" Quote from Tom Morgan(my dad)
 
If I recall correctly Darkman was banned here too. Of course if he doesn't return Yiterp's knives getting banned again will be the least of his worries, but as Code 3 already warned him we'll do that.

I've saved copies of everything he's posted here and I'm sure others have too ... he has a history of trying to cover up by editing his posts ... like a cat trying to cover up on a tile floor....
 
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