Damaged Custom Repair / Replacement timing?

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Perhaps the positive is that there's so many maker's who do excellent work, stand behind it 100% and offer excellent customer service that there's no reason to deal with the handful who don't.

Excellent post. :thumbup:

Service after the sale , is just as important as the service you get leading up to the sale and during the sale.

Very simple to do some simple research and determine levels of communication , if you can't get response from someone you are attempting to give money to , what are the chances you will get communication after your money is sent ?

Pay up front ? Only in the event you are requesting materials outside of the normal , never pay up front to pay for someone elses standard inventory.

As far as a the timeframe for replacement , that will depend on if the maker is full time , part time , or a hobbyist. 14 months is way too long. 30-90 days seems to be the norm , especially if the makers has to order the steel and send out for HT.
 
Could you please research my forum and post the 1000+ positive reviews and threads to even out the balance a little?

I hate to beat this horse, and I do not like threads which expose any maker to unwarranted personal attacks. However, since Mr. Koster has chosen to wade in and defend himself, and since there is value to this thread vis a vis education for those conducting a business, I have a question for you, Dan;

Firstly, of those 1000+ positive reviews, how many were responses to either your business method or to general after sales service?



In this industry, it appears that there are many enthusiasts willing to fly a maker's banner for them if the maker provides innovative and interesting designs and quality materials.
The number of these enthusiasts can potentially increase with the overall number of knives produced. So too, can the number of disillusioned or dissatisfied enthusiasts.
The problem is, if there is a critical mass reached with the latter group, then their effect on your business can become exponential.
This leaves the business owner/entrpreneur/knife maker constantly looking for new customers who may not have the historical knowledge that the long term patrons may have.

Although the cutlery industry seems in many ways to be growing, the high end is still a fairly small pond.

It is a real trick to grow your customer base, as a private enterprise. What is trickier is keeping the customer base you have, whilst growing it.

There is no doubt that when omelets are made, eggs get broken. The broken eggs can either be tossed aside to rot, or assimilated into the omelet, making it larger and tastier. I know that is a stupid metaphor, but I haven't yet had my coffee, and I hope that it's at least clear.

I hope that I do not sound too preachy, but as a business owner myself, I have seen all too often in my industry the exact same thing I'm seeing here.
 
Very interesting read here. I can only speak for myself, and I have had precious few returns, but when I do get a return for any reason (your fault, my fault, nobody's fault), all work stops and the return gets taken care of immediately and generally shipped back to the owner within 24 hours of receipt. That's what I would appreciate and so I feel my customer appreciates it too.

If I do get a return, it also generally means building a brand new sheath because disassembly of one of my sheaths generally means destruction. They are put together to stay that way.

I have a 100% satisfaction guarantee and the customer makes the decision, not me. This policy has yielded great dividends for me.

Paul
 
Hey guys...I'm all for having an open/frank discussion on this policy...and I appreciate the feedback, criticism and explanations. I do feel like I have learned something and sometimes seeing it 'in print' helps make it more clear.



But the OP posted this a veiled personal attack on me after posting first in my forum.

I'm AOK with discussing the question posted.....but could we close this up and start a new discussion thread?
I'm sure we have all made mistakes and don't appreciate having them drug through the mud and hung out to dry in a public arena.


Dan

p.s. Personal attacks/comments/questions/etc on me are welcome in my forum anytime..and always have been. I don't lock threads...and do my best to resolve matters amicably.
 
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this isnt a personal attack man. its calling your business ethics into question. this isnt the first I have heard of your business ethics either and I do not even follow your work. u might want to really man up and stop feeling sorry for yourself. read this thread and learn. and this thread probably is best suited for the GB&U.
 
this isnt a personal attack man. its calling your business ethics into question. this isnt the first I have heard of your business ethics either and I do not even follow your work. u might want to really man up and stop feeling sorry for yourself. read this thread and learn. and this thread probably is best suited for the GB&U.

So then why are you commenting? :confused:
 
On a positive note, Dan is here and at least communicating in this thread.

The really bad guys just disappear...
 
On a positive note, Dan is here and at least communicating in this thread.

The really bad guys just disappear...

+1

I don't necessarily agree with the way Dan does business, but, it is what it is and a great many of his customers are willing to deal with it. One thing you can count on is that he will get to you (eventually) and he has never cut and run. You might not be thrilled with the time frame and you might have to kick him in the butt a few times....but, it is like he said...it is the nature of the way he does business (runs of knives and such).

To every one that seems to be piling on. If you don't like what you hear and see here and in his forum. Don't buy from him. That is how business works. I have bought several knives from Dan.... I have wanted to wring his neck a few times too, so I typically take my business elsewhere. However, he often will offer a knife design that is so good and so well priced it seems worth the wait...... Vote with your dollars folks. Here is some simple math that rarely fails me.

wait and annoyance > value end product = don't buy

wait and annoyance < value of end product = buy
 
p.s. Personal attacks/comments/questions/etc on me are welcome in my forum anytime..and always have been. I don't lock threads...and do my best to resolve matters amicably.
I don't mean this as a personal attack, but around 4 years ago I paid in full for rehandling job, sent you the knife and since then it's with you...
At times it takes few months to reach you via email or PMs here, and believe me I really don't like, and don't feel comfortable posting on BF to reach you.
Last time I heard from you was more than month ago, you said the knife would be ready in 2-3 days.
One way or the other, you do have problem with communication, and your backlog. 4 years for handle replacement is obviously wrong.
Yes, you did apologize pretty much ever time we communicated, but after all those years I still don't have my knife back.
 
i don't mean this as a personal attack, but around 4 years ago i paid in full for rehandling job, sent you the knife and since then it's with you... at times it takes few months to reach you via email or pms here, and believe me i really don't like, and don't feel comfortable posting on bf to reach you.
Last time i heard from you was more than month ago, you said the knife would be ready in 2-3 days.
One way or the other, you do have problem with communication, and your backlog. 4 years for handle replacement is obviously wrong.
Yes, you did apologize pretty much ever time we communicated, but after all those years i still don't have my knife back.

wow!!
 
To every one that seems to be piling on. If you don't like what you hear and see here and in his forum. Don't buy from him.
No worries- there are numerous class acts on this forum to buy from so there’s no need to willingly put up with this behavior.
 
Not to jump in and start a new topic, But I am still waiting on a refund....or at least an email....from Dan. I have been very patient, and defended him for a good while, but his lack of communication and failure to make the refund makes me think that the original 1000+ positive commenters were then, and this is now.

Dan, If since you are actively following and posting in this thread, maybe I can get a response from you. Any word on when I can expect a refund?????
Stacy
 
Seems like a lot of people are not happy with Dan. Wouldn't it be much better if everyone that needs a refund post in one new thread in the exchange. Easier for Dan to know who wants a refund and then hopefully he will start handing them out.

aj
 
On a positive note, Dan is here and at least communicating in this thread.

The really bad guys just disappear...

Don, let's hope that dan continues to be one of the good guys.....

So we still have;

Gator97 - Dan has had his paid for knife for 4 YEARS to do a rehandle job

bldsmth - Paid up front for Micarta - sent info and requested his money back - No Refund.


If either of you get resolution to this let us know.
 
I've been in communication with Gator97 - I worked on his knife a few weeks back and he knows what's going on. I am doing my best. When I can get back to Tom's I'll finish them up. (should be this week)

bldsmth - I don't have an email from you. I apologize you haven't received your refund yet. Read the thread for updates, I will do it as soon as I can.



As Don stated - I am not one of the bad guys...I am here and willing to suck it up.



I am very surprised to see the thread drift here. Look at the Title of this thread. Pretty sure it doesn't say "Today is trash on Koster day - Post frenzy!!!"


Show some class, gents. Post on my forum if you want a response from me personally.

Like I said, I don't hide from my mistakes...and do the best I can to clear things up.


Dan
 
I am very surprised to see the thread drift here. Look at the Title of this thread. Pretty sure it doesn't say "Today is trash on Koster day - Post frenzy!!!"


Show some class, gents. Post on my forum if you want a response from me personally.

Like I said, I don't hide from my mistakes...and do the best I can to clear things up.


Dan


why do u want to keep everything hidden on your forum? and this isnt thread drift, this thread was started about you see post 16.
 
Actually severed it wasnt until post #22 that the OP stated what his true meaning of this thread was , which is why threads started with a generalization or generic question usually go sideways.

Sounds like Dan is working to rectify things , as far as him keeping things in his forum , that makes purfect sense. Wouldnt make sense bitching about Spyderco in the Reeves forum would it ?
 
Koster and JT are right, this thread has drifted and does not belong here. It has nothing to do with custom knives.

However, it really belongs in the GB&U and not in the Koster Forum, since it is a serious complaint that indicates a history of problems.

FWIW, a good man does the right thing when nobody is watching. This is a belief held by every religion on the planet.
 
Koster and JT are right, this thread has drifted and does not belong here. It has nothing to do with custom knives.

However, it really belongs in the GB&U and not in the Koster Forum, since it is a serious complaint that indicates a history of problems.

I agree as well. We all know the story now let's move on to more positive things. GB&U seems more appropriate.

FWIW, a good man does the right thing when nobody is watching. This is a belief held by every religion on the planet.

So true.
 
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