Darrin Sanders is a standup guy! A few WIP and Darrin's heat treat service

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Some of you may remember me asking about good places to send out for heat treat, and Darrin Sanders offered to do the heat treat for my novice blades. I'll be posting up some pics of my WIP here as I go, but I wanted to make sure I mentioned to all and sundry just how awesome a guy Darrin is.

He has been very kind, and has provided so many helpful tips for me to improve my work; he's a true resource for a novice maker/hobbyist, not just in providing an excellent service, but also in providing advice as well to help improve. I don't know any makers in my area, and it's a real godsend to have a master take a look at my work and help me identify what I need to work on, and provide tips for said improvement. And, not having the resources to do my own heat treat, it's great to have it done professionally also!

I have sent off 3 blades so far to Darrin for heat treat, and he's been great to work with. We both prefer using USPS where possible, and if anyone else is looking for a heat treat, USPS is probably easiest for Darrin, so that's what I'd go with. I actually started on my 3rd blade first when I got them back, and have been working on polishing off the scale that's left. I don't know exactly how much scale is generally left, but there wasn't a whole lot on my blades, so Darrin may have gone above and beyond on that as well. He actually also chamfered my pin holes as well, since I didn't know that needed to be done.

I haven't had a chance to get too much testing of the edge, but I banged away at a scrap piece of pine lumber, and just demolished several large cardboard boxes, and the edge is still going strong, didn't even need touching up. So the heat treat looks pretty good. The 5160 dagger actually has some nice flexibility to it as well. Anyways, here's some pictures of one of the blades; I'll add the other two as I go along. Still having trouble polishing; hand polishing is taking me a while, but good work takes time, I know.


Handles are cocobolo, hand sanded down to 1500 grit, which is the finest I have been able to find locally. Blade is 5160, 11.25" long, 18" OAL. My mother runs a jewelry shop, so I got some of those manufactured rubies from her and some silver circular beads and inlaid those over my pins. Kinda gives it some bling.

Started out like this:

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I briefly cord wrapped it to help me hold it while I refined the grind:

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I got impatient and made handles before I sent it off for heat treat:

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Here's it so far:

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Darrin is great to work with, and if you need a blade heat treated, he can handle most kinds of steel. I highly recommend his services, which are VERY reasonable, especially considering how much you get. I basically feel like he's just doing it out of the goodness of his heart, and can't imagine that he's making a profit. So, a heartfelt thank you to Darrin. I will be sending more blades his way just as soon as I get more steel (and finish these ones).
 
Thanks for the kind words Nick, but I'm far from a master. Glad you're pleased. Cocobolo is one of my fav's and those jewels set it off nicely. Can't wait to see the other ones when they're finished. Keep up the good work.
 
Yeah I met him at a semi local hammer in and he had some good tips for me and he is a real stand up guy!
 
Im going to send Darrin some steel to heat treat myself soon.When i first saw his posts and location i thought,No Way this guy is from central Los Angeles.:D
 
Im going to send Darrin some steel to heat treat myself soon.When i first saw his posts and location i thought,No Way this guy is from central Los Angeles.:D

Funny, I had the same thought up until he sent me his address. Then I realized that LA meant the state, not the city. Hoping to get on finishing the next one next week. Darn you full time job!
 
Im going to send Darrin some steel to heat treat myself soon.When i first saw his posts and location i thought,No Way this guy is from central Los Angeles.:D
I've never thought about it but I guess it does look like central Los Angeles LOL. Back when I was driving trucks for a living I spent the night in the sleeper of my rig in Compton. I heard several shots that night and having my Glock within reach wasn't all that reassuring. I did it to make sure I made my delivery time which was in the middle of rush hour the next morning. I'd never do it again and there's no way I could live there. Thanks again to you guys for the kind words.
 
Here's a few pics of my small EDC blade that I sent out. I had ground it too thin, and Darrin still managed to keep the edge from warping, as well as chamfering the holes on this knife. This one is 1095 steel, full flat ground, cocobolo handles. I am experimenting with adding texture to my handles; I like to add in finger grooves, and this time I added some texturing with a set of small files. Finished to 1500 grit; I'm very happy with how good it feels in hand. Blade is 3.5" long, balance point at the pointer finger area, added a light rice vinegar patina.

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I wanted to test the edge holding capabilities, since after all, the point of this thread is to showcase Darrin's heat treat service. I live in the city, so I resorted to going out and hacking off a few branches from a bush outside. I cut off and whittled up several before I thought to take pictures.

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It's not exactly a giant branch or anything, but it's wood, and tough and fibrous, and on the tougher end of tasks that I'd expect an EDC blade to see. Took a few whacks at the branch:

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Then I tried push cutting it in a whittling fashion:

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That dices the heck out of a branch, as it happens.

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My bush now looks quite pruned. I grabbed a piece of newsprint and tried push-cutting it. Not a problem!

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Darrin did a FINE job with these blades. They cut very well, even on tough tasks, and hold an edge better than many of my production blades. I'm quite happy with my progress, and it's nice to know that I can get tough, workable blades, just from sending off to Darrin. I can't wait to see how my larger Bowie-style knife turns out!
 
Darrin is a good guy with a great big heart. He knows what he is talking about and makes some original and classy knives too. Still smiling about that crazy Wildebeast bone handle.

If you can't get along with him, you probably don't get along with anyone...

AWL
 
OK,Lets see the wildebeast handle.I missed it.
Darrin is a good guy with a great big heart. He knows what he is talking about and makes some original and classy knives too. Still smiling about that crazy Wildebeast bone handle.

If you can't get along with him, you probably don't get along with anyone...

AWL
 
You guys are too kind (sniff sniff).:D Here's a pic of the Wildebeast bone knife. The blade is 5160 and the guard and pin are 416. The spacer is stabilized spalted maple from Mr. Jim Fray.
 

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Just got another batch back from Darrin. I don't think I finished this chef's knife well enough before I sent it out, so it's gonna take me a while to get it polished to my liking. But I put a razor edge on it, and thought I'd give it a bit of a workout. I went to town on a 2x4, and it flings chips very well. Then I took it in, and tried chopping vegetables after sterilizing it, and it did fine at that. So I took it to a chopstick from takeout the other night, and diced that too. After all that, it was still shaving sharp. That's a fine heat treat as far as I'm concerned. I didn't even touch up the edge at all. Anyways, I wanted to say thanks to Darrin again. I can't say how great it is to get to practice the shaping and designing and grinding and then get a heat treat this good, so that I can end up with a really functional blade at the end.

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Darrin is an awesome guy. I'm doing a japanese wrap on one of his knives in exchange for some heat treating. I received the blade today, and it is BEAUTIFUL. That hand rubbed finish is something else man. He's been nothing but awesome to work with. Very glad to know him, and very glad that he is on these forums.
 
Thanks guys. Nick, I'd love to see first-hand how that cleaver feels in the hand with the scales on it. It had a very ergonomic feel even without the scales. Josh, I'm not rushing by any means but I can't wait to see your handle wrapping first hand.
 
Darrin, I have a feeling I'm going to be making a few more of those cleavers for friends and family. I'll throw the scales in the package with the blade next time I send one out for heat treat so you can give it a go.

Here's a couple more from that batch, these are fighter/utilities, one handled in black canvas micarta, the other in black/green G10 with cocobolo liners.

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Yeah do that Nick. I bet those cleavers will be liked by anyone who gets one. I may have to make one or two myself.
 
Geek, I sent you a visitor mssg. If you don't get it send me an email and I'll get back with you.
 
This has been an uplifting thread, it's great to see crimsons knives turning out well, and such kindness from and to Darrin!
 
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