David Wesner - modified "Gus" model camp knife - WIP- Coop pics added!

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Greetings all.

As a general rule, time spent talking with a knifemaker is time well spent. First of all, they are by far and away mostly good people that are enjoyable to be around. Secondly, you are almost always guaranteed to learn something if you manage to open your ears. Thirdly, on occasion, opportunities can present themselves right out of the blue.

Such was the case when, some months ago, I was chatting with David Wesner about knives and handle materials and a bunch of related subjects - including his "Gus" model camp knife, which I found very much to my liking:

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We found that we both had an emerging appreciation for nice Koa wood - and it was David who tipped me off to the availability of one of the nicest boards I have seen:

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David was kind enough to take delivery of that piece for me and cut it up into generously-sized knife blocks. Which all led to the idea of maybe putting one of the blocks to use on one of his camp knives.

The project had to wait until post-Blade due to a large project scheduled for completion then (see avatar) - but we recently got back on track.

The first point of departure from the original plan was to do the blade and fittings in damascus, which Dave had been working on quite a bit in the interim. The second was that this piece would be built as a takedown.

As for tweeks to the design, Dave drew up a sketch of his basic model with hidden tang as a starting point. I find this is the most effective way for collector and maker to get on the same page (literally and figuratively) when they can't stand close enough to rub shoulders. This is the starting point:

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We traded some e-mails, bouncing ideas back and forth over some possible tweeks and alterations - some his, some mine - and went with two dimensional changes right off the bat - a slightly longer and slimmer blade. A slightly longer guard was suggested by Dave and I agreed.

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Looking at version 2 - I figured we were real close - I though that just maybe I'd want to see the point come down a touch, and also suggested that a swedge running from the tip to the commencement of the curved plunge might give the blade a faster, leaner look. I have to credit Dan Farr with that last bit, as he had mentioned that very point when I was making my own recurve camp knife.

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Dave had a visit from Aldo this weekend, and along with some good laughs (if you know Aldo, you know that's a given) and some quality steel (also a given). He's ready to get started and has kidly agreed ot share some pics of the process as it unfolds.

One small point - a miscommunication on my end in talking about overall length resulted in the handle being shortened by a 1/4" to 5" total. We're putting it back to 5 1/4" where we both feel it should be.

Roger
 
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I was at Dave's shop this weekend as well and yes... there were laughs until the sun rose. And that's not an exaggeration. I also saw the beginnings of this plan unfolding. Indeed.. some of the smudges on the drawing pictured above may be mine as I carelessly disassembled my trade musket lock on it. Sorry guys:o

I also have to mention how impressed I was with Dave's shop and incredible variety of tools and mills. A little piece of knife-making heaven in one of the most remote locations in the lower 48. Dave was a gracious host and is absolutely free with his amazing technical skill. I have no doubt Roger will get an exceptional blade... and what a piece of wood too!
 
Looks pretty fargin sweet so far. The wood, I'm not sure, gets any better. The knife design is a proven one. Should turn out sweeeeeet!
 
Looking forward to this thread. David is a superb maker and a gentleman to boot.
 
Very cool, Roger...can't wait to see the final product. That is some serious wood!

I find the design discussions great fun and try like hell to offer compelling thoughts without becoming a distraction to a makers creative flow.

It's cool to acquire a grail knife that is out there calling your name. It's even cooler to have a maker feel excited about a suggestion you make and the resulting piece has a unique twist to their design norm.

Also enjoy having the design drawings along with the knife.
 
Now those look darn sweet! I say it in almost every comment I make on another's knife, but it's where my eye goes: flow of lines. To me that is where the primary aesthetic value in a blade lies, and these designs have it in spades. Looking forward to the outcome of this. :)
 
The design looks very promising, Roger. I'll definitely be checking back regularly to see how this progreses.

BTW, that Koa board is increadible!
 
Roger,

I have no doubt that the knife will be perfect in every detail. Dave puts his heart and soul into every piece he makes. I'm sure that once he's done the knife you end up with will have a pulse! When I visit knife makers it never sises to amaze me how tuned into there craft they are. Dave's passion is over the top. I wish I could be there the first time you put it in your hand Roger. I"m grinning just thinking about it.

Aldo
 
GReat looking wood also a good design... SHould be a great package once it is finished
 
Great to see your getting a Piece from Dave, Roger. I'm diggin the Sketches and your wood choice for the Handle! Look forward to seeing this one in your hands.

I met Dave at this past blade and enjoyed Chatting with him. A fine gentleman unlike myself! :D
Dave was hoping I was making the Journey but unfortunately I had to pass.:( Maybe next time Dave!!:thumbup:

I laughed With Aldo for near 30 Hours, driving to and from blade. great times indeed!!;)
 
Thanks gents - Aldo, Scott - very cool that you were both there "at the beginning" so to speak.

I'll add pics periodically as the project unfolds. I'm really looking forward to seeing it come together also.

Roger
 
Okay - let's get this party started.

Sorting the steel for the damascus - 1084 / 15N20. Notice the clean, ready-to-rock stock:

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Stack 'em:

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Weld 'em:

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Ready for forge welding, where all will become one:

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Roger
 
Looks like this is really going to be a fun thread.
Roger, that Koa is no good. It has all those wrinkly looking things.
I am pretty sure those will never sand out.
Maybe if you get it real smooth you can paint it or something.
 
It should be noted that Dave is wearing shorts. Realizing how far North I was I figure he'll be wearing insulated Carharts and a pair of snow boots in a month. : ) Keep it rolling Buddy!:) See you in Troy!!
 
Thanks a lot for following along guys and gals, I really appreciate the interest ;)

A word regarding the sketch and the take-down aspect shown.
This detail, specifically the hinge, will be changed as we move forward with the project. You'll most likely see a technique I used in a past take-down knife build, a technique that came together in rock solid fashion.

On a side note, I've been a tad quiet the past few months. FWIW, I've still been hard at work, mostly honing my Damascus making skills and getting ready to test for my J.S. Stamp.
I've been an ABS Apprentice for nearly 3 years now and I'm ready for the performance aspect ! I plan on doing it at the 7th Mid-America Bladesmithing Symposium in Troy Ohio, this August 26th, 27th, & 28th :thumbup: Words can't begin to describe how excited I am :D

I made 2 test blades. The first was made to test here at the shop, the 2nd being the actual test knife. The first blade passed with flying colors !
I'm doing it a little different than many of the guys who've tested. Instead of using an edge quenched blade of 5160, I forged mine using 1075. I coated the back with satanite and did a full soak in my kiln and a full quench in Parks 50. I'm going to rely on the clay to do what it's supposed to do. Blade #1 was a complete success. I literally beat the crap out of blade #1.

Until I get the next set of pics in Roger's GUS Mod build ready, I hope you can share some of the excitement, and the butterfly's in my belly, by checking out these pics of my test blades.


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So there you have it ................. sorry to get sidetracked for a moment.


Now I'll get back to the business at hand, Mr. Roger Pinnocks Damascus/Koa Chopper ;)

I'm really excited about this build.

Please remember as you follow along, I still have so much to learn.

I'll do my absolute best not to disappoint.

Thanks again to all of you guys and gals !
 
David - you're well prepared for that performance test. I'll be pulling for you and I know I won't be alone. Go get 'em.

But if you keep calling me "Mr." we're going to have issues... :p

Roger
 
It should be noted that Dave is wearing shorts. Realizing how far North I was I figure he'll be wearing insulated Carharts and a pair of snow boots in a month. : ) Keep it rolling Buddy!:) See you in Troy!!

Man you know it !! Lord knows it won't be long either ............ and I'm not looking forward to it.

Aldo, I want to thank you again for everything you're doing for us guys making customs. The steel you're supplying us with is top shelf.
It's so nice to be able to start the stack without dinking around on the saw and grinder before any of the welding takes place.

And the 1075 I used for my test knives.............. BEAUTIFUL material !!

I don't know if you noticed or not, but I etched so I could get a look at the Hamon on my 2nd test knife. It was only finished to 600 grit so I'm sure it could have been even better if I'd taken it to 1500+
There was a dandy on the #1 blade too. It darn near killed me to create it and not bring it out to get a looksee ;)

Great to see your getting a Piece from Dave, Roger. I'm diggin the Sketches and your wood choice for the Handle! Look forward to seeing this one in your hands.

I met Dave at this past blade and enjoyed Chatting with him. A fine gentleman unlike myself! :D
Dave was hoping I was making the Journey but unfortunately I had to pass.:( Maybe next time Dave!!:thumbup:

I laughed With Aldo for near 30 Hours, driving to and from blade. great times indeed!!;)

Yeah, next time or else I'm coming to get you myself :grumpy: ;) :D

Thanks for following along Stabber :thumbup: I appreciate it very much !! ;)


Thanks again to everyone. Check back tomorrow for more progress pics ;)



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David - you're well prepared for that performance test. I'll be pulling for you and I know I won't be alone. Go get 'em.

But if you keep calling me "Mr." we're going to have issues... :p

Roger



Thanks Roger ............... for everything :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
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