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PappaCutter said:
What is a Bonecutter?
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The name of the model... What do you want to know?

(it is not literally made for cutting bones, although some folkloric stories claim it could.
It's also clearly stated that damage to the blade while cutting bones are not covered by the warranty)

I used mine on big birds (wings and legs) and small games. Never got a dent or a ding while using it as cleaver.
 
I believe it was bigbore who got the bonecutter (so named by Sgt Kadkha who designed it)....and our New Zealander who bought the multi-fuller....his is no large Bonecutter but he will find his Tin Chirra a plenty heavy duty compared to most knives...normally he would need step up to huge cleaver or small axe to get in its class....as with most Kukhuris of "full size", i will add....and as far as being a guy only able at moment to buy a "real" kukhuri, i think he made an excellent choice in function and it being clearly an exotic blade from the other side of the world (in his case, the far equatorial side).......Bigbore got the papa san....whatever needs removing, he is the one to call....
 
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Two BCs were sold in this thread - a 18inch and a 20inch.
A third one popped but not exactly a Bonecutter. Although the design was close enough to mention the resemblance.

As of the naming - I'm not sure about the official origin. There are couples of makers who got their versions.
 
Correcto, but the New Zealander talking of comparing his new "real" kukhuri to his heavier knives was not a purchaser of either Bonecutter......as for the name, somewhere in the old stuff is some old comment as to a question as to why the good Sgt named his knife the Bonecutter, but danged if i can find it at the moment...and i might be misremembering, but fairly sure it there somewhere.....before all the new stuff, and that was the only place, i used to about live there trying to soak it all up.....
Not the stuff i remember but here you can see the new prototype Sgt K BC being introed...and for a while he was the ONLY one permitted to make them...
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/542155-The-Bonecutter-Files?highlight=bonecutter

I see Mr Tall has below added the etymology of the word, while the knife itself named as such a knife model in its own right....
 
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PappaCutter said:
What is a Bonecutter?
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In the words of Karda,

The name "Bonecutter" is just a name for a type of Nepali Butchers khukuri. Even a Nepali butcher will tell you that you risk the edge every time you cut bone. Do you know what they do? They sharpen the dings out and keep using it until it can be used no more and they get another one. We even asked Sgt. Khadka (the one who makes most of them) about this issue. He said it should not be warranted for such use, it should just be fixed. The Bonecutter is actually a great woods blade.

Karda said:
We've already been thru this in another thread. The name "Bonecutter" is just a name for a type of Nepali Butchers khukuri. Even a Nepali butcher will tell you that you risk the edge every time you cut bone. Do you know what they do? They sharpen the dings out and keep using it until it can be used no more and they get another one. We even asked Sgt. Khadka (the one who makes most of them) about this issue. He said it should not be warranted for such use, it should just be fixed. The Bonecutter is actually a great woods blade.
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Karda said:
The "Bonecutter" was designed after a type of butchers khukuri used in the stalls at bazaars all over Nepal by Uncle and Aunties good friend, Sgt. Khadka...father of Dr. Ram whom was put thru medical school by Himalayan Imports and the forumites/friends we have here, with the special help of Steve Ferguson, whom took over the fund for Uncle when he walked west.
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The name is not exclusive but the HI design has its own roots.

And I stand corrected - I mixed Bigbore and nzedge :o
 
mtngunr said:
Not the stuff i remember but here you can see the new prototype Sgt K BC being introed...and for a while he was the ONLY one permitted to make them...
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/542155-The-Bonecutter-Files?highlight=bonecutter

I see Mr Tall has below added the etymology of the word, while the knife itself named as such a knife model in its own right....
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I saw that thread too - I think Sgt was the only one making them not because of special permissions but because he was the only one capable of making them right. I have a post from Auntie about this somewhere. The HI Bonecutter design is difficult to execute. If Purna Sankher is making them now, that means he got the talent to do them properly.
 
I believe also somewhere since it was a proprietary Sgt K idea/design and he sorta freelances, it was his baby....i do not believe anyone was allowed to make it besides him for quite some time....his connections go way back with the family and they all honored him with this as well as him able to market a highly sought model any time he wished through the company.....

And actually should have used past tense as for freelancing as last i heard the good Sgt lost his shop, (maybe same quake or some other loss), and was not making anything currently.....hope springs eternal, but i think him an independent bird and proud of it...
 
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One thing that tests and historical studies have shown is that cutting green/young bone is actually QUITE different from cutting hard, dried, or plain old bones. I can't recall the title of the book I read this in, but it surealy makes sense.
 
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snowwolf said:
Two BCs were sold in this thread - a 18inch and a 20inch.
A third one popped but not exactly a Bonecutter. Although the design was close enough to mention the resemblance.

As of the naming - I'm not sure about the official origin. There are couples of makers who got their versions.
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It is a design made by GK (Praj & Pradip), some guys with a small shop that used to sell on Bladeforums, kamis themselves. When they fell off the radar, at the request of several good folks, HI revived the design. (Recently, they seem to be back and I was able to score one of theirs...villager model...they really are the only other folks I'd buy kukris from, apart from HI.)

One may google for the "Bonecutter files", it is a thread on this forum, for some insight on their history.
 
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It is possible that even before them, Nepali butchers used it. So it might be a traditional design after all.

All I can say is that the 1inch bevel and less obtuse edge make some name it the best pound for pound chopper. Although I have no AK, but an M43, and no plans for one anytime soon at least, I could see this claim making perfect sense.

If you want a nicely polished Bonecutter, go with HI. In the mean time, I've seen the name used by other guys as well, even some I would be vary to buy from(read: I would not). The look of the blade was different, though.
 
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Yea, I care not what they call them. They are modern era "Picasso" blades. I own a beastly M43 and a finesse BAS and everything in between. I just got here and own 8-10 kuks. I used to open HI webpage and say to myself, I hope I catch a killer DOD. Now I say to myself, I hope mtgunner or Bawanna or ..... Just beat me to the DOD. LOL

NEW Zealander, congrats on your first purchase. These kuks blow away everything else I've bought. I just bought a couple of COLD STEEL sheaths. I want everyone of my bug out bags, hunting back packs etc to have the omni awesome kuk on board. I was just looking for a small safe alternative sheath for my backpack. Not to derail, but anybody use cheap alternative sheaths that are compact for packing.
 
Moonw said:
All I can say is that the 1inch bevel and less obtuse edge make some name it the best pound for pound chopper.
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With its heavy nose it is more axe than knife. It is also a relatively slow blade. People use their kuks in various conditions and for different purposes. Each designs has it's specialty.

If you are into maths and physics, this is a fantastic book http://armor.typepad.com/bastardsword/sword_dynamics.pdf
It is still interesting if you are not scientific at all, because some of the concepts are also explains in plain words. The book has weapons in minds.

The efficiency of the technique relies in the blade dynamics. Because different kukris have different weight distributions, there are also different techniques to make the best of them.

For me - best (use in Northern woods to get rid of obstacles from 1 and up to 8 inches in diameter)
#Heavy chopper - Bonecutter hands down (energy packed in mass)
#More versatile/balanced and pound for pound "best" - ASTK (energy packed in speed)
 
snowwolf said:
With its heavy nose it is more axe than knife. It is also a relatively slow blade. People use their kuks in various conditions and for different purposes. Each designs has it's specialty.

If you are into maths and physics, this is a fantastic book http://armor.typepad.com/bastardsword/sword_dynamics.pdf
It is still interesting if you are not scientific at all, because some of the concepts are also explains in plain words. The book has weapons in minds.

The efficiency of the technique relies in the blade dynamics. Because different kukris have different weight distributions, there are also different techniques to make the best of them.

For me - best (use in Northern woods to get rid of obstacles from 1 and up to 8 inches in diameter)
#Heavy chopper - Bonecutter hands down (energy packed in mass)
#More versatile/balanced and pound for pound "best" - ASTK (energy packed in speed)
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Thanks for the recommendation. I used to be a math buff, lots of it needed thru University for Computer Science. So...I do appreciate the heads-up. We'll see how my old rusty math holds up :).

The ASTK intrigues me as well.
 
Moonw said:
Thanks for the recommendation. I used to be a math buff, lots of it needed thru University for Computer Science. So...I do appreciate the heads-up. We'll see how my old rusty math holds up :).

The ASTK intrigues me as well.
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I think the ASTK is underrated. It rarely raises as a favorite. Maybe an excellent fit for me and just average for others. Who knows.

The math level itself is below university with basic arithmetic and little trigonometry (no calculus or fancy differential equations).
But the amount of science that goes is each designs is impressive. I'm no impact weapon expert but I thought I knew a little. This reading was quite humbling.
 
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All i am simply saying is Sgt K's Bonecutter was his unique take and his design of whatever origin....even the fans of earlier version from wherever admitted or complained his was not the same....as if any two handmade knives from same guy on same day are even the same.....but the Sgt had his own knife he called the Bonecutter....and a legend it is here, too.....and one made by a protege is the way to go if you admire the worthy Sgt's version....
 
mtngunr said:
All i am simply saying is Sgt K's Bonecutter was his unique take and his design of whatever origin....even the fans of earlier version from wherever admitted or complained his was not the same....as if any two handmade knives from same guy on same day are even the same.....but the Sgt had his own knife he called the Bonecutter....and a legend it is here, too.....and one made by a protege is the way to go if you admire the worthy Sgt's version....
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Ok, sorry for been argumentative (I know I can get annoying) The design was collaborative according to Karda and the legendary execution done by the Good Sgt K. I'm also extremely pleased that a talented protege is able to produce them again.
 
Indeed, his Bonecutter was always mentioned and held in high regard by everyone. When you go with such a long bevel, the heat treat becomes crucial.
 
I knew nothing of the BC before purchasing the one I did. I recognized the design for which it is, a HD chopper with inherent grace and beauty. I think it will fulfill my needs quite nicely. The added bonus has been all you fine gents sharing the back story of the design. Now, I'm even happier with my choice, albeit an impulse buy that will most probably end me up in the dog house. Since the only dog we have is a Chihuahua, this could be a problematic fit.
 
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