Dear Busse Combat Knives isent my money good enough?

[Virre87]

Hello, i dont want to start a war here or anything just ask a question, i mailed and asked about your Argonne Assult, and was told its not shipped oversea, and when thats totaly up to you wher your producs is shipped, why not tell that on the page and dont waste time for knife enthusiasts like me overseas? Also im abit curious why ther is no oversea shipping, even if i fully accept it. I realy like the Busse knives some of the best big fixed blades out ther, but this make me kinda sad.
The knife in question is totaly legal here, and even if it wasent, i got a collecting license and can kinda much import anything i want as long its not a projectile weapon.

/Viktor

 

[shqxk]

I'm also faced the same issue at the time I emailed them about my AALB order. In many country/state, knuckle or double edge blade are illegal. The company might just want to avoid any trouble in shipment which possible.

 

[Virre87]

I'm also faced the same issue at the time I emailed them about my AALB order. In many country/state, knuckle or double edge blade are illegal. The company might just want to avoid any trouble in shipment which is possible.

Well its kinda obvious that they say no when its illigal(even if i understand you) But here thats not the problem, i just want to know what it is about.

 

[shqxk]

If the company were too picky then you better find it on sale forum here, it won't take much time.

I have both model; TGLB and AALB which both available at this time, I would say I satisfied more for the TG.

Apologize me if my English suck :foot:

 

[Steven65]

Hello, i dont want to start a war here or anything just ask a question, i mailed and asked about your Argonne Assult, and was told its not shipped oversea, and when thats totaly up to you wher your producs is shipped, why not tell that on the page and dont waste time for knife enthusiasts like me overseas? Also im abit curious why ther is no oversea shipping, even if i fully accept it. I realy like the Busse knives some of the best big fixed blades out ther, but this make me kinda sad.
The knife in question is totaly legal here, and even if it wasent, i got a collecting license and can kinda much import anything i want as long its not a projectile weapon.
/Viktor

Busse have the right to impose any and all restrictions on the sale of their products to any person or place. They have taken a policy decision not to ship the AA outside the US and that is their right.

I am sorry that you were inconvenienced by having to send an e-mail but does that really warrant you coming here and complaining about nothing?

Suck it up and get over it. They are not shipping them overseas and that is that.

 

[Last Visible Canary]

What country are you in?
Was the email response that they wouldn't ship the argonne assault overseas, or to your specific country?
Did you follow up with a request for a specific reason?

I ask these questions because they are important in understanding whats going on with this problem. Without knowing the details about the response it's hard to know why the response was given.

 

[Virre87]

What country are you in?
Was the email response that they wouldn't ship the argonne assault overseas, or to your specific country?
Did you follow up with a request for a specific reason?

I ask these questions because they are important in understanding whats going on with this problem. Without knowing the details about the response it's hard to know why the response was given.

My mail:
Hello, im realy intrested in ordering a Argonne Assult LB tho i live in Sweden and im not sure how to pay, i saw this

"4. We do NOT accept overseas credit cards unless they are approved by Busse Combat. Please contact for payment options."

And now i want to know if thats only true "credit" and if i still can pay dirrectly with my Visa.

Best regards Viktor

PS: keep up the awsome work

The ansver:
I apologize, we are unable to ship the Argonne Assault to overseas locations.

Yep, that was all.

And as you can see, i live in Sweden.

 

[CR33]

Think outside the box why don't you?

 

[Jaxx]

Virre87

I would like clarification on your choice of words in your thread title.

When you say "Isent my money good enough?", you do mean to say "isn't" (is not) my money good enough, yes? You did not actually send your money at this time, correct?

I am sorry that Busse Combat can not sell and ship you an Argonne Assault LB. I'm sure that if they say that they cannot ship to certain overseas locations, then they are restricted from doing so. They don't wish to see a shipped knife seized and destroyed by a nation's Customs service any more than the customer who paid for it.

 

[Virre87]

Virre87

I would like clarification on your choice of words in your thread title.

When you say "Isent my money good enough?", you do mean to say "isn't" (is not) my money good enough, yes? You did not actually send your money at this time, correct?

I am sorry that Busse Combat can not sell and ship you an Argonne Assault LB. I'm sure that if they say that they cannot ship to certain overseas locations, then they are restricted from doing so. They don't wish to see a shipped knife seized and destroyed by a nation's Customs service any more than the customer who paid for it.

Well that would make total sence if it was anything illegal about that knife over here, but it isent, also your right, sorry for poor english, a mix of my dyslexia and non-native ​​language i guess, hope you understand

 

[Jaxx]

Well that would make total sence if it was anything illegal about that knife over here, but it isent, also your right, sorry for poor english, a mix of my dyslexia and non-native ​​language i guess, hope you understand

Thank you.

At a quick glance, it looked like "I sent" without a space between the words, so I just wanted to be sure, and to not have others who see the title make the same assumption. Please do not think that I am making fun at your grasp of our language...trust me when I say that you type much better English that I could type Swedish!! :thumbup: And I am not making fun of your dyslexia. I would not do that.
I just wanted to be sure that your post is read and understood correctly by those who read it.
I also want to add that you are not the only person who cannot receive this knife. Even here in the USA, there are a small number of states that Busse cannot ship this knife to because of these states' laws. It is a shame, but Busse Combat has to follow all laws as a legitimate business.

Welcome to the Forums! I do hope that you stay and enjoy the company of fellow knife knuts.

 

[Lennox]

Hey Virre87 if you want i can pick one up for you next time i go to the US..

 

[Gundog JYD#138]

Try the exchange. Good luck!

 

[Virre87]

Thank you.

At a quick glance, it looked like "I sent" without a space between the words, so I just wanted to be sure, and to not have others who see the title make the same assumption. Please do not think that I am making fun at your grasp of our language...trust me when I say that you type much better English that I could type Swedish!! :thumbup: And I am not making fun of your dyslexia. I would not do that.
I just wanted to be sure that your post is read and understood correctly by those who read it.
I also want to add that you are not the only person who cannot receive this knife. Even here in the USA, there are a small number of states that Busse cannot ship this knife to because of these states' laws. It is a shame, but Busse Combat has to follow all laws as a legitimate business.

Welcome to the Forums! I do hope that you stay and enjoy the company of fellow knife knuts.

Well thats what i want a answer to, its totaly logic that they dont send it wher its illigal, but its legal here, i just want to know the reason behind it, thats all

Lennox: thats nice of you, realy, have to consider that.

 

[pap11y]

I have no chance of ever owning one in Aus. If Busse sent it here it would be confiscated.

At least they are letting you know rather than taking your money for a knife that will be impounded..

 

[Last Visible Canary]

Suck it up and get over it. They are not shipping them overseas and that is that.

Think outside the box why don't you?

These are not helpful answers. "That is that" disregard the possibility of any alternative options for getting Busse to ship the knife, and it disregards the possibility that the OP is seeking a reason for why his order is being denied. Both of these are viable with further consideration and effort. "Thinking outside the box" includes asking people who have a better working knowledge of the subject so the OP can seek more creative solutions.

Chances are Busse is trying to avoid this problem, as experienced by a fellow bladeforums member:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/531870-Shipping-knives-to-Sweden

Hey Folks,

I recently tried to ship a fixed blade to Sweden through USPS and they told me that Sweden doesn't allow "Daggers, knives & weapons to be shipped to them with no exceptions".

I don't know how Busse marks their international package forms, whether they give a detailed description, a simple one or a vague one. Chances are that the Argonne Assault, because of it's model name, it's blade configuration, and it's handle configuration presents a difficult description dilemma. There sn't an honest way to describe the knife without implying that it is designed as a weapon - because it is. It is not a utility knife of any sort. If Busse were to essentially lie on an international claims form and say "camp tool" a quick x-ray would show a knife with knuckle dusters - an obvious design element to anyone who has ever dealt with 'weapons' in the postal service. As a long standing company who ships internationally on a regular basis, Busse is probably trying to avoid the potential for legal problems from the USPS or the inevitable rejection of the package due to it's description.

I could not find a specific law that would indicate that 'no knives that might be weapons can be shipped' in the USPS code. But I did find this:

http://www.fsmlaw.org/fsm/code/title39/T39_Ch02.htm

" § 228. Injurious articles as nonmailable.

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(2) The Postal Service may permit the transmission in the mails, under such rules and regulations as it shall prescribe as to preparation and packing, of any such articles which are not outwardly or of their own force dangerous or injurious to life, health, or property."

Chances are the section thats applicable here is "any such articles that are not outwardly---dangerous or injurious to life". If the article (Busse AA) is thought to be "outwardly dangerous or injurious to life" in the same way as a switchblade is perceived to be, it will be rejected under this portion of the USPS criminal law section.




Regardless of all of this, if you want to know the specific reason why Busse is avoiding international shipments for the Argonne Assault model, you should ask them for further clarification, either by email or phone call. They are going to be your best source of information.

 

[Jaxx]

LVC,

Thank you for that. My memory started to kick in over a previous situation involving knives and shipping to Sweden and that was it. I appreciate the search-fu! :thumbup:

 

[Virre87]

Haha Only knives you need a special permit to import to Sweden is Automatic knives and Balisongs / butterfly knives. Tho i know Switzerland got a law against dagger blades, guess USPS mix them up like so many Americans do(no offence to anyone, just looks like that) oh well guess i have to look for someone selling one here or something, but i guess i see the point, instead of checking the laws all over the world, they simply say no, i can understand it even if it do make me abit sad.

Oh btw, Fällkniven even make some daggers, and sell in some shops here, so no they are not illegal.

 

[Last Visible Canary]

Haha Only knives you need a special permit to import to Sweden is Automatic knives and Balisongs / butterfly knives. Tho i know Switzerland got a law against dagger blades, guess USPS mix them up like so many Americans do(no offence to anyone, just looks like that) oh well guess i have to look for someone selling one here or something, but i guess i see the point, instead of checking the laws all over the world, they simply say no, i can understand it even if it do make me abit sad.

Oh btw, Fällkniven even make some daggers, and sell in some shops here, so no they are not illegal.

The training of USPS handlers in the united states is varied from post office to post office. I had a package rejected for priority shipping because it was not one continuous cardboard box - I had cobbled it together out of two boxes and apperently there was a rule against that with priority. I then went down the street and shipped it priority with insurance at another post office. This is an example of the kind of lack of education in rules and regulations that leads to issues with knife shipments. There are those who know the law well, but they are few and far between. There are many more who would look at a knife like the AA and simply toss it back as an 'illegal weapon for shipment'.

One option, if you know anyone in the states, is to have busse ship it to a U.S. adress and then have that person ship it to you. It's frustrating to have to spend an additional 14.99$ to have it shipped to another address before shipping it to you, but it may be possible. Another frustration is that the shipping adress has to match the billing adress, so you'd potentially have to send the U.S. customer your money rather than pay direction on one of your credit cards.

 

[david tn]

Possible reason.....What if we went to war with Sweden and Busse had sold you that knife. That might change the tide of war. God bess America and God bless Busse!