Decided not to buy Sebenza, so now what?

hardheart said:
depending on your time frame, you could get on a waiting list for a Demko. Totally customizable in dimensions and materials with an awesome lock.
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+1!!!

One of the most brilliantly made and "under the radar" custom folders out there. The wait is worth it and you really will have something special.
 
cutitout said:
Each of the knives suggested have merit and each has pro and con sides. I actually am starting to think that the Sebenza might be the best choice. There are less expensive knives with more and more expensive knives with less but the CRK seems to strike a very nice balance for features and quality.
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I think that's the great appeal of the Sebenza. I've always thought of it as the decathlete of pocketknives, in that it's at or near the top of a number of categories across the board. For the past seven years or so, it's been my defininition of the ideal pocketknife, eventhough there are better knives at more specific tasks. If you were to look at a ZT or William Henry, I think most would agree both are aimed at different markets. For me, a Sebenza can hold its own against both in their given markets, eventhough it might not be better.
 
+1 on the Sage 2 recommendation for good value.
For an interesting Sebenza, check the relatively rare Insingo variant from KnifeArt. I have the small one, it is very good.
An interesting alternative at the same price level is the swiss brand Klotzli. For example the Walker 06. AT LEAST as precisely put together and nicer in finish thab a Sebenza. It is more elegant in style but capable for all normal tasks.
An interesting outsider is the Boker Titan Lightweight
 
ISKski said:
If you can wait, I would go custom/handmade - you won't regret it!
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You can get a Nice custom Alan Davis on BF. He makes an excellent custom for a Very reasonable price.

Alan has made a couple of knives for me. He can make make anything you want. You don't need to spend $400-500 with Alan for a Nice custom!

The only thing about Alan is you will buy more than 1 of his knives...............
 
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I'm not saying that what Reviewer ( Neptune ) did in his review was reasonable for determining the quality of the knives he was reviewing. I would never put any tool to any use that compares to his "wacking, stress test". And just to be clear, I am not defending Neptune. He did however make a point that I thought might be valid in saying that when you take a Sebenza apart and just look at the pieces, and do the same with any of a number of well regarded less expensive knives, the differences are not as apparent. The Seb blade is not unique in the s30v metal it uses or the Ti grips or the screws, etc.

So as a consumer, I have to wonder how a knife like CRK or some of those listed here in this thread can justify charging over $400 for a simple production folder? The obvious conclusion is that we are willing to pay that much. We who spend hours pouring over various knife forums and watch video reviews over and over and buy magazines and all kinds of gadgets that wind up in closets, drawers and garages are creating the demand that makes it possible for people to mass produce knives relatively cheaply and sell them at high prices.

Is this wrong or bad? Not at all. The demand allows expert knife makers to offer outstanding knives to those of us who measure edges in microns and nanos and use diamonds to sharpen them to have those "toys" I mean tools and make a very nice income doing it.

So after posting this I will probably go watch another review of a CRK and check out the latest Wicked Edge Sharpener video and try to figure which credit card to use to buy another knife I don't really need at a price I know is artificially inflated. What a hobby.
 
BTW it's S35V now. I liken this whole discussion to Snap-On in the tool arena. Yes it's inflated, but it makes people feel good to own it, and one of the main attractions for many is a very strong secondary market. Much more so than just about any other tool out there. It's nice knowing your hard earned dollars are somewhat of an investment.
 
cutitout said:
So after posting this I will probably go watch another review of a CRK and check out the latest Wicked Edge Sharpener video and try to figure which credit card to use to buy another knife I don't really need at a price I know is artificially inflated. What a hobby.
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Sounds like a good time to me! :thumbup:

I'm really liking this thread. I always seem to prefer the under the radar knives that offers the same quality as their expensive counterparts. Lots and lots of good recommendations in this thread. I will probably spend all day today checking them out and doing forum searches.
 
Alfaholic said:
+1!!!

One of the most brilliantly made and "under the radar" custom folders out there. The wait is worth it and you really will have something special.
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Doesn't he have a waiting list of more than a year?

I'd hardly call that "under the radar".
 
NeptuneKnives :barf: Slams ALOT of companies. He obviously has hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to abuse knives, then criticize the smallest "flaws". I'd say save back up for the CRK, then decide for yourself. If you don't like it, you can resell it for the same amount you paid.
 
cutitout said:
So after posting this I will probably go watch another review of a CRK and check out the latest Wicked Edge Sharpener video and try to figure which credit card to use to buy another knife I don't really need at a price I know is artificially inflated. What a hobby.
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Hell of a view on knife buying. If it makes ya feel like that why do you bother? Why not just stick with something you believe to be worth it?

ETA: Sincere question, not trying to be a smartass.
 
you are basing your decision on a video of someone assembling a 400$ knife by holding it into the air, not paying attention of what he is doing and talking to a webcam while working on the knife? man, some respect to a precisely made tool...please!

and he fails while assembling one of the easiest to asseble knives around, come on dudes!
baton with a folder? come on! that's stupid! not even ok in an emergency situation!
spinewhacking/table tests only damage the lockface by putting non normal pressure to the mechanics, like crashing a car into a wall and say "it's all bent"....

prying, batoning... that's all non sebbie stuff! it's a work knife or work horse but for correct knife related use, no stupid use is meant to be done with it
a strider is completely different, different size, weight, geometry

got to half the video, my stomach is upset...
my 2 cents

to the OP, buy one yourself, use it, smell it, touch it, get a feeling and THEN decide
I was skeptical 2 years ago, sold 5 knives got me a Umnumzaan and click I understood what is good about a CRK, now I have 7....
Maxx
 
LX_Emergency said:
Doesn't he have a waiting list of more than a year?

I'd hardly call that "under the radar".
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In English, "Under the Radar" in this context means low key or relatively unknown. It does not refer to time.
Perhaps I should post in Afrikaans!:)

I waited a year for mine but it was well worth it.
 
Excuse me, I had to post.

Very curious..
cutitout said:
There are less expensive knives with more and more expensive knives with less but the CRK seems to strike a very nice balance for features and quality.
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I watched the video for only a couple of minutes.. and got really annoyed because he kept on saying there aren't enough 'features'..

Now I see you wrote the same word... English is not my mother language, so its probably a ridiculous question...

But, seriously, what 'features' you actually want on your knife?

A bell?
 
To Machine26... my attempt to be humorous, sometimes humor or sarcasm doesn't play well on blogs. I'm actaully 3 IQ points smarter than I look. You might want to lighten up this is a friendly place to visit.
 
Alfaholic said:
In English, "Under the Radar" in this context means low key or relatively unknown. It does not refer to time.
Perhaps I should post in Afrikaans!:)

I waited a year for mine but it was well worth it.
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That fact that he has a long waiting list automatically means that he's known enough to have a waiting list.

He's well known enough that everytime that people on this forum ask for "a heavy duty folder" people will chime in with "Get a Demko AD-10".

Definately NOT under the radar. Same with Three Sisters Forge. They USED to be kind of under the radar, about 2 years ago.

And Yuna, 5 years ago. Now, not so much.

I understand perfectly well what "Under the Radar" means. Demko isn't that.
 
he is under the radar.
He is not a big time name compared to say hinderer, emerson strider or many others who have forums here and other places, go to knife shows and such.

this has nothing to do with his knives. they can be the best knife ever to someone. thats why we all have opinions.

Also buy the knife, dont read to much into it. if you dont like it buy a membership here and sell it. buy something else. this is how people learn what they like
 
Love my Sebs, and Umnum and soon to be 25. Do yourself a favor and get a plain large 21:thumbup: I doubt you will regret it or an Umnumzaan. You've already been thinking of it and that itch won't go away till its been scratched :D
 
Iseng,
I presume what he meant by features are the type of steel and hardware used in the blade and grips compared to other knives in the same price catagory, but a bell... Hmmm let me think about that one:rolleyes:
 
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