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Deep Carry Clips

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Lenny, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Lenny

    Lenny

    Oct 15, 1998
    It seems to me that not one of Spyderco's folders come with a deep carry clip.
    You'd think that for as popular as they are, Spyderco would offer them as standard on some models, or at least make them available for purchase from their shop. Does Sal have some philosophical reason for not offering them?
    Comments?
     
  2. sharkattacksw

    sharkattacksw

    560
    Aug 4, 2008
    Several Spydercos come with deep carry clips; the wire clip is a deep carry clip. You're referring to the traditional deep carry clip, I'm assuming. I've read that Sal decided not to go after that market (traditional deep carry) due to the number of small businesses that popped up supplying them. He felt that if he did, he might be taking away business from them. You can't get much more stand up than that. I'm sure they know that if they started offering them, they'd be a big money maker for them. However, they are choosing to let others have a piece of the knife pie. Great job Sal.

    And if I've got the story all wrong, @Sal Glesser , please correct me.
     
  3. Kreyzhorse

    Kreyzhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 15, 2013
    I read the same thing Shark.... I understand his stance, and support it, but I wish they would up date the sliver hourglass clip. It really detracts from the appeal of some of their knives in my opinion.
     
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  4. Lenny

    Lenny

    Oct 15, 1998
    That's good to hear in a way.
    That Sal is really a nice guy it seems.
     
  5. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    I wonder how nice he is during Broncos vs Cowboys football, LOL! :p:D ;)
     
  6. 500Nitro

    500Nitro Gold Member Gold Member

    29
    Jun 10, 2018
    Sal's view is a good one.

    Spyderco is in the business of making knives and does it very well.

    It also generates a lot if free publicity for Spyderco.

    An good analogy is Apple/Samsung with mobile phones and the cases/accessories that go with them.
     
  7. tueller

    tueller

    Mar 16, 2012
    Yeah but the flip side of the coin is as a consumer it would be nice to get the knife how I want it lol. Not to spend 150 on a knife and have to spend another 30 to avoid having half of it hanging out of my pocket.
     
  8. blueblur

    blueblur

    294
    Feb 25, 2009
    Aside from one model, I've never seen the need to want to change clips. I like both the wire clip and hourglass clip. I think they're designed very well as I can't remember ever catching the clip on something let alone breaking one. I can't say that with other brand knives I used to carry. I do prefer the black hourglass clip as opposed to the polished clips but I think the finish on the clip on the Gayle Bradley is the best finish they've come out with. It's ashame we don't see that clip more often.
     
  9. fatsubie

    fatsubie Gold Member Gold Member

    81
    Aug 6, 2014
    Maybe spyderco knives shouldn’t come with clips then to cut the price down. I either don’t use the clip or aftermarket clip.
     
  10. Sharp Guy

    Sharp Guy Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 6, 2016
    Problem is not everyone wants a deep carry clip. I like them on some knives but not all.
     
  11. BilboBaggins

    BilboBaggins Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 14, 2016
    For what knives?
     
  12. fatsubie

    fatsubie Gold Member Gold Member

    81
    Aug 6, 2014
    Para2. I been carried it inside my pocket with no clip.
     
  13. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    Lil lionspy comes with a deep carry clip
     
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  14. 5-by-5

    5-by-5 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 13, 2016
    The pocket clip places the knife in the optimum position to take an authoritive grip to safely deploy the blade. Deep pocket decreases grip real-estate.

    I have no use for deep pocket clips. If someone wants an unnecessary accessory they need to buy it elsewhere. :thumbsdown:
     
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  15. tueller

    tueller

    Mar 16, 2012
    Some of our disagreement is in the terminology/semantics. I agree when it comes to a lot of knives. Delicas, enduras, etc I keep factory clips on them. I have one Endura with a true deep carry clip but that is extreme and true deep carry so the cost should be on me.

    But some spyderco’s like my Manix 2xl, the factory clip leaves too much knife out of the pocket. That knife and other similar ones should come with a “deep carry clip” which really is not deep carry at all but really just holding the knife where it should be. I certainly don’t see why Spyderco can’t offer them on certain models and/or for purchase separately.

    The “wants to help small company” argument doesn’t make sense to me. Sooo should cars come with square tires so small tire companies can be successful selling round tires? It just misplaces the burden on the consumer. I am also a little bitter because I had a recent bad experience with a MXG clip.
     
  16. RipD

    RipD Gold Member Gold Member

    603
    Dec 10, 2014
    Because Spyderco has clearly decided to not get into the clip business for whatever reason. Why would be be bitter toward Spyderco for having a bad experience with another company's product?

    If you don't like the Spyderco clip and don't want to pay for an after-market clip, maybe don't buy the knife. If you don't want to upgrade the tires, don't buy a car with square tires.

    I'm guessing Spyderco would argue that every knife they sell "should" have the clip it comes with. It's a matter of opinion rather than an absolute, right?
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2018
  17. Stolenives

    Stolenives

    46
    Jul 12, 2017
    ...Yeah but look at that brouwer thy just came out with. its just a little ridiculous as the philosophy of use behind that is an everyday carry "just in case" / "good to have on you" knife. Its going to sit in the pocket more than in your palm. That's the perfect example of them prioritizing the lanyard hole which most people do not use when a clip is an option.

    And I dont know if saying maybe you shouldn't buy a knife is fair. I see both sides absolutely, but if you were looking for the perfect watch and you find it but you really hated just the clasping mechanism you'd buy the watch more than likely wouldn't you? you'd just think OK i should do something about the clasp later on, I think that she same issue here.
     
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  18. RipD

    RipD Gold Member Gold Member

    603
    Dec 10, 2014
    How is it not fair? Para 3 has a big lanyard hole that's in a bad spot relative to the where I'd like the clip to be. I will never use a lanyard. So if I want a Para 3, I can do one of the following:
    1. Not buy it.
    2. But it and get a deep carry clip.
    3. Buy it and live with it.
    4. Do 2 or 3 and complain about it after I buy it because I think it should be made differently.
    All are viable options. Number 4 makes the least sense to me. If it's not made the way I can live with, why buy it? Same with the watch. If you hate the clasp and love the watch, get a new band or bracelet for it. But you're going into it knowing you're hate the clasp, so it's a choice. It doesn't mean the original clasp was wrong or not the say it should be. It just means you prefer something different.
     
  19. tueller

    tueller

    Mar 16, 2012
    No I am not bitter towards Spyderco. I am bitter towards the aftermarket clip company. Therefore I have even more reason to wish Spyderco offered a deeper carry clip option.

    I like spyderco’s so I buy the knives. I just wish they would improve on some of the models’ clip designs. I think that is fair.

    It is certainly a matter of opinion. I believe this forum is for sharing opinions. And considering how many people purchase after market clips for their spyderco’s, it appears to be a popular opinion... maybe an opinion Spyderco should think about.

    Endura 4, Native 5, Manix 2, Para 2, etc, sooo at times feedback is listened to and adjustments are made. This is why most companies welcome honest feedback and OPINIONS.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2018
  20. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Some wire clips are deep carry and some are not. The wore clip on the techno is deep carry, the wireclip on the p’kal is not.

    Also to be fair the clip placement on the Brouwer is a little bit rediculous.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2018

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