Delica 4 zdp, time to rest?

lreed · May 1, 2016

Spydergirl88 said:
I would just buy him a new Delica he obviously gets his money's worth out of them.

I doubt he got his money's worth... I think he's using the zdp as a utility box cutter... and without proper sharpening, ZDP probably performs poorer than a cheap utility knife.

OP, next time you buy your dad a premium steel knife like zdp or s90v, pack a diamond sharpener stick together with the knife.

19-3ben · May 1, 2016

DeadboxHero said:
This is why Laminated blades are more practical

Thanks for sharing.

Not sure i understand.

The issue here is the notch on the back of the blade that catches the lock. It's worn/broken. Does blade lamination effect how likely it would be to suffer that failure?

Oh, and OP, for the record, Id get him an ESEE Izula or Izula 2. There's something very nice about a warrantee that says "no matter how you manage to break it, we'll give you a new one" when it comes to someone like your father. He is obviously hard on his knives. Get him a knife with a warrantee that backs up flat out abuse.

I used my Izula to pry an electric lug out of a outlet that was supposed to be dead, but was not. The sucker arced and electricity blew a chunk out of the blade. Sent an email to Mike Perrin explaining exactly what happened and that it was our fault. I even told him that if they don't want to cover it, i wouldn't fault them in the slightest. I had an email back that night authorizing me to send it in. I sent it to Rowen and got a brand new blade 2 weeks later. That's the kind of warrantee you want for your dad.

Spydergirl88 · May 1, 2016

lreed said:
I doubt he got his money's worth... I think he's using the zdp as a utility box cutter... and without proper sharpening, ZDP probably performs poorer than a cheap utility knife.

OP, next time you buy your dad a premium steel knife like zdp or s90v, pack a diamond sharpener stick together with the knife.

I meant VG10 not ZDP...unless like you suggest dad wants to learn how to use a sharpener for the ZDP premium steel.

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DeadboxHero · May 1, 2016

19-3ben said:
Not sure i understand.

The issue here is the notch on the back of the blade that catches the lock. It's worn/broken. Does blade lamination effect how likely it would be to suffer that failure?

Oh, and OP, for the record, Id get him an ESEE Izula or Izula 2. There's something very nice about a warrantee that says "no matter how you manage to break it, we'll give you a new one" when it comes to someone like your father. He is obviously hard on his knives. Get him a knife with a warrantee that backs up flat out abuse.

I used my Izula to pry an electric lug out of a outlet that was supposed to be dead, but was not. The sucker arced and electricity blew a chunk out of the blade. Sent an email to Mike Perrin explaining exactly what happened and that it was our fault. I even told him that if they don't want to cover it, i wouldn't fault them in the slightest. I had an email back that night authorizing me to send it in. I sent it to Rowen and got a brand new blade 2 weeks later. That's the kind of warrantee you want for your dad.

Due to corrison, laminated with stainless would prevent that.

TravisH · May 2, 2016

SpeedHoles said:
How would a few tack welds on the lockbar and tang effect the heat treat?

Should work as the lockbar/blade junction is far from the edge, especially if the edge was heat-sinked in water.

uxo2 · May 2, 2016

OP

If you must. Get him a H1 series blade. Plain edge.

And something to sharpen it other than concrete.

DocT · May 2, 2016

I suggest you buy him an Enuff fixed blade for his work and a Manbug for his pocket.

remnar · May 2, 2016

RIP-zdp!

Whatever you get to replace that knife, make sure that it's very stainless and not just kinda stainless like zdp-189.

Brock O Lee · May 2, 2016

19-3ben said:
Id get him an ESEE Izula

Agree... I'd add a Salt 1 or an ESEE 3 to that list.

AntDog · May 2, 2016

Since he always kept it open, the man needs a fixed blade. If it ain't fixed, what is it?

And hey, good on your father for actually using his knives. :thumbup: Knives with honest wear and character are much better to me than babied, kidd glove handled safe queens.

jacktrades_nbk · May 2, 2016

He said he likes that one, what is the problem, he asked? The knife has life in it, what if it's a bit shorter and doesn't lock, it can still be used.
I bought a fixed hultafors hvk for him though, although it is carbon steel, and will try to weld the delica, either to make it lockable again, or turn it into a fixed blade, as he always keeps it opened around. Will see. And will try to thin the stock left to a more easier to manage degree.
That must be the reason he doesn't sharpen it too much, and the "serrated" edge he gets from the concrete must be enough for his uses.
I did sharpened it now for him, shaves hair, but i don't think that edge will last much

Or, as suggested, will get him an H1 at some point, just to see what happens.
He has some stones around the house to sharpen it , but as i know him, he wouldn't carry one with him. He just uses the knife, and if it doesn't cut, he tries to get an edge back from whatever is lying around so he can work again with it.

Chris "Anagarika" · May 2, 2016

From the description on how he used it, a H1 Plain Edge will definitely fit the bill. It won't rust, and his sharpening using (whatever) will result better than a ZDP.

Thanks for sharing!

ToxicBot11 · May 2, 2016

Ulf Krogstad said:
God forbid someone REALLY uses their knives without remorse/babying them, granted could have taken better care of it, but it's great to see a knife have a full life cycle, don't see it much anymore, at least here.

Big difference between use and abuse..

John_0917 · May 2, 2016

Sounds like a waste of a nice knife, amazing how some people mistreat (or downright abuse like here) their tools...sharpen on cement? You have got to be kidding me.

Insipid Moniker · May 2, 2016

John_0917 said:
Sounds like a waste of a nice knife, amazing how some people mistreat (or downright abuse like here) their tools...sharpen on cement? You have got to be kidding me.

I think many of us lose sight of the fact these are tools. If it's sharp enough and gets the job done for years at a time, what's the problem?

We're afficianados here, so we buy knives for a lot more than just work, but disdaining those that don't is just silly. I'm guessing that knife has done more honest work than the majority of our collections combined. Personally, I think that's something to admire.

neffarious · May 2, 2016

Insipid Moniker said:
I think many of us lose sight of the fact these are tools. If it's sharp enough and gets the job done for years at a time, what's the problem?

We're afficianados here, so we buy knives for a lot more than just work, but disdaining those that don't is just silly. I'm guessing that knife has done more honest work than the majority of our collections combined. Personally, I think that's something to admire.

Well said.

Jabe1 · May 2, 2016

Not being a "knife guy", he used it like many people would. Knife, screwdriver, pry bar, shovel, chisel, etc.
I think it did pretty well...

Get him a D'Eskebar and show him how to sharpen it. I saw them on sale recently. Tough, safe, inexpensive.

kniferbro · May 2, 2016

Looks like that knife had a good, fulfilling life. A ranch dog of a knife, scarred and beat to hell but happy and smiling.

John_0917 · May 4, 2016

Insipid Moniker said:
I think many of us lose sight of the fact these are tools. If it's sharp enough and gets the job done for years at a time, what's the problem?

We're afficianados here, so we buy knives for a lot more than just work, but disdaining those that don't is just silly. I'm guessing that knife has done more honest work than the majority of our collections combined. Personally, I think that's something to admire.

Getting plenty of good use is great, I agree. Unfortunately, this one sounds like it was abused as much as used and as a result it's service life ended much sooner than a properly cared for tool's would have. But hey, his property and he can do with it as he pleases.

winnerone23 · May 4, 2016

John_0917 said:
Sounds like a waste of a nice knife, amazing how some people mistreat (or downright abuse like here) their tools...sharpen on cement? You have got to be kidding me.

I wouldn't say "a waste".. It apparently did it's job for a long period of time.

Abused, yeah, I can go with that..
I have a 10/99 Microtech kestrel, I saved from the first owner. Had to sharpen out, live wire ark's, from him cutting wire..
But used it daily for 7 years, in construction. But I can spydie flick it open, by the thumb stud, now..
The action was cared for, but the blade was used like the OP's dad..

Sharpen on concrete... What's wrong with that?
I've put shaving edge's on with concrete, rocks, the sides of cinder blocks, rusty metal handrails, the backs of shovels, etc.. Whatever gets the tool, back to sharp and doing its job.

After I got my SM, I gave it some edge love..

Closer Spyder, to that kind of use, is my OG Manix in Foliage Green

If you can sharpen, it doesn't matter what you use..

Hell, even with the Sharpmaker, I only use the diamond rods and strop..

Insipid Moniker said:
I think many of us lose sight of the fact these are tools. If it's sharp enough and gets the job done for years at a time, what's the problem?

We're afficianados here, so we buy knives for a lot more than just work, but disdaining those that don't is just silly. I'm guessing that knife has done more honest work than the majority of our collections combined. Personally, I think that's something to admire.

Highly agreed and well put.