Desperately need help!

Friends,

Well, tomorrow is the day of the hearing. The advice and support you all have given me has been invaluable, and all I can offer in return are my sincerest thanks. Here's hoping that reason prevails.


-Hunter


(By the way: Artfully Martial, I actually own a replica of Washington's pocket knife. I only wish that it had been among my confiscated items. That would have been perfect.)
 
Best of luck, Hunter.

Go in confident and be "wise as a serpent, harmless as a dove" and you'll do fine. If the school end up being bent on making an example out of you, so be it. Humbly apologize, stand proud and retain your dignity.

We're pulling for you.





And please, oh please, let us know how it goes.
 
I WOuld love to hear how this goes as i am also in a University and would like to see how something like this would play out. Hope that everything goes well and hoping you get off of these foolish charges.
 
Good luck. I don't like to see anyone get s*** on by THE MAN especially a fellow knife nut.Again good luck.
 
Please let us know what happened! I am very interested in this!! I hope and pray that all comes out well!!
 
Well, I got the verdict today: guilty. The sanction: loss of housing. So much for reasoning with 'em. What have I learned from all this? Hell if I know. "You can't have a knife on campus, unless it's a kitchen knife," I guess.
 
Sorry you got screwed. If you had millions of dollars, you could file a lawsuit for discriminatory enforcement since people with kitchen knives are not harassed. Then again, if you had millions of dollars you wouldn't be living in their crappy ignorant fascist commune.
 
Dang.....I feel for ya, man. But, ya know, you are in DC....land of "what guns? we ain't got not stinkin guns..."



And for the record, I once went to a cafe that was part of one of the Smithsonian buildings.....with my family as part of a field trip. We brought our lunch and wanted to sit down and eat it in the cafe (as many others were doing). We were stopped and the cooler searched. Inside, he found a butterknife (for spreading the peanut butter/jelly we brought). Wouldn't let us in with it. So, I pitched it. Let us in. Once in, I went to the food counter and asked for a knife to spread the peanut butter/jelly for our sandwiches. They gave me a metal one.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


I know that doesn't help your situation, but I can certainly commiserate with ya...


And I know what it's like to look for an apartment in DC....:( :mad:
 
THAT F***ING SUCKS!!!!!:confused: :grumpy: :mad: You should set somebody on fire as protest,you know like the monks do.:p
Seriously though that's a bum rap.If they havent distroyed your blades you should steal them back.At least the sebenza.


Hey guys and gals we should start a petition to get this guys knives back!! Failing that we should all spam his school.16,000 e-mails should get their attention.We gotta look after our own.Who's gonna watch our backs if we don't.
 
SpyderNoir_JHA said:
Well, I got the verdict today: guilty. The sanction: loss of housing. So much for reasoning with 'em. What have I learned from all this? Hell if I know. "You can't have a knife on campus, unless it's a kitchen knife," I guess.

The lesson you should learn from this is that the world is being run by fascist retards who expect you to goose step to the beat of their drums. Now move forward, get your degree and beat your own drum :D.
 
You should still talk to a lawyer or perhaps do some research. I'm not entirely sure that they have a right to permanently seize your legally-owned property, even if it's a banned item. They could certainly force you to keep it off campus though.


The news media likes stories of weapons rules being applied in a completely dumb way, i.e. zero tolerance expulsions for accidentally bringing a knife to school. Maybe you could even give some local news agencies a tip about this and point out that kitchen knives do not get seized, and pocket knives are presumed a weapon. Of course this could have the negative side effect of the fascists forcing people to eat with plastic cutlery...
 
Ryan8 said:
Of course this could have the negative side effect of the fascists forcing people to eat with plastic cutlery...
Sounds like a good idea to me!!

"...When they came for the Jews I said nothing, because I wasn't a Jew..."

This is how are rights are getting eroded: pick on a minority, such as those of use who like knives, and the rest don't care because it doesn't affect them personally.

The school's knife ban is stupid and inconsistent, as we've already pointed out. Maybe if it affected non-"knife knuts" too, they'd realize how stupid it is, and the university would be forced to adopt a more rational policy.

That was pretty much the OP's strategy to fight the charges, but since he's just one lone knut, the administration couldn't shive a git. Let's see 'em try to explain their policy to the entire student housing community! :D
 
Hearing examples of this stuid knee-jerk crap makes me really grateful I never had to live in University housing and abide by rules like the ones discussed here.

As an experiment I called up my university's office of judicial affairs and student safety and got the following information from their representative:
A 6" bread knife or cleaver is apparently not a weapon because it "has a legitimate use in a kitchen".
A Griptilian is apparently a weapon, because as it was explained to me, "it folds, so we can't allow it in University residences".
When I tried to point out this contradiction the man on the phone said that they couldn't say anything more than what was "in the book" unless they knew who I was.
 
Danzz said:
...A Griptilian is apparently a weapon, because as it was explained to me, "it folds, so we can't allow it in University residences".
When I tried to point out this contradiction the man on the phone said that they couldn't say anything more than what was "in the book" unless they knew who I was.

Sting said it best:

"...And when their eloquence escapes me
their logic ties me up and rapes me..."
 
I got the knives back yesterday. They made me promise never, ever to do anything bad again and I agreed. I'd like to say this was the University showing a shred of decency, but in fact I suspect it's far less noble. The fact is, only days ago the student newspaper ran an editorial written by a professor at our law school which said (and I paraphrase): "The school can't just take students' stuff! It's opening itself up to a massive lawsuit!" So I believe the University was just trying to save its own skin. Either way, I've got my knives back.

Throughout this ordeal, I thought that at least I would learn not to feel so naked without my knife. I realize that such a feeling is inappropriate, that a knife shouldn't be that important. But the fact is, it wasn't until I clipped that Sebenza back in my pocket that I felt like myself again. Well, everybody needs a vice.
 
Congrats on getting the knives back. Glad the "U" got their act together. Now if they could just give you your dorm back....:(
 
I can understand the university's paranoa. You are very close to (if not in) Washington, DC which is famous for very restrictive and unenforceable/unenforeced gun/knife laws. I'll bet if you were at U. Virginia they would have a different approach.
 
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