Destroying a Becker - accidental or otherwise.

I turned my 14 into a shank looking thing but then quickly fixed it. Pics when I get home.
 
I have heard the SMKW guys actually say "You can literally cut your ESEE in half with a blowtorch and send it back and they will send you a new one"

I know for a fact that ESEE actually did replace 1 blade that had been blow torched. There was a thread in their old subforum here!

they will, i believe, also call you a dumbass to your face, and ask you to never be a customer again :) so yeah, you can do it. once. after that, you're on your own.

KaBar is a bit more polite about it, but if you attempt to abuse their good will, they WILL say "good day to you sir", which means, thanks for your patronage, but well, you know, yeah, move along. politely :)

there have been many companies with liberal exchange and repair policies, but you get idjits that ruin it for the rest of us, and done is done. back in the day, you could pull a Craftsman saw from the bottom of a river, bring it in, and they'd give you a new one. too many people pulled that stunt with junkers, and abused yardsale finds for $1, and now we're at the stage where you can't do that anymore.
 
back in the day, you could pull a Craftsman saw from the bottom of a river, bring it in, and they'd give you a new one. too many people pulled that stunt with junkers, and abused yardsale finds for $1, and now we're at the stage where you can't do that anymore.[/QUOTE]

You still can at sears. Some of that shit i saw in their returns box would blow your mind. No way anyone would come up with breaking tools like that. I saw a guy bring in a 3\8" extension that was rusted down to the size of a 16 penny nail. The dude said in front of everyone how it had sat in a bucket of water since the mid eighties. Gave him a new one. Craftsman is a no bullshit warranty, no empty promise shit, you break that sumbitch you get a new one.
 
they will, i believe, also call you a dumbass to your face, and ask you to never be a customer again :) so yeah, you can do it. once. after that, you're on your own.

This is also 100% true! I have always thought it was better to be called a dumbass to your face rather than to your back! I wasn't in any way trying to diss Becker Bladlite, just stumbled blindly into a thread, now I will politely stumble out and move along! :D
 
back in the day, you could pull a Craftsman saw from the bottom of a river, bring it in, and they'd give you a new one. too many people pulled that stunt with junkers, and abused yardsale finds for $1, and now we're at the stage where you can't do that anymore.

You still can at sears. Some of that shit i saw in their returns box would blow your mind. No way anyone would come up with breaking tools like that. I saw a guy bring in a 3\8" extension that was rusted down to the size of a 16 penny nail. The dude said in front of everyone how it had sat in a bucket of water since the mid eighties. Gave him a new one. Craftsman is a no bullshit warranty, no empty promise shit, you break that sumbitch you get a new one.[/QUOTE]

hand tools yes

power tools : MAYBE once, but generally SOL i've been told. they had a LOT of people doing the full table saw swap out before they broke on power tools.

given that Craftsman has OEMs build their stuff, you might not even get the same maker from year to year... could be anyone, and any country too.

a large reason why i bought a Stihl chainsaw locally, from a shop i can literally walk to, and damn, if that's not a nice saw.
 
As several people have shown you can break ANYTHING.......Being German (mostly) and the owner of a five pond sledge hammer I am confident if man made it I can screw it up.......There have been some fun times busting Beckers......A local fire department took an old Dodge Omni apart ( video on here somewhere ) two husky firemen working together busted it at the notch on the Nader pin and then working in shifts opened that sucker up like a can of beanie weenies with what was left of the blade........A couple of Patrol Machetes blew up on hemlock knots ( I exploded a brand spanking new US made Plumb axe on a hemlock knot and the great Horace Kephart, circa 1900, specifically warns about chopping into Hemlock knots).........Throwing is the ONLY way I have broken blades( starting at about fifteen ) ...........We lost a nine a year or two ago when a guy was battong through a large piece of oak with a complex knot pattern......So, it happens but it don't happen often and you guys USE knives..........The warranty IS liberal but Tooj checks out every failure and is not above calling bullshit if he sees DELIBERATE abuse.....Tooj has been around and his postmortems are pretty damn good......It makes me real happy that he does damn few of them.........

I always feel it important to point out------If you are in an emergency situation baby every piece of gear you have including your blades....I try to show you where the edges of the envelope are so you have the confidece that comes from being able to estimate the limits.....If ya gotta bust something you are gonna use in the weeds bust it at home.....BTW the TacTul that was broken during Katrina took the COMBINED effort of over 600 lbs of energetic law enforcement......They did get the guy out........

Ethan
 
Pics promised.

Before

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After

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I saw it and from an engineering point of view, tried to determine why he did it. Both are made out of 1095, the only thing left was how the steel was treated (was it heat treated, to what temperature, how many cycles, etc?) To do that test was almost a waste of time because the "depth of the notch" was really only a factor of how thin the blade was at that cross section. In my own opinion it doesn't prove one knife is better then the other. I did think it was a good addition to this thread!

The pictures in the other link were amazing... a bk2 through a lawnmower, a refridgerator, and then with some time and skill in sharpening, the blade looked brand new! I am happy I have a Becker because I know I can push it to the limits if I needed to in an emergency and perhaps save someones life if not my own. Thanks for posting that link.
 
You Becker guys present a VERY strong case. I am finding myself becoming a convert. Oh this expensive habit of mine.
 
Is this factory or a mod? I can't find a clip point ont eh KABAR site and I'm pretty sure I'm going to need one of these. :)

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I saw it and from an engineering point of view, tried to determine why he did it. Both are made out of 1095, the only thing left was how the steel was treated (was it heat treated, to what temperature, how many cycles, etc?) To do that test was almost a waste of time because the "depth of the notch" was really only a factor of how thin the blade was at that cross section. In my own opinion it doesn't prove one knife is better then the other. I did think it was a good addition to this thread!

The pictures in the other link were amazing... a bk2 through a lawnmower, a refridgerator, and then with some time and skill in sharpening, the blade looked brand new! I am happy I have a Becker because I know I can push it to the limits if I needed to in an emergency and perhaps save someones life if not my own. Thanks for posting that link.

I agree. I can think of no reason to do that test either. However, even if I were to do that type of test there is no way I'd file a warranty claim. I do believe it likely means the Becker is going to be a better all around blade though.
 
I haven't broken a BK2, but thats the only one.

I'll he back tonight to tell the stories. I don't have pics though, most were before my digital days.

Moose
 
How many of those were broken intentionally?

All of them.

Except the BK7 I point drove in a tree and stood on. Then jumped on.

OK, maybe it was intentional.

Moose
 
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