Did a Bog Dog just go for $350?!?

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Did that bogdog on the for sale forum really sell for $350?? Good lord, that was an $88 dollar knife if memory serves.

What would a Therout Skinner go for???

Time to liquidate my older rats perhaps...

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Supply & demand is a strange thing sometimes. Have seen this happen with many collectables and commodities. It really depends how bad you "wanna" have it. That's why I get such chuckle of the big e place, half the time you can buy the exact same thing retail for less than the bidding price, some other stuff goes for pennies on the dollar. Kinda like women, don't make sense, never meant to, just enjoy while you can!
 
As W.C. Fields once said....

"Theres a Sucker born every minute" :rolleyes:

Scalping, gouging, idiotic, whatever you want to call it, when despiration forces one to spend far too much on a particular item common sense goes right out the window.
 
I saw that and almost choked! My BD cost $1 more than yours, $89+shipping.

I have gotten SHSH's for that price. Not lately for sure, but still ......

Rob
 
It was worth that to someone and as was stated supply and demand are very strange things sometimes. The terms like "scalping" and "gouging" don't really fit due to this being a "luxury" item and not a day to day necessity. IMHO the price was certainly way too high, but someone bought it so................ :rolleyes: For me I appreciate the extreme value for the money that these blades offer not only in materials/worksmenship but also customer service. :thumbup:
 
yes but the problem is that once a moron buys that knife, sellers will see that there are enough morons out there to buy theirs for that price and pretty soon ALL BD's will be that price. THAT'S my gripe.

once SOMEONE does it and "succeeds" then we ALL will do it. all it takes is ONE seller to "price gouge" and ONE desperate buyer to buy it and then THAT price becomes the new going rate. yeah i get the whole "if it's too expensive don't buy it" BUT that's a bunch of BS IMO. what happens in reality is that other sellers who want to sell the very same item will NOT sell the item much cheaper than that of the original price gouger. so in essence we will soon never see a BD sell for say 100 ever again, when we all know there's an idiot out there willing to pay 400 for it. so these transactions DO affect the everyday buyer. it DOES affect the community as a whole. it's NOT a one time thing. it SETS THE STANDARD in pricing. and that's my gripe.

as a businessman a $350 BD is genius, as a knife knut im appalled!
 
Tahnkfully, all of my knives are intended "users" so I don't think I'll ever be THAT desperate for a certain knife. Taht's just a SICK price to me. I've caught some Busse/SRKW deals in the recent past and am SHOCKED at what some pay for the same item sometimes.
 
From the seller's perspective, there is a balance between being greedy (raping someone on price) and selling something for a price that you are satisfied with. If you are greedy, then you take the chance that the knife may not sell. You take a chance that the buyer will get smart before you get $ and then you'll be starting over. You also may get a reputation as someone who tends to ask a high initial price. To me, if someone wants to put themselves in that position, then that is fine. I tend to basically ignore these people. Ultmately, when it comes time to sell, I will sell for what I want to get out of the knife, which will probably be less, far less in fact, than the gouger. That just assures me that my knife will be flying out the door. It takes a little leg-work, but figuring out who the gouger's are is not that hard. They are the ones who repeatedly have stuff available for sale for long periods of time. Rarely are they selling something that is undesirable; often, the asking price is just out of line for many.

From the buyer's perspective however, when you need/want it, then you have to temper that with patience. There is a price to pay for being impatient, and for not taking the time to do a little research. That literally is about all it takes, but if you don't have those things, then you don't.

Fortunately, most of us are limited by common sense or wallets that have only so much cash in them. And that IS a good thing. Those of us who are not limited by commonsense or $ often have a harder time finding what really makes them happy, and often enjoy what they have less, IMO.

Hopefully, this will not offend anyone as that was/is not my intent. But if you must, flame away. I am secure in my position.:thumbup:
 
Pretty sure the BD was ment to be an $80 dollar knife. Mine has a good case of pitting and rust from hard use on a fishing boat. Guess it goes to show why they had to start Scrap yard knives. SRKW was supposed to be the low cost Busse alternative. Was nice while it lasted. Oh well..... Anyone want to buy a beat up battle rat for $2000?
 
cleaner145 said:
It was worth that to someone and as was stated supply and demand are very strange things sometimes. The terms like "scalping" and "gouging" don't really fit due to this being a "luxury" item and not a day to day necessity. IMHO the price was certainly way too high, but someone bought it so................ :rolleyes: For me I appreciate the extreme value for the money that these blades offer not only in materials/worksmenship but also customer service. :thumbup:
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I was using the term scalping as what one does when standing outside a sold out event selling 50.00 tickets for 200.00, selling a 90.00 knife for 350.00 because its not available commercially is essentially the same thing. Gouging is what a seller does when there is no competiton for the product so the price can be set at will. The definition of a luxury and a necessity is a relative term, while I view my coffee as a necessity, some would see it as a luxury as its getting rather expensive. One might see an automobile as a necessity, when a bicycle would serve the need for transportation.
 
This very topic was discussed at great lenght over on the Busse forum a couple of weeks ago finally being locked down by Jerry. Once again I completely agree the price was way too high but I will let it rest.
 
The reason for closing that thread was it got rather nasty and off topic. I think this needs to be discussed as its a hot topic and it would be good to talk it out and let everyone air their opinion.

I was just curious about your definition of scalper as I've mainly heard it associated with extravagances like concert and show tickets.

Gouging tends to be used in a more general theme, ie the gas situation and involves a group who have an item in high demand and decide as a group to overcharge knowing that the consumer will have to purchase.

Supply vs demand has been discussed here as well, but its not really relavent as the product is no longer produced. To truly take advantage of the supply/demand theory the seller has to have control of a share of the market big enough to control its flow, keeping it low to raise demand and thus be able to command his price. Its a lot more complicated than that, uber simplified here.

Again, as long as it remains civil, lets talk this out! Dont go away. :confused: I promise I wont get too nasty, economics was a favorite subject of mine in college. :D
 
Anyone want a hard to find Leatherman sheath? I hear the wait on these can be up to 6-12 months, yours for only $250.






Hehe J/k
 
It's true that now that the cat is out of the bag that no one will be willing to sell their BD for less than 300.

The Bog Dog as a user is dead...LONG LIVE THE BOG DOG!:D

Because lets face it, a 350 dollar Bog Dog is just a collectable.
 
My BD D-2 will always be a user. It's my backpacking knife. I have other Rats I would be willing to part with, but the BD is near perfect.
 
If anyone wanted one of the new Howlers with the serrated spine available at Blade West or the Ganza, you could have picked it up over at KF for $100 above retail BEFORE Blade West even closed. I have a hard time believing that the original buyer of that knife bought it and intended to keep it.
 
There are knives made to be users.

There are knives made to be collectables.

There are users that have become collectable for whatever reason.

Can't fault the guy that is lucky enough to have some of the latter and takes advantage of it.
 
I have a Busse that I would not sell at a price below twice what I paid for it, because it is worth that to me to keep it. I would be foolish to sell it for less than the intrinsic and extrinsic value I derive from it. The only exception to this would be if I needed funds quickly in a bad way and it was absolutely necessary to move it. Then the price would go lower. If I ever post it for sale and someone thinks that the price is too high, then they will not buy it and I will be happy to keep it. If someone does choose to buy it, I assume that it is worth it to that individual.

If one Bog Dog sells for $350, that does not mean that I ever have to pay that for one, as I will happily do without one at that price. If other sellers look at this one sale and price their knives accordingly, no one is forced to buy them. The price will either come down or the seller will choose to keep it.

Over time, supply and demand will find the proper price level, if left to it's own devices.

To me, the most effective way to find the proper price level is for the seller to price initially at what he ideally wants, and then to reduce the price in increments over time until he hits a price below which he is unwilling to go. This way, the person who wants it the most will end up with it and the seller will be content.

Incidentally, this is all academic for me at this point, as I have never sold a Busse.:D
 
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