Did a Bog Dog just go for $350?!?

gimmejr said:
Anyway arent you supposed to be at Disneyworld or something?
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Leaving tomorrow at 8:30 am, after that I am fair game as I will only have the wife's Treo to write on and wont be able to write these rambling nonsensical posts. :D

actually, if I'd bought a few each of these popular blades with intention of re-selling later...................... I probably wouldnt be so bitter. :o BUT, I'm not in it for the money, now sheathmaking, THAT I'm in it for the money!! :) So, that said, starting one day after we get back (central standard time) I will be tripling prices, and doubling the wait time. :eek: From this point on I will be referred to as the Sheathnazzi, cross me and it will be "NO LEATHER, ONE YEAR!!!!!!" :p 'course my wait will be two years so I guess its moot. :o new tag line! "NO LEATHER TEN YEARS!!!!!" ah yes, thats better.
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I think it is humorous that everyone throws around terms like supply and demand. It is not relevant here -- supply and demand assume perfect knowledge on the part of the seller and buyer. That does not exist in the real world, sorry.

What it comes down to is this in a nutshell-- Is there a sucker who can be taken advantage of by someone who is willing to take advantage of said sucker? Yes, there are always people out there who don't care if they are taken advantage of. But in the end, this is not about the buyer, is it? It is also not about the price, or even the item being sold.

It is about a seller willing to take advantage of another human being for no reason other than to better his own position. In my eyes, we already have enough of this in the world without patting an unscrupulous seller on the back about him being a business genious. He is no genious, and maybe next time, he'll be there to take advantage of you or someone you care about. No, he is an ass, and a big one at that.
 
I will respectfully disagree with on_the_edge.

I wouldn't say that the buyer is a sucker. Nor would I say the seller is taking advantage.

The seller said that he would be willing to sell his BD for 350.

The buyer said he would be willing to pay that price.

Done deal and everyone is happy....except for a lot of people on this thread...

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The seller did not take advantage of anyone. He didn't hold out on food or medicine till he got what he wanted. He sold a knife...a collectable knife for a price that seemed fair to him and to the buyer...what's the problem?
 
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Paddling_man said:
G19G26 said:
Even though I wouldn't take $500 for my Desert Camo RW.
The above prices are a feeble attempt at a joke, except about my Desert Camo. That one is VERY serious.
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, demonstrates a lovely point: why prices go high on the secondary market. At least in my case that is true: a great knife that you love but and don't intend to sell but, for the right price, someone else just bought a new blade.

So, G19G26... would you take $750 for that Desert Camo RW? Kidding, only kidding. Actual solications should not take place on this subforum.
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There are a couple of items on the Exchange right now that I would love to have... I think they are "overpriced." "Overpriced," in this case, only means it is more than I'm willing to pay for, say, a Satin/BlkMag HOGFSH. It may NOT be overpriced for another buyer. The seller certainly doesn't owe it to me to price it lower just because it is more than I would be willing to spend.
 
leatherman said:
cross me and it will be "NO LEATHER, ONE YEAR!!!!!!" :p 'course my wait will be two years so I guess its moot. :o new tag line! "NO LEATHER TEN YEARS!!!!!" ah yes, thats better.
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Be careful, LeatherBender, or you'll find you're having nightmares of being in a kydex hell! ;)

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Heavy said:
I will respectfully disagree with on_the_edge.

I wouldn't say that the buyer is a sucker. Nor would I say the seller is taking advantage.

The seller said that he would be willing to sell his BD for 350.

The buyer said he would be willing to pay that price.

Done deal and everyone is happy....except for a lot of people on this thread...

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The seller did not take advantage of anyone. He didn't hold out on food or medicine till he got what he wanted. He sold a knife...a collectable knife for a price that seemed fair to him and to the buyer...what's the problem?
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What Heavy said :thumbup:
 
Paddling_man said:
Be careful, LeatherBender, or you'll find you're having nightmares of being in a kydex hell! ;)

~The Cow of Christmas Past
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Now THAT is the best post of the year!!!!! :cool: :thumbup:
 
There are a lot of knives sold here that are marked up well beyond what I am willing to pay. I don't feel either party is wrong, although I think some of the buyers may be misguided to pay what they do for some knives. There are two real nice ones for sale that aren't moving, and I am tempted to offer the original list price, but apparently around here certain knives only increase in value.;) I wish I could get everything I own to do that.:D
 
leatherman said:
The reason for closing that thread was it got rather nasty and off topic. I think this needs to be discussed as its a hot topic and it would be good to talk it out and let everyone air their opinion.

I was just curious about your definition of scalper as I've mainly heard it associated with extravagances like concert and show tickets.

Gouging tends to be used in a more general theme, ie the gas situation and involves a group who have an item in high demand and decide as a group to overcharge knowing that the consumer will have to purchase.

Supply vs demand has been discussed here as well, but its not really relavent as the product is no longer produced. To truly take advantage of the supply/demand theory the seller has to have control of a share of the market big enough to control its flow, keeping it low to raise demand and thus be able to command his price. Its a lot more complicated than that, uber simplified here.

Again, as long as it remains civil, lets talk this out! Dont go away. :confused: I promise I wont get too nasty, economics was a favorite subject of mine in college. :D
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I have two very varyied opinions on what I consider a two part topic. Since I only buy knives and have never sold here or elsewhere I obviously benefit from a lower purchase price. I also agree with what Jerry posted in his explanation upon closing the thread about his goals and pricing policy.

The issue then arises however of how to fairly regulate individual sellers and/or should it be done at all. These are all paying members who support this site selling their own individual property. Even if you could somehow regulate this site, there are numerous others as well as that auction site that is totally beyond control.

As I see it the only thing that can regulate this situation is the market itself. Common sense has to come into play here, and that can't be regulated. As for that BD I don't personally own one yet and would sure like too. But I sure as heck would not have paid 350 for that privilege. :D
 
Was there a steady escalation of BogDog prices over a the last year or did they suddenly jump to this realm beacuse of an outrageous ebay auction or something?

A jump from $150 (or whatever they've been going for) to $350 just seems odd.

Anybody else think something fishy might be goin on here? (ie. no BD actually changed hands at this amount...)
 
goke said:
Was there a steady escalation of BogDog prices over a the last year or did they suddenly jump to this realm beacuse of an outrageous ebay auction or something?

A jump from $150 (or whatever they've been going for) to $350 just seems odd.

Anybody else think something fishy might be goin on here? (ie. no BD actually changed hands at this amount...)
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I haven't followed the BD that much, but have seen some dramatic increases in the INFI-Coot... Not that much tho....
 
Heavy said:
I will respectfully disagree with on_the_edge.

I wouldn't say that the buyer is a sucker. Nor would I say the seller is taking advantage.

The seller said that he would be willing to sell his BD for 350.

The buyer said he would be willing to pay that price.

Done deal and everyone is happy....except for a lot of people on this thread...

:confused:


The seller did not take advantage of anyone. He didn't hold out on food or medicine till he got what he wanted. He sold a knife...a collectable knife for a price that seemed fair to him and to the buyer...what's the problem?
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Heavy REALLY does state it very well IMHO


The buyer isn't a sucker, just because he has enough disposable income to be able to afford what the seller is selling.

Is Donald Trump a sucker because he can afford to spend a few thousand dollars on a meal at an "over priced" restaurant? Maybe not the best analogy but some people, if they want something, will always pay what it costs. Some won’t.

I have friends who wouldn’t spend more then $10 on a knife because to them, it’s just a tool to cut. That’s all.
They can’t believe my den walls when they see my collection of knives on it. They ask me, “why do you need so many”. I just smile and say “because to me, a well made knife is a thing of beauty”. Each one has a little bit of the craftsman who made it, in it.
In this day and age of “mass produced over seas junk”. It’s nice to hold something in your hand that someone with a special skill made and not a machine.

So I say, if you can afford it, BUY BUY BUY!!!:D

After all, didn’t someone once say “he who dies with the most toys wins”

Ya’ll have a great day.

Mark T.
 
goke said:
Was there a steady escalation of BogDog prices over a the last year or did they suddenly jump to this realm beacuse of an outrageous ebay auction or something?

A jump from $150 (or whatever they've been going for) to $350 just seems odd.

Anybody else think something fishy might be goin on here? (ie. no BD actually changed hands at this amount...)
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Yes, one recently sold here on the BF Exchange for $350. There have not been many other sales this summer, so it looks like $350 was an anomaly. What makes it more curious is that the seller had a BD listed a few weeks before that, and it did not even sell. The market is fickle.

After that sale; Paddling_Man listed a BD for $350. Nice money, if you can get it! It is now sold, but the price has been erased. I wonder if he would be willing to share the price he was able to get?

NO REGRETS!
 
I erased the asking price... it was not met.

I rapidly connected with a buyer and we settled on a combination of trade and cash. If he sees this thread and cares to disclose the trade details, it is fine with me. I won't on my own volition, though - that's a violation of his privacy without his consent.
 
Market IS fickle. Shocked at some of hte prices here. Not the ones asked, the ones that GO. There are a few up there now that I just CRINGE at.

I get sour grapes on occassion. Hated the fact that anyone selling a snakeskin GW was selling it for $75-100 more than they paid. So I waited and scored a black one. In reality, who cares what the scales looked like. I'm not payin a $100 premium for some pretty things on a knife I plan on USING.

As said above, it's not the sellers that cause this, but the constant cadre of uninformed buyers that grab at anything at any price. You would think they'd shake out after a while, but they don't.

On a related note; I can't understand how stuff goes for MORE THAN LIST on Ebay on a frequent basis. Someone'll pay 10% more than list for an Ipod THEN pay shipping instead of contacting Apple and getting it for list with FREE shipping. They get caught up in the auction-atmosphere. And just when I think the market has dried up of people stupid enuf to pay more than list, another group of them comes along. ???
 
I don't really know what the fuss is about. Like Heavy said, both parties were satisfied. Did any of you think that the seller of Bog Dog had good chance of not selling it at all, we've all seen overpriced rats or busses not moving until the prices were lowered. In this case, I believe the seller got lucky that the buyer came along, I for sure wouldn't pay that much for BD, hell I had two spare ones that I let go for $150 or so few months ago when the Rats were red hot. If someone can afford the high tag then good for them. No matter how much they pay, they get a kick ass knife. Just few hours ago, a heavy Heart went for over $700 on an auction site, seems like people like to engage in bidding wars, it's laughable.
 
One of the things I noticed here as a new person to the site is that certain Knives seem to pass through the same 4-5 peoples hands being resold for continually higher prices over a few weeks or months. Theses are the same people that then post on the final sale thread how this is such a great price to help bolster the final sellers position with a buyer who maby hasn't researched what the knife should be worth.
 
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