Did Maxpedition team up with Kevin McClung?

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Kohai999 said:
Maxpedition is making a cool product with nice materials and very similar ergos. This will give people a chance to decide if the MadDog product is worth the money, in their minds,...

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Yea, like the Pontiac Fiero did for those that wanted to buy a Ferrari.
 
Lost Cosmonaut said:
How many Mad Dog shill accounts does one forum need, anyway?
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If you're referring to my post I am neither McClung nor a shill for him. Don't make the mistake of assuming that anyone who speaks up about this is a shill, sockpuppet, troll, or speaking on McClung's behalf. I am however a knife buyer who is appalled by Tim Tang's perfidies. And I think that anyone who is even contemplating buying one of Maxpedition's knives should know exactly what Tang is up to, so they can make an educated choice about whether or not they want to give him their money.
 
DrFish said:
Wait. Seriously? Roogalator has been on this forum for nearly a DECADE longer that you. If he's a shill account, then Mad Dog was planning for this eventuality waaaayy in advance.
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Roogalator is also absolutely correct.....The sort of behavoir he describes from TT is just par for the course in Taiwan though.
 
mikeyd501 said:
Are you saying that because Tim is Taiwan born that excuses his behavior? Really?
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After reading his post here, I think I can safely say that Haze feels the exact opposite about this circumstance and is saying nothing more than that Tang's behavior is more the norm than the exception in Taiwan.

For myself, those knives in D2 at Maxpedition's price point sound like a good value. Don't care to own any products from either side of this dispute, however.
 
mikeyd501 said:
Are you saying that because Tim is Taiwan born that excuses his behavior? Really?
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I'm saying nothing of the sort. I live in Taiwan and have experienced and seen that sort of behavour so many times its become essentially normal to see. It excuses nothing and I have zero love for Tim or Kevin frankly.
 
Roogalator said:
Ultimately this has little to do with knives and everything to do with Tim Tang's egregious lack of personal integrity.

For around 20yrs Tang was an authorized distributor of Mad Dog knives and he and McClung were friends. In fact, Tang invited Kevin's whole family to Taiwan for his wedding. Kevin had been a vocal supporter of Maxpedition and its products, and two of his daughters worked the trade shows for Maxpedition.

However, despite being an authorized distributor, Tang never actually sold any Mad Dog knives. Instead he kept them for himself and over time amassed probably the largest collection of Mad Dog knives, hawks, swords, and axes anywhere in the world. And he did so at wholesale prices. Not really the behavior of an honorable person.

And then, without ever seeking Kevin's authorization, permission, or sanction of any kind, he brazenly ripped off Kevin's designs for his own line of knives. And when I say ripped off his designs I mean he produced knives and sheathes that are visually indistinguishable from Kevin's except upon close inspection. This is a blatant attempt to defraud buyers into thinking that they are buying a licensed copy of an original design, when in fact they are buying a complete ripoff.

Not only did Tang not seek Kevin's approval and any sort of licensing agreement, he didn't even have the common decency to inform Kevin of his plans. It was only AFTER Kevin found out about the ripoff and a sh!tstorm ensued that Tang 'offered' to cut Kevin a deal. The deal he offered was so appallingly meager that it was less of a 'deal' and more of a gratuitous insult. Tang's lame protestations that he isn't infringing any copyrighted designs is both desperate and risible.

If you buy Maxpedition's knives at least know that by doing so you are supporting a guy who thinks nothing of ripping off his friends, stabbing them in the back, and making a buck off their hard work and intellectual property.
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Might I ask how you know so much about the situation? Not trying to call anybody out, just trying verify whats true and whats not? Are you a Mad Dog collector/supporter?

I have nothing against Kevin but after searching and reading on the subject the last few days I would not purchase one of his knives. Not just because I think they are extremely overpriced for the materials you get but some of his actions are very odd IMO.

As far as stealing other peoples designs, I do not agree with it and hate that it is happening more and more frequently.
 
It seems to be the way of the world of late. A custom made product selling for thousands is duplicated, cloned, counterfeited or produced to look exactly alike or close enough to and then sold for almost nothing. Of course this is nothing new but with today's technology has become a serious problem for the custom market of any product.

Although Mad dog is priced out of my price market, I would never buy a clone, counterfeit or duplicated version of one, it's un American and just wrong!!
 
The part I find sad is that people on this forum want to tell a man what he can make and what he can sell it for. What Socialists pigs you are! I can't believe no one on this site had the balls to call you what you are. Shame on you.

If you don't like the man or his product don't buy his stuff or have a drink with him. But if a man makes something with his own two hands and pours his life into it who the f@#! are you to say what it is worth or what he should sell it for. Unless of course you want to buy one. But then you would have to have the income to afford it, which you don't so you have to complain about the man or the quality of the product of which you have no first hand experience to begin with. It's a vicious circle for you.

As far as Tim Tang goes that's a problem that he will have to deal with. Does it go on all the time in the business world? Sure it does. Does it make it morally and ethically right? Of course not and he knew it. Too bad for Tim.

Mike
 
Blownnova said:
Might I ask how you know so much about the situation? Not trying to call anybody out, just trying verify whats true and whats not? Are you a Mad Dog collector/supporter?

I have nothing against Kevin but after searching and reading on the subject the last few days I would not purchase one of his knives. Not just because I think they are extremely overpriced for the materials you get but some of his actions are very odd IMO.

As far as stealing other peoples designs, I do not agree with it and hate that it is happening more and more frequently.
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What do you mean by your statement that you weren't trying to call him out? Call him out on what exactly? His information is correct. You can pick up the phone and call either party to verify if you want.
 
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