Disagreements and Good Intentions

Our power went out shortly after Semper posted in the Meirs thread so I wasn't here until after the thread was closed.:(

Personally I like most of the off topic threads. Those that deal with family, recipes, bears, other knives besides khuks, guns, etc. Methinks we would miss Sarge's threads about the work he does and personally I feel that such threads are on topic because they deal with how to improve the karda's, chakmaks, and how to make neat things for our khuk's.

I feel the political threads should be posted in the Political Forum as that's what Spark created it for. I also don't like threads that run down any race or that makes fun of any race and the ethnic slur words that accompany such threads sometimes.:(
My opinion is let's keep the arguments out of the Cantina and post the threads that may be controversial in the forums where they belong.
There's already a Meirs thread in the Politcal Forum. I go in there and lurk once in a while and post once every blue moon or so.
Personally I like things peacefull, Whine and Cheese is fun as is The Pirates Cove and The Cove lets you look at pretty girls in all sorts of dress, or undress, if you wish too among other things.:thumbup: :) You just have to buy a membership to get into The Cove which is well worth the money, especially for a Basic which is only ten bux.:eek:
 
How 'bout them White Sox? :D

As much as I try to steer away from religion, the time I suggested adding beans to Yvsa's chile verde recipe just about got me sent to the ninth circle of hell. :o
 
I may be naive but I think that most people can tell a post that discusses a difficult topic from one that uses a difficult topic as an excuse to be offensive. I read a lot of forums, from Jerry Pournelle's Chaos Manor blog to Glocktalk, and only one time have I ever suggested that a thread be closed and a poster banned; because his intent was obviously to cause trouble on the board. I have stepped on toes by not being clear or by stating something that someone else didn't want to hear, but I have usually been given the benefit of the doubt for my intent, and I have always tried to give that same benefit to others. I think that Bill wanted this forum to be someplace where people could improve themselves, to move toward greater understand of themselves and others. I don't think that limiting discussions to a single narrow topic in order to avoid dealing with angry people would further that goal. Angry people are angry, they don't need an excuse, they will make their own if they have to, so trying to placate them will just limit the board and not solve anything.
 
This really has nothing to do with anything, but I had to correct something that was stated in the other thread:

hollowdweller said:
Back to Clinton and Corporations. He could have also vetoed this but he didn't:

PrivateSecurities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (PSLRA) – made it substantially more difficult for investors to sue to recover losses due to fraud. Moreover, evidence is now emerging indicating that the act, ostensibly aimed at so-called frivolous lawsuits, is having the effect that critics feared: Barring meritorious lawsuits in which investors are legitimately entitled to recover damages.
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Just to be historically accurate, Hollowdweller, President Clinton DID, indeed veto the PrivateSecurities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Congress subsequently overrode his veto, making the PSLRA law, anyway.



That's all. Just wanted the record to be correct on that point. :)
 
I enjoy quite a few of the OT/semi-OT (Sarge and DK knives, for instance) threads. If I can tell from the title it's something I'm not interested in- say a cheesecake thread or a "why X nationality are losers, not like Americans"- I don't open it. Of course, if the thread is a straight-up cheesecake (hey, shouldn't Gin be allowed to post beefcake threads? Only fair) thread, there's no reason it should be here...

On the whole, with all respect to Dave R- who I believe to be both thoughtful and to know quite a bit about cutting- I actually do learn a lot here. Only a little bit of that's about knives.

As far as "hot button" topics, I admit I often tend to react to certain religious posts in a fairly provocative way- with extensive footnoting, of course! ;) :rolleyes:

John
 
Kevin the grey said:
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My apologies to any who find any of my suggestions distasteful . Personally I rather like some Volvos .
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Bruise can sell you a dispensation for $10.00 to relieve you from responsibilitiy for liking some Volvos. :D


The only way to avoid being offended is to never get born. One CAN try not to unintentionally give offense and try to retain some degree of proportion. The whole trick of growing up is to figure out what "appropriate" behavior is. I mean, my best pal is a Notre Dame fan, and we still get along. That proves that anyone can get along. :p
 
I think we must all accept responsibility for the threads we choose to read. If a thread is off topic and you don't want to read politics...DONT! Its awful to think that if someone is irritated by a thread they would pitch a fit, insult everyone else rather than hit the back button and read something else. I am new here, but I'd like to get to know you gents and learn about Khuks. Please don't censure everyone because of one rotten egg. Throw the egg out, not the free exchange of ideas!!!!
 
What Ron S said about anger is the key.
And I'm guilty of that. I was angry this morning when I blasted at the snob caste system that rejected Miers. It wasn't about Republicans or Democrats; in fact, it wasn't that much politics. I was talking about people who believe only they can take certain duties and rewards of our Nation because of birth, background and school.

Could there be anyone who would object to my disgust at Class superiority?

Not many.
Was it my anger? Is that what those who did not want politics were responding to?
That actually makes sense. That may have been the real deal.

As long as we're airing all this out- I've heard a couple allusions to 'all powerful' mod, or 'disagree with mod' stuff.

Where's that coming from?

I'm not Bill nor Rusty. I wish either or both of them were here now. My big 'plan', and not so secret agenda, is to moderate this forum, writing sometimes my own style of looking at the world, share the great moments with friends here, (like this one now, if you look at it right) raise my sons, and write more books.

I don't see the power. I'm only worried my stories aren't interesting enough for you guys. You, Bill and the Cantina gave me a place to grow from. I'm so thankful for that. I think it's helped save my life. Where else could I write munk stuff without being misunderstood, belittled, or sneered at?

The 'wise' stuff is here. It's not mine. I come here because this is great. This place has greatness. I can learn here without being afraid.

I think those that worried the thread would blow up did us in the thread a disservice. Hollow and I were figuratively shaking hands. That is what this place is for. It's big enough to take chances for the greater rewards. Why else do many of us pour our hearts out here?

Personally, I'm going to be more careful with 'politics' (whatever that is) But the pain and conviction I had this morning about snobs is exactly what Rusty used to say was important to be able to bring here.

munk
 
Aardvark said:
Thomas, now you've pi$$ed me off! Bruise sells INDULGENCES!
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I was thinking he could widen his product line to relieve one from the rule that requires dumping on Volvos, no?
 
I don't post much;but I read all the posts almost daily. The off topic posts are what make the cantina what it is. SO, when every one gets over heated we should just chill. I've seen so few trolls inthis place I just ignore them. Al
 
Hmmm, a point worth considering. I'm not sure where he gets his products, but it could be a lucrative sideline.
 
I don't like rules.

Remember how Bill used to address the throng of enlightenment-seekers-carrying-giant-sharpened-knives, when he and we were talking about something seemingly far removed? "What does this have to do with khukuris? Everything!"

But, we are guests in another's house. Not everyone has the values and the proclivities to fit into a forum that is something like a cross between a zendo and the star-wars cantina. We need to be a little careful with what we write, and how we appear.

Ethnic slurs are not ok. Even if they're being written as an example of what we're not going to say. I probably blurred the line myself a while ago by posting what was sure to appear to a casual reader as a slur against those with alternate sexual orientations, but was really just an obsolete phrasology (intended to provoke) for an innocent thesis. I admit my guilt. I will try to act more appropriately, and will ask all of you also to be careful of the appearances we may present when we type ethnic slurs.

Namaste, my friends.
 
I've always believed the universe was self-correcting...this is a case in point.

Beer's gettin' warm...can we get back to that now?
 
Yvsa said:
Our power went out shortly after Semper posted in the Meirs thread so I wasn't here until after the thread was closed.:(

Personally I like most of the off topic threads. Those that deal with family, recipes, bears, other knives besides khuks, guns, etc. Methinks we would miss Sarge's threads about the work he does and personally I feel that such threads are on topic because they deal with how to improve the karda's, chakmaks, and how to make neat things for our khuk's.

I feel the political threads should be posted in the Political Forum as that's what Spark created it for. I also don't like threads that run down any race or that makes fun of any race and the ethnic slur words that accompany such threads sometimes.:(
My opinion is let's keep the arguments out of the Cantina and post the threads that may be controversial in the forums where they belong.
There's already a Meirs thread in the Political Forum. I go in there and lurk once in a while and post once every blue moon or so.
Personally I like things peaceful, Whine and Cheese is fun as is The Pirates Cove and The Cove lets you look at pretty girls in all sorts of dress, or undress, if you wish too among other things.:thumbup: :) You just have to buy a membership to get into The Cove which is well worth the money, especially for a Basic which is only ten bux.:eek:
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I agree with Yvsa. The HI forum is a family and I for one enjoy hearing news about my family. Politics are another matter. I avoid the Political forum because I find that political discussions do nothing but upset people. Please keep politics in the political forum and keep any racism to yourself. I don't want to hear it.
 
munk said:
Thats true, Cliff.
I see there is a thread now about Maoists in Nepal. That is political; is that OK?

With all earnestness, please bring all ideas to the table. If anyone has a way to make this place better, say so!



munk
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Maoists in Nepal has everything to do with Khukuris.

I've been in stealth mode for a year or so. Personal responsibilities have inhibited my ability to catch some of the fantastic specials by Yangdu. I'm always coming in too late for the free for all. I used to be a shark, but think I've now become a SunFish. lol Forumites gain, my loss, but as Uncle Bill told me more than once, "You have enough Khukuris" I haven't seen anyone mention the fantastic photos Yangdu is putting up. The knives on the antlers are really great! Still have to get one of Yangdus special knives that she claimed as her own mark on HI.

When ever I read of the Maoists and what they are doing to Nepal, I fear for the great craftsman and their families of BirGorka. I'm concerned for Yangdu and Pala, having personally met them. Great people.

HI forumites are a great family and as familys do, we spat occasionally, but we are still family. Y'all have made a big impression on lifes journey.
 
Well, this ballooned fast and I guess I missed all the excitement. My strong preference I think mirrors that of Uncle Bill, in that I want this place to have as much latitude as possible.

As long as there is no name calling or ethnic slurs or XXX rated stuff, I think just about all subjects should be up for discussion. Of course, people can always take offense at anything, but what makes this place special is that seems to happen very rarely, and even the newbies seem to pick up on the special atmosphere that we have here.

Go onto BF and see how many people browse this particular manufacturers forum; it's no secret that this is a special place, (although at times I wish we could keep it hidden from "outsiders.") ;) But each new browser is a potential HIKV addict, which will just add to the experience for all of us.

I say don't touch a thing, but at the same time would understand if the moderators ask that anything overtly political be moved to the politics forum. I think though that that would make it a bit less fun around here if that happened...

Thanks,

Norm
 
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