Disk sander question

Nathan

Is it reasonable to try turning that hardened 4140 with HSS tools or is carbide a must have ?

I don't honestly know. I do know that it takes carbide to hit SFM to prevent BUE, so if you want it shiny you'll do better with carbide.
 
Nathan, is it something that if you had enough PAID pre-orders you could job out. . . With your guidance to whoever would do it, I think it might be a worthwhile run . . My opinion . . . Just saying . . .

Steve

Probably not a great idea.

I did document my process in a WIP and anyone is free to use it.
 
I have the Nielsen magnetic disc system and it was kind of expensive. Just like my Beaumont disc table was kind of expensive...just like my Beaumont Rotary Platen was kind of expensive.. and so on. I have 2 thin 18 gall 9 inch plates and 2 of the regular machined steel plates that Nielsen makes. the less expensive plates require a 1/16 inch cork backing but work well. I put a tiny and slight chamfer on the edges and I now make flatter knives. I was doing fine with the Beaumont machined aluminum disc which I still have but for convenience I like having 4 different sandpapers mounted on discs ready to work. This is a luxury but I must say the Nielsen disc is beautifully made and very useful. I never thought I would get the value out of my rotary platen either but I was wrong. It is also useful if not essential to me. I now think in terms of "how many knives will I have to sell to pay for this?" and it is easier for me to justify. I know that great equipment will never substitute for skill but I am certain that fine equipment will help a skillful knife maker attain more consistency and a finer finish with practice. I also bought Nathan's platen and chiller which are a bargain for what they do. Larry

Have you ever measured the runout on the face of the mounting hub only?
 
I don't need it to be hardened or precision ground, really.
I just need it to be steel.
I'm doing a procedure where something I do is digging into the edge of the aluminum wheel.
It would not dig into steel.


for you need it to be hardened or just precision ground?
 
I recommend talking about a one off with an experienced machinist. This is a difficult project for many but not for someone that has experience.
 
Is the tru-grit disk aluminum? (Honestly, I do not know) If it is steel, then why not go with that for your needs of a steel disk? Apparently, the Beaumont Metal Works disk is aluminum. I didn't realize this in my original reply.

I own the Nielsen disk system and am completely satisfied with it although it is a bit pricey and because I am not worried about 0.002" surface flatness or rotational run-out after easily slapping a different grit disk onto the magnetic hub. It does a great job of flattening handle tangs and scales and allows for easy grit progression.

As Karl stated, he is simply seeking a steel disk. I guess that he grinds a lot on the edge of the disk and aluminum is not quite up to the task?

I can't imagine that any machine shop which supplies disks to the various knife making suppliers are not aware that it is best to machine the bore, face, and OD in one set-up . . . it's not rocket science to machine it true whether it is steel or aluminum. Since these are intended to install onto a motor shaft, there are tight tolerances already generally established for the fitment over motor shafts and most shops wouldn't simply drill the hole with a drill bit. It's generally understood that the bore must be turned with a tool rather than drilled with a bit. Properly annotated detail drawings with geometric tolerances can force these requirements upon the supplying machine shop, as well.

Machining hardened steel to such a thin profile is a different story, but I argue why that is even necessary due to the economics. Yes, I would like a very hard plate which will last a long time, but . . .

By the way, no one . . . can machine with zero run-out. There's always an allowable tolerance.

I think disk grinder systems are over-discussed. :)

Mike L.
 
Tru Grits are aluminum, I forgot to mention that. My issue is I need a large shaft size due to already having the motor.
 
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