First and foremost, I am not telling this story for sympathy. I am fully cognizant of the fact that it's greatly on my part that I let Running W/ Scissors screw me out of money.
The mentioned seller posts a few knives for sale of which I was interested in buying. We PM'd back and forth about pricing on one knife, then I decided I wanted to of them so we went back and forth a few times to come to an agreement on the price for a package deal (keep in mind it takes him at least a few hours to respond typically). He had mentioned at one point that the money needed to be PayPal F&F (RED FLAG) and I assumed it was due to the fees being taken out. So after we agreed on the price of $425, I adjusted what I sent him accordingly and sent it via G&S so I would be protected (Monday, August 1) . After he received the funds, and without even consulting me, he IMMEDIATELY refunded my money and said we agreed on $425 F&F and couldn't accept the money I sent him because PP would put a 21 day hold on (something I'd never heard of or had a problem with before)(RED FLAG #2). So now my money has been refunded and it takes 4 days to post in my PP account.
I was a little heated about the fact he sent my money back without even discussing the issue. Given the fact that I was still really interested in the knives, against my better judgement, I decided to work a compromising deal with him. He wanted me to F&F the full $425 for the 2 knives and then ship them Friday (This was on August 2)(RED FLAG #3). I told him there's no way I am sending you $425 and you're going to sit around on my money for 2/3 days before shipping. So I decided to shoot him the offer of I send you $200 now F&F as you requested, you ship my knives TOMORROW and as soon as I receive them I'll send you the remainder of what I owe. I have great feedback, so there was no reason for him to even worry about me not holding my end of the deal. Him on the other hand had just signed up on BF that week (RED FLAG #4). He accepted the offer, I stupidly sent him the money, and was waiting to see what the next day held.
I PM'd him later Wednesday evening, because it's like pulling teeth trying to get responses out of him, asking if he had sent my knives to me. He replied to me even later in the evening saying "Yep! It's on the way! Tell me when it gets there". These were the last words I ever pulled from this guy. I've sent him multiple PM's, one asking what my USPS Tracking # is, asking what gives on not shipping my knives to me, asking for a contact information so we can discuss this on going problem. Nothing. I know that he's been online and replied to other members since cause he's still trying to scam them out of their money feeding them the " I have one left $200 F&F only" BS. He's told 2 different members this that I know of.
So here I sit, more pissed off that I had more faith in humanity, $200 short, and nothing to show for. I was stupid and naive to think that this was going to work the way I wanted it to. Not to mention the guy is a ghost in every aspect of the internet. His email address is linked to nothing but his PayPal. I was able to dig up information about where this guy is doing business from thanks to a good friend of mine, but at the end of the day, knowing no other information about him isn't really going to help me.
I'm currently trying my chances with PP and my bank in order to potentially get my money back, but I know how the story goes with PP F&F, so I am not hopeful my any means. If anyone has any input on options that I may have, or something that I haven't tried yet let me know. But until then, stay on your toes, you'd be surprised just how slimy thieves can be.
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...de-Paramilitary-2s!!!?p=16338115#post16338115
The mentioned seller posts a few knives for sale of which I was interested in buying. We PM'd back and forth about pricing on one knife, then I decided I wanted to of them so we went back and forth a few times to come to an agreement on the price for a package deal (keep in mind it takes him at least a few hours to respond typically). He had mentioned at one point that the money needed to be PayPal F&F (RED FLAG) and I assumed it was due to the fees being taken out. So after we agreed on the price of $425, I adjusted what I sent him accordingly and sent it via G&S so I would be protected (Monday, August 1) . After he received the funds, and without even consulting me, he IMMEDIATELY refunded my money and said we agreed on $425 F&F and couldn't accept the money I sent him because PP would put a 21 day hold on (something I'd never heard of or had a problem with before)(RED FLAG #2). So now my money has been refunded and it takes 4 days to post in my PP account.
I was a little heated about the fact he sent my money back without even discussing the issue. Given the fact that I was still really interested in the knives, against my better judgement, I decided to work a compromising deal with him. He wanted me to F&F the full $425 for the 2 knives and then ship them Friday (This was on August 2)(RED FLAG #3). I told him there's no way I am sending you $425 and you're going to sit around on my money for 2/3 days before shipping. So I decided to shoot him the offer of I send you $200 now F&F as you requested, you ship my knives TOMORROW and as soon as I receive them I'll send you the remainder of what I owe. I have great feedback, so there was no reason for him to even worry about me not holding my end of the deal. Him on the other hand had just signed up on BF that week (RED FLAG #4). He accepted the offer, I stupidly sent him the money, and was waiting to see what the next day held.
I PM'd him later Wednesday evening, because it's like pulling teeth trying to get responses out of him, asking if he had sent my knives to me. He replied to me even later in the evening saying "Yep! It's on the way! Tell me when it gets there". These were the last words I ever pulled from this guy. I've sent him multiple PM's, one asking what my USPS Tracking # is, asking what gives on not shipping my knives to me, asking for a contact information so we can discuss this on going problem. Nothing. I know that he's been online and replied to other members since cause he's still trying to scam them out of their money feeding them the " I have one left $200 F&F only" BS. He's told 2 different members this that I know of.
So here I sit, more pissed off that I had more faith in humanity, $200 short, and nothing to show for. I was stupid and naive to think that this was going to work the way I wanted it to. Not to mention the guy is a ghost in every aspect of the internet. His email address is linked to nothing but his PayPal. I was able to dig up information about where this guy is doing business from thanks to a good friend of mine, but at the end of the day, knowing no other information about him isn't really going to help me.
I'm currently trying my chances with PP and my bank in order to potentially get my money back, but I know how the story goes with PP F&F, so I am not hopeful my any means. If anyone has any input on options that I may have, or something that I haven't tried yet let me know. But until then, stay on your toes, you'd be surprised just how slimy thieves can be.
Link to original thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...de-Paramilitary-2s!!!?p=16338115#post16338115
