I have met so many people who own or have owned Emerson and complain about the quality/execution of them.
Do they wrong? no. Do they right?, hell no... Everyone sure have their own opinion, right?
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I have met so many people who own or have owned Emerson and complain about the quality/execution of them.
Do they wrong? no. Do they right?, hell no... Everyone sure have their own opinion, right?
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You quoted 3 posts from a 9 page thread. I'll give you that the posts you quoted, including your own, were criticisms based on personal experiences. The thread in question has many more than 3 posts stating that Emersons are over rated, as well as many other brands, without any claims of personal experience.
Heres a specific example:
This is not the only thread of its kind either.
I think the biggest problem with all the threads of that type is that they all basically end up like this:
brand x hater: "brand x sux"
Brand x fan boy: "no it doesn't"
brand x hater: "yes it does"
brand y hater: "brand Y also sux"
Brand y fan boy: "no it doesn't"
brand Y hater: "yes it does"
fan boys: "you suck"
haters: "you suck more"
Mod: "thread is closed"
From my observations, you may not agree, it seems like the most hate always ends up being leveled toward Emerson, and CRK, with various other brands thrown in as well.
I have never seen a thread like that not turn in to a lot of butt hurt ranting. YMMV.
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I'll concede that some "bashing" is really people reporting individual problems they've had with brands. However, much negative commentary in forums stem from people repeating the isolated instances of poor performance as if they had first hand knowledge. And repeating it again and again until others repeat the same sad stories. Almost like the old saying of "repeating a lie until it becomes Truth". Except it's more like repeating one instance of poor performance 1000 times until it appears to be 1000 instances of poor performance.
Brand bashing is nothing new and it's certainly not confined to Emerson. I've seen it often in Internet forums. SIG-Sauer handguns come readily to mind. I read repeated stories of how the USA-made SIGs were inferior to the German-made SIGs until I believed the USA-made SIGs were so poorly built they all came defective, would fall apart in short order, were unreliable and were totally inaccurate. I found out it was BS when I purchased my first SIG and it and each subsequent SIG I bought was totally reliable and highly accurate.
I'm new to Emerson knives. Just bought my first and I have a second on order. I'm glad I put the negative comments on the back burner and tried Emerson for myself. Most people won't do that. They'll let someone else dictate their preferences and opinions.
Brand bashing is nothing new and it's certainly not confined to Emerson. I've seen it often in Internet forums. SIG-Sauer handguns come readily to mind. I read repeated stories of how the USA-made SIGs were inferior to the German-made SIGs until I believed the USA-made SIGs were so poorly built they all came defective, would fall apart in short order, were unreliable and were totally inaccurate. I found out it was BS when I purchased my first SIG and it and each subsequent SIG I bought was totally reliable and highly accurate.
I'm new to Emerson knives. Just bought my first and I have a second on order. I'm glad I put the negative comments on the back burner and tried Emerson for myself. Most people won't do that. They'll let someone else dictate their preferences and opinions.
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This thread is beautiful. Perfectly sums up the reason I don't really care to post anywhere else anymore.
Anytime I get a wild hair to post anything DIFFERENT from the same old rehashed crap, the current alphas and resident forum celebrities show up to try and call out the error of my thinking. O Ya, forgot this was my first rodeo. Thx for reminding me what's trendy and en vogue. Didn't know my post count trumped my years of being here.
Been there. Done that. The ship has sailed. The horse is dead. I'd rather USE my knives then overanalyze and rationalize why I have them.
Then I come back to this subforum, and it's just a whole different breed of people. I actually enjoy the conversations and mentality here, instead of wanting to facepalm myself after reading three posts.
Anytime I get a wild hair to post anything DIFFERENT from the same old rehashed crap, the current alphas and resident forum celebrities show up to try and call out the error of my thinking. O Ya, forgot this was my first rodeo. Thx for reminding me what's trendy and en vogue. Didn't know my post count trumped my years of being here.
Been there. Done that. The ship has sailed. The horse is dead. I'd rather USE my knives then overanalyze and rationalize why I have them.
Then I come back to this subforum, and it's just a whole different breed of people. I actually enjoy the conversations and mentality here, instead of wanting to facepalm myself after reading three posts.
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I agree with you. I just wish there was more action in this forum.
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I read dankes post and chuckled lol I don't think he was serious about what he said honestly.
I realize how those threads usually go people get butt hurt and have to defend their favorite brand.. Some of those people posted in this thread and even used the word fan boy in the other thread.. Oh the irony.
Realistically not every thread will be about singing songs and holding hands over knife brands, I like variety and people have a right to their opinions (although I may not agree with them) and can voice their opinions in threads like the one in general.
That said, people get a little too worked up over other peoples opinions of what ever company they like. I'm more of the who gives a hell what other people think type dude. I'll say my opinions you'll say yours and that's that , why does it have to devolve into immature finger pointing... I guess emotional attachment to their brand is strong lol
I realize how those threads usually go people get butt hurt and have to defend their favorite brand.. Some of those people posted in this thread and even used the word fan boy in the other thread.. Oh the irony.
Realistically not every thread will be about singing songs and holding hands over knife brands, I like variety and people have a right to their opinions (although I may not agree with them) and can voice their opinions in threads like the one in general.
That said, people get a little too worked up over other peoples opinions of what ever company they like. I'm more of the who gives a hell what other people think type dude. I'll say my opinions you'll say yours and that's that , why does it have to devolve into immature finger pointing... I guess emotional attachment to their brand is strong lol
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Hypocritical fanboys? Say it ain't so.. Lol
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I don't think anyone was "unhappy" Emerson was getting bashed,
I know for me, my argument was people who DON'T own Emerson's (or any brand for that matter) come in and say the same shit over and over just because they heard it somewhere before.
Just like a lot of those guys bashing CRK have never owned a CRK, I think if you have had experience with a product or many products from that brand then you are entitled to a statement or opinion...
If you have zero experience with a brand and you are just stating what you heard others say then shut up and sit there, don't talk, you have no right until you own or try that said brand.
I know for me, my argument was people who DON'T own Emerson's (or any brand for that matter) come in and say the same shit over and over just because they heard it somewhere before.
Just like a lot of those guys bashing CRK have never owned a CRK, I think if you have had experience with a product or many products from that brand then you are entitled to a statement or opinion...
If you have zero experience with a brand and you are just stating what you heard others say then shut up and sit there, don't talk, you have no right until you own or try that said brand.
A knife like an Emerson (or a Medford, or a Spyderco even) is extremely polarizing.
As many of the features that I like about my CQC-7 will drive other people into a foaming rage about chisel grinds or whatever else.
And unfortunately ownership does not confer the magic wand of reason onto all users. Everyone has seen the threads in this section where someone bought an Emerson knife, made a snap decision that they didn't like it and are now headed for the bridge with their girlfriend in the trunk.
As many of the features that I like about my CQC-7 will drive other people into a foaming rage about chisel grinds or whatever else.
And unfortunately ownership does not confer the magic wand of reason onto all users. Everyone has seen the threads in this section where someone bought an Emerson knife, made a snap decision that they didn't like it and are now headed for the bridge with their girlfriend in the trunk.
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i just got an apache. man i love it. not for everyone though.
criticism is a good thing. it make honest makers work harder. emerson has always worked hard, and i expect he'll keep working hard.
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Emersons rock,for me. In fact I am a fan of anything Emerson, including the t-shirts, of which I need more. I have never experienced a negative issue with any of their blades I have had or still have, they are rock solid and sharper than 10 mofos; and I praise them because of that and because I am a fan of Ernie and what he stands for; I understand that many people have experienced issues with some of the blades, quality control, the chisel edge, lock, etc; but I wonder how many of those people have actually called Emerson to discuss their issues and to see if they can be solved under warranty, or if they can be solved at all. I think it is lame to come to the forum to complain about something without giving the company a chance to correct the issues first.
Call me a fan boy if you like, I don't care; I have experienced issues with other brands, ZT (lock issues) and Spyderco (breakage of parts) for example (I'm still a fan of both), and after calling them or emailing them, they have solved all the problems I had; but believe me, I have never come here to criticize those companies, on the contrary, I have praised their customer service, if not here at home and with my friends. We live in a fallen world, filled with imperfections and all kinds of defects (me for example); and we all have an opinion that can be voiced respectfully, no one is perfect.
Emerson knives are not perfect, (in fact I think they are "raw") but they work for me; now, what is "hard use"? I understand the term as using the knife to cut in a hard way, maybe I'm wrong; I would never go battoning with my Emersons, unless that is all I had on me and I was in a life threatening situation; but I think it would be stupid to venture into the wilderness with only a folding knife, I would take a Busse with me also, or something similar that can take the punishment; but again, what is "hard use" for me might be different for someone else.
When people say "they're overrated" what does that mean? Countless people call a Sebenza 21 an "overrated" knife (I'm also a fan of CRK), why, because they are 410 dollars and can cut the same as a 35 dollar Kershaw? I think that is the wrong term; as with the Sebenza, Emersons are really "misunderstood", they are not even in the same class but both will give you a cutting tool that will perform when you need it to perform, at least that is my experience; my opinion is just that, an opinion, an opinion based on years of experience under real working scenarios, but still just an opinion. Thank God we live in a country where we can still voice our opinions and do so with freedom, that freedom includes my choice of sub forums to hang out in; and I like it here.
Since I am on pain killers around the clock because of my back, what I have said above might not have anything to do with the original post, or with the thread, and I apologize if that is the case, so now I'm going to the kitchen to use my new Roadhouse and hard use it to cut some oranges, and make me sammich.
Call me a fan boy if you like, I don't care; I have experienced issues with other brands, ZT (lock issues) and Spyderco (breakage of parts) for example (I'm still a fan of both), and after calling them or emailing them, they have solved all the problems I had; but believe me, I have never come here to criticize those companies, on the contrary, I have praised their customer service, if not here at home and with my friends. We live in a fallen world, filled with imperfections and all kinds of defects (me for example); and we all have an opinion that can be voiced respectfully, no one is perfect.
Emerson knives are not perfect, (in fact I think they are "raw") but they work for me; now, what is "hard use"? I understand the term as using the knife to cut in a hard way, maybe I'm wrong; I would never go battoning with my Emersons, unless that is all I had on me and I was in a life threatening situation; but I think it would be stupid to venture into the wilderness with only a folding knife, I would take a Busse with me also, or something similar that can take the punishment; but again, what is "hard use" for me might be different for someone else.
When people say "they're overrated" what does that mean? Countless people call a Sebenza 21 an "overrated" knife (I'm also a fan of CRK), why, because they are 410 dollars and can cut the same as a 35 dollar Kershaw? I think that is the wrong term; as with the Sebenza, Emersons are really "misunderstood", they are not even in the same class but both will give you a cutting tool that will perform when you need it to perform, at least that is my experience; my opinion is just that, an opinion, an opinion based on years of experience under real working scenarios, but still just an opinion. Thank God we live in a country where we can still voice our opinions and do so with freedom, that freedom includes my choice of sub forums to hang out in; and I like it here.
Since I am on pain killers around the clock because of my back, what I have said above might not have anything to do with the original post, or with the thread, and I apologize if that is the case, so now I'm going to the kitchen to use my new Roadhouse and hard use it to cut some oranges, and make me sammich.
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^ Nice Apache, I loooovvve mine, something about a bowie
yea, I love me some bowies too.
