Do You Want The Little Rusty Knife?

munk said:
As for the sheaths, I almost think sheath constuction should be a different thread- if Norm or others have something to suggest.


munk

I had no input on the sheath construction for the Sgian Dubh.

My comments on the sheaths at the end of my post were in regarding to those offered on the R-6. I frankly think they are very poor, as I believe do many others, and was suggesting a return to the original cool wraparound R-6 sheath of 3/27 or a JKM sheath which I believe would improve sales.

As to the Sgian Dubh sheaths, they are fine and well made, but several had somewhat dry and discolored leather. I dyed mine and gave it about 5 good rubbings with leather dressing and it is perfect for me now. If the future ones come with decent black leather then the issue is resolved as far as I'm concerned.

Now that Dave has mentioned an antler one, I can just picture it and wouldn't mind one of those as well!

Norm
 
Sylvrfalcn said:
It's a good knife and well made, but the engraved inscriptions appeal only to a limited audience. I've no doubt a "plain jane" version would sell briskly.

Sarge

I agree with Sarge that they would sell briskly and especially if people of Scots ancestory as well as the reinactor crowd got wind of them. IIRC Dan helps Yangdu some with the HI Website so he could probably set things up so that when someone clicked on a search for a sgian dubh they would be directed to the HI Website.:thumbup:
I'd bet that once the word gets out that these are well made and accurate sgian dubh they would sell better than briskly. They need a better sheath, thicker leather, black preferably and black horn handles to suit their description of The Black Knife.:thumbup: :cool: :D
If I weren't on a fixed income I'd buy a slew of them for gifts!
 
Cost reduction would be a key selling point for me. I like the design.

I've been spending too much on flashlights recently, and very little on knives. Doh!
 
All this talk about the RSD has stirred my spirit to carry the little bugger on my person today:)
As others have mentioned, a plain version would be best for sales. Personally, I will still carry and use my "dudded up" one with the writing on it. I like to use it because I always get questions on what all the writing means. I love to tell the story of Uncle Bill and Rusty and the community of friends and family here. Of course, I'm a talker;) A plain version would be nice as well. You know, I really do have lust in my heart for a villager blade with polished antler. What a contrast!:eek:
Anyway, a word on the sheath. To me, the sheath is not a big issue. I think they are well made, but as Norm said they are all fit and little finish (oil stained). However, I'm not a crafty man, nor a handy man, nor a particularly smart man, but in a few short months of experimentation I have figured out how to make a functional (read ugly as the gates of hell) sheath for every type of knife that I have from HI. The RSD is an easy project knife for sheath experimentation. I would invite anyone who ever even THOUGHT about trying to do their own sheath to buy a RSD and give it a whirl. You can put one together for less that 5 bucks of materials and maybe 30 or 40 mins of your time. It won't look like LeatherFace's or Andy's or Dan's...but it'll work;)

Jake
 
Ummm, Jake it's time to move on to another sig line. The bacon is done. How about the zombie brain thing again?;)
 
i too would like to see a sterile version, absolutely no marks, whatsoever. not even the HI "logo", kami mark, etc. see, on a large khukri, some tiny script isn't a big thing. on a small knife, even the standard sized script is jarring. if they could manage SUPER SMALL marks, or put them on the tang, or hide them somehow... yah.

i never knew rusty, but i know what the knife means, with or without marks.

and folx, look what an ag russell sting goes for these days. the rusty model will probably appreciate in some way, and you'll sad for not having one (i should speak, i don't have one yet). i have been eyeing... i have kilts ;>

a black WOOD handle would be keen too. a better sheath never hurts, but we all know that if you don't like the sheath, get a better one yerself.

that's about my piece. back to the mines

bladite
 
Aye, a villager RSD that was actually SHARP with minimal blade etching, but still with the file work on the false edge would be a winner. The handle could be horn or wood, no real matter, just nicely fit and finished. The sheath might be a tad deeper so you don't lose the knife the first time you run also.
In my opinion, that would be great. The present price is also not bad, check out the price of Sgian Dubh knives in general. And, this one will actually CUT something! I don't think the price would scare anybody off.
 
I was pretty excited by the concept, but I ended up not being a big fan of so much writing on a small blade. It was not a cost issue, with me, at least.

I will happily buy one with less writing and with an antler handle, as a few people have suggested.
 
Good News! Thanks to all of your suggestions!

I talked to Yangdu this am and she thinks if we drop the script she can lower the price considerably.

We will know the knife was made to honor Rusty.

I'm glad.


munk
 
I've a proud Scot friend who's met with hard times who will receive an unmarked one from me.

I'd still vote, though, for a very small HI insignia on the blade, right next to the handle.
 
Munk, thanks for helping Yangdu with this! :) I hope she is able to keep the knife around, with out the writing. A starile blade would be more apealing to me.

Gents, Yangdu isn't talking about Retail cost (what you and I pay for the knife), she is talking about production cost. If she can get her cost down and keep retail cost the same, it would be great! I'm willing to spend money on a nice product and the sheath isn't important to me. For all I care, it could come in a cardboard sleeve. I'll just make my own sheath. Would love to have a sterile blade. If she can make a profit on them, I say keep them around and sign me up for one. Would go nicely with some of my daggers. :D

Heber
 
Oh gosh I truly hope that you all don't think I'm unhappy with the RSD! Even though the sheath could use some work it is fine for what it is. This does not in ANY way detract from the quality of the blade or how happy I am for getting one! I was only meaning that I'm going to have to design a conceal/carry sheath of my own for this knife, I'm that impressed with the handling and the feel of this wonderful blade. My wife is actually getting a bit jealous as I've been handling it more than I do..... well anyway we won't go there! Please don't get the wrong idea folks. As always, Yangdu and the kamis have come forward with an excellent piece of craftsmanship for us to enjoy!

Namaste (is that how you say it?)!!

Jack
 
Namasté or Namaskar (नमस्ते in Hindi, from Sanskrit namaḥ te) is a South Asian greeting originating in India, which is used when both hello and goodbye would be used in English. The meaning is quite different, however.

Sanskrit namaḥ means "bow, obeisance, reverential salutation, adoration". Te is the dative of the personal pronoun tvam, "you". A literal translation of namaḥ te is thus "reverential salutation to you." It is commonly accompanied by a slight bow made with the hands pressed together, palms touching, in front of the chest.

In a religious context this word can be taken to mean any of these:

The Spirit in me meets the same Spirit in you.
I greet that place where you and I are one.
I salute the Light of God in you.
I bow to the divine in you.
I recognize that within each of us is a place where Divinity dwells, and when we are in that place, we are One.

In other words, it recognizes the equality of all, and pays honor to the sacredness and interconnection of all, as well as to the source of that interconnection. Namaskar is the term for such greetings, and is also used as a greeting itself.


from wikipedia
 
Let's not bargain away the sheath, folks. The HI sheath makers are capable of some really good work, and I think we should appreciate what they can do and not allow them to get away with second class workmanship. They are craftsmen in their own right, and they should be held to high standards, and then appreciated for the quaility of their work.
Isn't that what pride in your craft is all about?
 
I'm bumping this up to the top because I want to know what people think about my sheath post (last post before this one). Do you think we should respect the HI sheath makers enough to expect excellent work from them, or should we just figure they can't do it right and forget about it?
What do you think?
 
Shadow, I don't see our posts as disrespect to the sheath makers. Actually, they followed Sarge's sheath design pretty dang close. The only thing that was "wrong" with mine was that the leather had an oil stain on it. That could have been as simple as the oil soaking through while making the trip to the US. No fault there. However, these are people that, while taking great pride in their work, really are focused on form following function. I don't see anything wrong with the design of the sheath or its construction. However, it didn't work for me. I like my sheathes to have a little more grab to them as I ride a motorcycle to and from work pretty much on an every day basis. That said, I made an ugly as sin sheath out of 9 oz leather with a bit of a kydex-like -snap- when the RSD is shoved in. Jump rated? no. However, it doesn't rattle loose traveling at 60mph either;)
In short, the sheath that came with the RSD is very well made, functional, and with a little bit of travel clean-up can be beautiful (see Norm's). However, it won't fit all functions all of the time. I could see making a leather over wood scabbard studded with decorative tacks for a dressy mode of carry or an ugly ol' sheath like mine that does nothing but hold the knife tight enough so that my bumpy ride to work doesn't send it cartwheeling down the street:)

Jake
 
I agree with Jake on this one. Whereas I personally don't like the sheath that came with me RSD, it is a functional sheath and is very well made. The only real complaint I have with it is that it is designed for only one style of carry where I would prefer a sheath made with the versatility of carrying it in many different places and positions. That is all that I was saying with my original post.

Jack
 
ShadowchaserUFP said:
I agree with Jake on this one. Whereas I personally don't like the sheath that came with me RSD, it is a functional sheath and is very well made. The only real complaint I have with it is that it is designed for only one style of carry where I would prefer a sheath made with the versatility of carrying it in many different places and positions. That is all that I was saying with my original post.

Jack

Ummm, it is a sgian dubh after all. . . . . . ;) :D

Sarge
 
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