GaryM,
Take several deep breaths.
My last post was not (nor is this post) intended to incite you any further than you already are. I don't need you rallying "the community" to send me "hate mail."
You totally missed the entire intent of my last post! Read your first post on this thread.
"I propose we as a community let Docbart know we do not tolerate his behavior. We can do this by each sending him an e-mail with a simple message. "Do The Right Thing" Make it the subject and all mail on the same day, say 4-7-00. All those in favor say I."
"I propose we as a community......
I sympathize with you! But you weren't part of the "deals gone bad" with Doc Bart were you? When did you become the rally spokesperson for "this community?" If I remember correctly there are several people who possess the titles of "spokespeople" for this Forum. I'm lookin' at your moniker and it doesn't reflect that status level.
"let Docbart know we do not tolerate his behavior"
That's been done! Again, I think that if a poll were taken "most" of the forumites would tell you that they consider his conduct and behavior lacking of what it takes to be a "Ka-Nife Nut." Look at the other posts made in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly to get an idea.
"Do The Right Thing"
I totally agree with you. Doc Bart needs to do the right thing! But again, look at the other posts made in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. I don't think that anyone heard, saw or smelt Doc Bart running to beat on the Forums doors to proclaim his guilt and come clean. Did you? If I'm not mistaken, the individuals that were part of the "deals gone bad" with Doc Bart asked Spark and or Mike to step in and assist. That happened! I think that Spark reported the outcome of a specific e-mail that Doc Bart sent to him. Hence, posting rights revoked. I know..........not strong enough censure for sure ~ ~ ~ but a step in the right direction.
Latest post..........
"I can hardly believe I have to defend this effort but here goes."
You don't have to defend your effort(s) to me. As with most of your statements this one also permeates the bandwagon and or emotional appeal (ranges from the use of emotionally charged words to name-calling).
"Community-a body of people living in the same place under the same laws. This in a sense is what we are. A member has violated a core law. TRUST! And he has been unrepentant and without defense. He knows he has done wrong. This effort is meant to reinforce that the rest of the community also recognizes his transgressions."
I've followed the other threads. But this above statement makes you a street-corner lawyer, judge and the hangman! Again, when were you appointed as the spokesperson for the "rest of the community."
Yet, "DocBart" isn't phased by your or anyone else's actions. If you had any thoughts (up to 30 Mar 00) that he was going to hang around with the same e-mail address that he used to "rip-off" several of the fine members of "our community" then you were surely mistaken! I think that it's rather humorous that you thought that he was going to wait around until 8 Apr 00 then change his e-mail address. Even in battle there is a thing called, "the element of surprise."
("all mail on the same day, say 4-7-00.")
The guy is a POS. Do you know what "POS" means? He's a hump, a Richard, a hole, etc.......
"What are the wronged to do? Find out where Docbart lives and file in small claims court in his district? It's not worth the cost of fileing, travel, time off work etc. Unless GigOne wants to pay for it all in the name of "legal recourse."
And by the way......there are other "legal recourses" other than "small claims courts." But again, another statement that permeates the bandwagon and or emotional appeal. No matter what you may think of "our" laws ~ ~ ~ they're there for all to adhere to (including Doc Bart) not push to the curb when you don't think that justice is done! And then attempt to rally the folks to play your own "hammer~time."
"The point is a show of support for right -v- wrong not harassment."
Your effort and intent is to show your support by "a 1 time show of support" for the wronged ~ ~ ~ no matter what you call it ~ ~ ~ it's still harassment. Did you actually read your dictionary quote? What you're asking others to do is harass our resident "POS."
"My proposal is for a 1 time show of support for the wronged. As a community I think it's the least we can do. You can sit by and do nothing or you can take a stand."
This above quote is called, "false choice or faulty dilemma fallacy?" It's based on the claim that no middle ground exists. For example, "We either fight to win or don't get involved." But, there's also the bandwagon and or emotional appeal laden through the entire statement.
But, ya see there is a space here. I don't have to agree with you 100%. I agree that Doc Bart isn't my choice of "Ka-Nife Nut of da Year."
But, it also means that I definitely disagree with your methods of handling the situation that "you" aren't personally effected by!
I'll repeat this again. DOC BART IS A PIECE OF ........ for what he has done.
But, this DOES NOT give you nor any other Forum member the right to e-mail him, call him, harass him, etc....unless you "personally" have business with him
This is between Doc Bart and the ones that he's taken advantage of!
Not you nor any other forum members!
You started a thread and I made a post to it. My post was what I thought. You don't like what I posted. Ohhhh welllllll. I find this thread rather humorous!!
GaryM.....I'll not debate with you on this issue in this public forum. Post your e-mail address and we can continue this off line.
AGAIN, What we need to do is unite and support the few who were taken advantage of in their fight to "legally" hammer our resident POS ("DocBart")!
It's not my .25 cents worth now...... We're all the way up to .50 cents.....
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GigOne
"Livin' Life - Full Throttle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it."
Take several deep breaths.
My last post was not (nor is this post) intended to incite you any further than you already are. I don't need you rallying "the community" to send me "hate mail."

You totally missed the entire intent of my last post! Read your first post on this thread.
"I propose we as a community let Docbart know we do not tolerate his behavior. We can do this by each sending him an e-mail with a simple message. "Do The Right Thing" Make it the subject and all mail on the same day, say 4-7-00. All those in favor say I."
"I propose we as a community......
I sympathize with you! But you weren't part of the "deals gone bad" with Doc Bart were you? When did you become the rally spokesperson for "this community?" If I remember correctly there are several people who possess the titles of "spokespeople" for this Forum. I'm lookin' at your moniker and it doesn't reflect that status level.
"let Docbart know we do not tolerate his behavior"
That's been done! Again, I think that if a poll were taken "most" of the forumites would tell you that they consider his conduct and behavior lacking of what it takes to be a "Ka-Nife Nut." Look at the other posts made in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly to get an idea.
"Do The Right Thing"
I totally agree with you. Doc Bart needs to do the right thing! But again, look at the other posts made in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. I don't think that anyone heard, saw or smelt Doc Bart running to beat on the Forums doors to proclaim his guilt and come clean. Did you? If I'm not mistaken, the individuals that were part of the "deals gone bad" with Doc Bart asked Spark and or Mike to step in and assist. That happened! I think that Spark reported the outcome of a specific e-mail that Doc Bart sent to him. Hence, posting rights revoked. I know..........not strong enough censure for sure ~ ~ ~ but a step in the right direction.
Latest post..........
"I can hardly believe I have to defend this effort but here goes."
You don't have to defend your effort(s) to me. As with most of your statements this one also permeates the bandwagon and or emotional appeal (ranges from the use of emotionally charged words to name-calling).
"Community-a body of people living in the same place under the same laws. This in a sense is what we are. A member has violated a core law. TRUST! And he has been unrepentant and without defense. He knows he has done wrong. This effort is meant to reinforce that the rest of the community also recognizes his transgressions."
I've followed the other threads. But this above statement makes you a street-corner lawyer, judge and the hangman! Again, when were you appointed as the spokesperson for the "rest of the community."
Yet, "DocBart" isn't phased by your or anyone else's actions. If you had any thoughts (up to 30 Mar 00) that he was going to hang around with the same e-mail address that he used to "rip-off" several of the fine members of "our community" then you were surely mistaken! I think that it's rather humorous that you thought that he was going to wait around until 8 Apr 00 then change his e-mail address. Even in battle there is a thing called, "the element of surprise."

The guy is a POS. Do you know what "POS" means? He's a hump, a Richard, a hole, etc.......
"What are the wronged to do? Find out where Docbart lives and file in small claims court in his district? It's not worth the cost of fileing, travel, time off work etc. Unless GigOne wants to pay for it all in the name of "legal recourse."
And by the way......there are other "legal recourses" other than "small claims courts." But again, another statement that permeates the bandwagon and or emotional appeal. No matter what you may think of "our" laws ~ ~ ~ they're there for all to adhere to (including Doc Bart) not push to the curb when you don't think that justice is done! And then attempt to rally the folks to play your own "hammer~time."
"The point is a show of support for right -v- wrong not harassment."
Your effort and intent is to show your support by "a 1 time show of support" for the wronged ~ ~ ~ no matter what you call it ~ ~ ~ it's still harassment. Did you actually read your dictionary quote? What you're asking others to do is harass our resident "POS."
"My proposal is for a 1 time show of support for the wronged. As a community I think it's the least we can do. You can sit by and do nothing or you can take a stand."
This above quote is called, "false choice or faulty dilemma fallacy?" It's based on the claim that no middle ground exists. For example, "We either fight to win or don't get involved." But, there's also the bandwagon and or emotional appeal laden through the entire statement.
But, ya see there is a space here. I don't have to agree with you 100%. I agree that Doc Bart isn't my choice of "Ka-Nife Nut of da Year."
But, it also means that I definitely disagree with your methods of handling the situation that "you" aren't personally effected by!
I'll repeat this again. DOC BART IS A PIECE OF ........ for what he has done.
But, this DOES NOT give you nor any other Forum member the right to e-mail him, call him, harass him, etc....unless you "personally" have business with him
This is between Doc Bart and the ones that he's taken advantage of!
Not you nor any other forum members!
You started a thread and I made a post to it. My post was what I thought. You don't like what I posted. Ohhhh welllllll. I find this thread rather humorous!!



GaryM.....I'll not debate with you on this issue in this public forum. Post your e-mail address and we can continue this off line.
AGAIN, What we need to do is unite and support the few who were taken advantage of in their fight to "legally" hammer our resident POS ("DocBart")!
It's not my .25 cents worth now...... We're all the way up to .50 cents.....
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GigOne
"Livin' Life - Full Throttle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it."