Does anyone.....thats honest and trustworthy....

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grind blades on the side. The reason i ask is i do not have a good enough grinder to pre heat treat knives that are 1/4", 5/32", 3/16" of an inch. I would send you my blades (about 10) and if you could flat grind some and/or convex some. Please let me know what you would charge (per inch, knife or whatever) and i will send them to you with postage paid returned also. Please only serious people . I know the other member's will let me know The good, the bad and the ugly. I need some help with those thicknesses until i get a great grinder (saving up for a KMG). I have a paragon so the grinds wolud be pre-heat ( dime or nickel ect). I would let you do what you think are best for the different shapes and use.
Thank you ,
And have a great workweek.
Claymoore
P.S. I would like to talk to a real person, because i don't do the texting thing.
 
Claymoore,

This is just a thought, but you can buy premade, heat treated blades very reasonably and customize them yourself. The better job and materials you have, the better price you could get. In that way, you could save up for a grinder. On the other hand, there are numerious plans on the web on how the make your own grinder. I don't have any links handy, but a quick search should yeild quite a few results. Most knifemakers get pretty adept at making their own tools.
 
Thanks David. You are absolutely right and i can get some good 440c pre-made knives that are awesome. But i enjoy cuting out the blade design and getting it ready. I know i could file by hand and do. What i have been doing is buying Aldo's steel and profiling( cutting out and drilling) the problem is i am spending money on belts for a 1x42 that i go through on the thicker blades. 1/8" is not hard but when you get up to 1/4 ect its tough on the 1 speed 1x 42 belt grinder. THE OTHER THING ABOUT SOME OF THESE 440C or puuko (carbon or stainless) blades is when i make a handle for them i always keep them. LOL
Thank you for taking the time to write i really appreciate it.
Claymoore
 
Firstly, this question is better-suited to the Services Wanted sub-forum. ShopTalk isn't meant for soliciting or offering quotes.

But it is a topic that deserves discussion and clarification, especially since it's come up three times in as many weeks. So here's my take on it, having quoted and done jobs like you describe.

Yes, there are honorable people that do custom grinding on other people's custom blanks. The problem lies in keeping costs under control.

Your costs to buy the steel, grind to profile, and HT are basically irrelevant - that's going to be the same regardless of who does the grinding. The cost to have someone else grind the bevels and/or finish the blades is negotiable, and it ain't gonna be cheap. If you can't afford to do it yourself, what makes you think you can afford to pay someone else to do it for you?

Any independent knifemaker with that level of skill and capabilities has serious overhead to consider (equipment, belts, electricity bills, etc.) and is going to expect to be paid for their labor.

Get a couple quotes from makers on the forums, and if those seem pricy, call the nearest machine shop and ask them to quote the same job. Your typical friendly knifemaker will seem like an absolute bargain in comparison.

Not to mention the fact that anyone who can do this sort of work, probably already is doing it for themselves. Folks who are good at grinding their own blades aren't usually begging to grind anyone else's... they tend to be pretty busy.

Now, then... figure in shipping and handling to/from the person doing the grinding. More costs.

It just doesn't add up, especially for a run of 10 blades. You'd be far better off sticking with work you can do yourself.
 
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Wow terrio, you spent some time writing a bunch of crap. Don't answer if i'm in your "wrong" forum spot. Plus I disagree with everything you said. Who made you King, that can speak for everyone else. Get over yourself and piss off.
Claymoore
 
Excellent post, James:thumbup: All very good and valid points, and exactly the type of things I started thinking when I first ready the original post.
 
claymoore said:
Wow terrio, you spent some time writing a bunch of crap. Don't answer if i'm in your "wrong" forum spot. Plus I disagree with everything you said. Who made you King, that can speak for everyone else. Get over yourself and piss off.
Claymoore
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I am "king" of nothing but my own humble house. I do not make the rules here, about what forum is meant for which topic. I do not speak for anyone but myself. I do not insult people who come here looking for answers, or offering them.

I do, however, offer my honest opinions and personal experience when questions are asked and I feel I can help.
 
james terrio said:
Firstly, this question is better-suited to the Services Wanted sub-forum. ShopTalk isn't meant for soliciting or offering quotes.

But it is a topic that deserves discussion and clarification, especially since it's come up three times in as many weeks. So here's my take on it, having quoted and done jobs like you describe.

Yes, there are honorable people that do custom grinding on other people's custom blanks. The problem lies in keeping costs under control.

Your costs to buy the steel, grind to profile, and HT are basically irrelevant - that's going to be the same regardless of who does the grinding. The cost to have someone else grind the bevels and/or finish the blades is negotiable, and it ain't gonna be cheap. If you can't afford to do it yourself, what makes you think you can afford to pay someone else to do it for you?

Any independent knifemaker with that level of skill and capabilities has serious overhead to consider (equipment, belts, electricity bills, etc.) and is going to expect to be paid for their labor.

Get a couple quotes from makers on the forums, and if those seem pricy, call the nearest machine shop and ask them to quote the same job. Your typical friendly knifemaker will seem like an absolute bargain in comparison.

Not to mention the fact that anyone who can do this sort of work, probably already is doing it for themselves. Folks who are good at grinding their own blades aren't usually begging to grind anyone else's... they tend to be pretty busy.

Now, then... figure in shipping and handling to/from the person doing the grinding. More costs.

It just doesn't add up, especially for a run of 10 blades. You'd be far better off sticking with work you can do yourself.
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claymoore said:
Wow terrio, you spent some time writing a bunch of crap....
Plus I disagree with everything you said. Who made you King, that can speak for everyone else. Get over yourself and piss off.
Claymoore
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First that attitude isn't going to help you here.

Second, I agree with everything James said, they are all valid points
Unless money is no object for you and you just want to do it that way
but few people are in that position.

Yes small grinders are a PITA but you will learn more by doing it yourself with what you have.
 
Go over to your post and tell me you are not speaking for others. nuff said to you.
 
Three things for Claymore-

1) Such responses won't be tolerated here. James gave a reasonable response and properly advised you the you were posting the question in the wrong forum. All commerce related requests should be placed in The Exchange - Services Wanted.

2)If "love Jesus", is one of your favorite things. I would suggest you lighten up a bit on your responses.

3) While I don't make the rules here, and I am not King, I am the one who enforces them. Consider this a warning. Future conduct that is contrary to good citizenship or against the rules will be dealt with more severely.
 
I hope your not going to tell people "I made this knife"... You could Honestly say "I designed this knife", or in the case of blanks "I assembled this knife".
Use your grinder, dude...

Or I could do it on my 1x30 (It'd be only a little amateurish) for $892,459,865.99 per inch.
 
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One thing for you baldsmth. Please don't bring Jesus into this, i'm a Christian and not a doormat. All i asked was a simple question. Not expecting the 3rd degree with their answers. As far as a warning , whatever, you can do that. But how about being talked down to. Do you like that? That's the way i felt.
Claymoore
 
Thank you Daniel, i didn't think it cost that much. See that wasn't so hard:thumbup:
Claymoore
 
I don't sell knives it's a hobby so i don't know where that came from. But thanks for the bringing that to the table, kAd .
 
One doesn't have to sell things to misrepresent themselves... I was just saying...

So you like my price? I'll even engrave my name on the bevel for free :rolleyes:
 
i hyave made many knives on a delta 1x42 (supergrit.com has good belts for you )
like you i got a kiln and LN tank before a good grinder and i still to this day think it was the right choice

i would say learn more abot your grinding and how much you can grindf before HT and then cleanup grinding is not too bad post HT
i remember the day i got a real grinder and then messed up 4 blade blanks cause i was not use to how the new grear ground
all things are stepping stones in learning keep yuour mind open
 
thanks Butcher. i'm going to go to that website now. I see what your saying 100 %. See i can get a convex but need to practice to do a flat grind which is hard for me right know. I see how fast some of these guys (people here i'm sure) grind on there nice grinders an just thought i would ask.

clay
 
Don't know why I insist on adding to the thread but James was just trying to help you out and you as a "Christian" flip out, would you act like that in front of your pastor??

but to add to the madness, Darrin Sanders seems like a guy that would step up for you, and btw James is right you'd get better more informative response to your needs in the 'services wanted forum'
 
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