Does Anyone Who Uses A Cane/Staff To Get Around Have Trouble With LE ?

OP: Who told you it would be trouble-free to carry a cane or stick, what are their credentials, and what kind of walking aid did they refer to or think you meant?
 
22MEANTXGUNS22 said:
I'm running into trouble more and more frequently with private security and law enforcement when out and about with a cane or staff/
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Can we get a picture with you and you cane or staff. It's the critical missing piece from this thread.
 
Danke42 said:
No you did not.

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So the OP does not need the cane but is rather a cane self defense enthusiast. Well that's just great.

OP, if you are not in serious need of a cane then stop using one. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. The reason you are getting hassled is because you are doing something very socially out of place. Also, you are putting unnecessary negative attention on people with canes that need them. Think about it. I can just hear a LEO say to his/her partner "remember that creepy guy we stopped the other day that was carrying a weaponized cane for no reason? Should we be looking more at all canes as weapons?"

You're like the guy who walks around with an AR because you "can" and because it's your "right". Do something out of the norm and expect attention.
 
I have needed a cane some days for a few different reasons over the 18 years. i'm now 61 its a Brazo's, hand turned out of Maple with a Paduak handle. I'm relatively strong and muscular in appearance and having my Maple Cane has people opening doors and saying, Oh, you go first. including a few Security types and never a hassle with any LE people.
It could double as a war club if need be.
Present yourself as a Gentleman and act like one & you will not have issues.
 
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So the OP does not need the cane but is rather a cane self defense enthusiast. Well that's just great.

OP, if you are not in serious need of a cane then stop using one. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. The reason you are getting hassled is because you are doing something very socially out of place. Also, you are putting unnecessary negative attention on people with canes that need them. Think about it. I can just hear a LEO say to his/her partner "remember that creepy guy we stopped the other day that was carrying a weaponized cane for no reason? Should we be looking more at all canes as weapons?"

You're like the guy who walks around with an AR because you "can" and because it's your "right". Do something out of the norm and expect attention.
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Good post!:thumbsup:

I love the analogy of the AR15 crowd. they abuse the privilege then wonder why they are getting a hassle. A cane/walking stick is one thing, but this guy is taking it past a limit.

If he's that concerned with self defense, and he lives in Texas, why not just get his CCW? Texas has actually made it easier in the past year to get the license. They've lowered the cost, and eased the qualification so you can shoot it with a .22 if you want. Walking down he street with a Gandalf staff is not the way to go. Theres the old saying that the nail that stands up, gets hammered down.

After watching a few of his videos, I can guess he's not just walking down the street with a cane and getting hassled. Maybe he's got a wizard hat on to go with the welders goggles?
 
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I was diagnosed with Plantar's fasciitis back in 2013. I have a long history of seeing my Dr. and a podiatrist about the matter. I was told by both of them as well as the ADA's hotline, that NONE of this is or should be an issue (I didn't want to mention this as to not offend any potential LE or LE supporters on here, but I have filed complaints with the ADA in the past over these incidents and wonder if this is the source of these incidents increasing). The videos that you selected to post in this thread are several years old and quite literally have NOTHING to do with the subject at hand (why you chose older videos of me when I was thinner and not as slow moving as opposed to more recent ones where my weight gain and limp is more apparent, I don't quite know). I came here simply to see if what I was going through was unique to my municipality, but I clearly got my answer in the form of being told that personal opinions on my age, attire, appearance, and old youtube videos of me just playing around are somehow more relevant than my ADA rights, which, with respect, was an answer I probably could have gotten by just asking locals about this, as opposed to an online community of people from all over.

To those who responded and have never had to deal with mobility impairment, when you end up having to use a cane to get around at a young age, something that is easy to overlook should be considered, and that's dignity. Being accused of merely pretending to have a limp, is not pleasant. Having to struggle with things like carrying something through a door because you got a cane in one hand and your other hand full, is not pleasant. Having to have someone drive you somewhere that you would normally drive to, or even walk to, because your foot on some days hurts too much to be driving or standing on, not pleasant. Leaving your house and not knowing if someone is going to target you for a crime because criminals tend to favor people they consider weak and defenseless, not pleasant. Weight gain due to not being able to exercise and having to take things a little slower than you're used to, not pleasant. I don't quite know how to explain it, but there was a gentleman here who by his own admission, chose to use to Blackthorn cane rather than some other cane that was not very aesthetically pleasing, and it made the transition a bit more bearable to him. Well that just about sums up why I would rather use Cold Steel's walking aids rather than something you would get at Walgreen's or CVS. They look nicer, handle better, feel more comfortable, and get alot of compliments and questions as to where I got them, and in the end, it takes just enough of the sting off to make living with PF a little more bearable to live with. I personally don't feel that's too much to ask, but as with many topics, opinions may vary...
 
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22MEANTXGUNS22 said:
I was diagnosed with Plantar's fasciitis back in 2013. I have a long history of seeing my Dr. and a podiatrist about the matter. I was told by both of them as well as the ADA's hotline, that NONE of this is or should be an issue (I didn't want to mention this as to not offend any potential LE or LE supporters on here, but I have filed complaints with the ADA in the past over these incidents and wonder if this is the source of these incidents increasing). The videos that you selected to post in this thread are several years old and quite literally have NOTHING to do with the subject at hand (why you chose older videos of me when I was thinner and not as slow moving as opposed to more recent ones where my weight gain and limp is more apparent, I don't quite know). I came here simply to see if what I was going through was unique to my municipality, but I clearly got my answer in the form of being told that personal opinions on my age, attire, appearance, and old youtube videos of me just playing around are somehow more relevant than my ADA rights, which, with respect, was an answer I probably could have gotten by just asking locals about this, as opposed to an online community of people from all over.

To those who responded and have never had to deal with mobility impairment, when you end up having to use a cane to get around at a young age, something that is easy to overlook should be considered, and that's dignity. Being accused of merely pretending to have a limp, is not pleasant. Having to struggle with things like carrying something through a door because you got a cane in one hand and your other hand full, is not pleasant. Having to have someone drive you somewhere that you would normally drive to, or even walk to, because your foot on some days hurts too much to be driving or standing on, not pleasant. Leaving your house and not knowing if someone is going to target you for a crime because criminals tend to favor people they consider weak and defenseless, not pleasant. Weight gain due to not being able to exercise and having to take things a little slower than you're used to, not pleasant. I don't quite know how to explain it, but there was a gentleman here who by his own admission, chose to use to Blackthorn cane rather than some other cane that was not very aesthetically pleasing, and it made the transition a bit more bearable to him. Well that just about sums up why I would rather use Cold Steel's walking aids rather than something you would get at Walgreen's or CVS. They look nicer, handle better, feel more comfortable, and get alot of compliments and questions as to where I got them, and in the end, it takes just enough of the sting off to make living with PF a little more bearable to live with. I personally don't feel that's too much to ask, but as with many topics, opinions may vary...
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Oh holy Jesus and his mother Mary! Plantar fasciitis????

Come on pal. You don't need a Gandalf staff for some minor foot condition from wearing cheap shoes. After I learned to walk again on my smashed up foot, I got job training from the VA and spent the next 30 years as a machinist. That meant being on my feet a lot cranking on a Bridgeport mill or Hardinge lathe 8 hours a day. I had a bout of it back in the 80's and the podiatrist told me to ditch the cheap work boots and go get some New Balance or Brooks athletic shoes and shove some Spenco or Super Feet insoles in them. Know what? The plantar fasciitis went away and never came back. Give me break pal.

Oh man! This whole thread has been bogus. You're looking for justification for carrying something outlandish in an urban environment, and you're using a minor foot problem for that justification. Most machinists I know have had a brush with plantar fasciitis at one time or another. Anyone standing a whole workday on re-enforced concrete floors have had it. Adding some cushy insoles and quality footwear beats it. Walking actually is therapy for it by stretching the tendons and tissues. Blame your weight gain on it??? Try cutting back on your food and get a healthy diet and go swim, or bike or rowing machine, or any other excersize that doesn't involve walking if you so desire. Exercise stationary bikes don't cost a lot, and you can use one while watching any of the videos on that wall of videos you show on your web site. Anyone with that big a collection of videos spends way too much time on their butt.

Never had to deal with mobility impairment???

Try laying in a hospital bed and having three operations in a month and a half on your foot, and then having to learn to walk again because that foot with the steel rods and pins in it doesn't work like it used to. Try dealing with the rest of your life with pain issues, really limited mobility issues when your kids are learning to ride a bike, play ball, and being a soccer dad on a cane. Or walk your daughter down the isle on her wedding day on a cane and trying not to trip on anything.

And hell yes I carry a rustic blackthorn stick instead of a old fogy cane. And yet I haven't had but one or two idiots give me a hassle from 1971 to now. The only reason I carry the rustic stick is pure vanity and my Irish background. The stick was given to me when I came home from Walter Reed Army Hospital in D.C. by my Uncle Pat. The has absolutely nothing to do with some guy carrying some Cold Steel staff that stands out on a city street like sore thumb. I make my own sticks for a hobby and enjoy the hunting, digging up, and sanding and shaping the root knob, and staining the stick until I have a creation of my own to use. For some odd reason I've been able to pass right through all kinds of security in and around my hometown of Washington D.C., the British Museum in London, the Louvre in Paris, and all the airlines I've flown on since 1971.

Plantar fasciitis. Wow. Now I really have heard it all. You're an insult to anyone who has really gotten screwed up and needs a cane for real.
 
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22MEANTXGUNS22 said:
I was diagnosed with Plantar's fasciitis back in 2013. I have a long history of seeing my Dr. and a podiatrist about the matter. I was told by both of them as well as the ADA's hotline, that NONE of this is or should be an issue (I didn't want to mention this as to not offend any potential LE or LE supporters on here, but I have filed complaints with the ADA in the past over these incidents and wonder if this is the source of these incidents increasing). The videos that you selected to post in this thread are several years old and quite literally have NOTHING to do with the subject at hand (why you chose older videos of me when I was thinner and not as slow moving as opposed to more recent ones where my weight gain and limp is more apparent, I don't quite know). I came here simply to see if what I was going through was unique to my municipality, but I clearly got my answer in the form of being told that personal opinions on my age, attire, appearance, and old youtube videos of me just playing around are somehow more relevant than my ADA rights, which, with respect, was an answer I probably could have gotten by just asking locals about this, as opposed to an online community of people from all over.

To those who responded and have never had to deal with mobility impairment, when you end up having to use a cane to get around at a young age, something that is easy to overlook should be considered, and that's dignity. Being accused of merely pretending to have a limp, is not pleasant. Having to struggle with things like carrying something through a door because you got a cane in one hand and your other hand full, is not pleasant. Having to have someone drive you somewhere that you would normally drive to, or even walk to, because your foot on some days hurts too much to be driving or standing on, not pleasant. Leaving your house and not knowing if someone is going to target you for a crime because criminals tend to favor people they consider weak and defenseless, not pleasant. Weight gain due to not being able to exercise and having to take things a little slower than you're used to, not pleasant. I don't quite know how to explain it, but there was a gentleman here who by his own admission, chose to use to Blackthorn cane rather than some other cane that was not very aesthetically pleasing, and it made the transition a bit more bearable to him. Well that just about sums up why I would rather use Cold Steel's walking aids rather than something you would get at Walgreen's or CVS. They look nicer, handle better, feel more comfortable, and get alot of compliments and questions as to where I got them, and in the end, it takes just enough of the sting off to make living with PF a little more bearable to live with. I personally don't feel that's too much to ask, but as with many topics, opinions may vary...
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Wtf? Seriously bro... ADA for plantar fakeitis? I am fully disabled and sometimes have to use a cane. You say you were diagnosed in 2013 and apparently its fully taken over your “not pleasant” life, yet this video you say is old was in 2017, four years after your diagnoses as you state. This is bs all the way around and to try and justify it as you are disabled is messed up man... apparently you are attention seeking, so you got it and now complain what type of attention it is. Damn, this is sad! Get some Dr. Scholl’s and stop living off the checks you get for your “disability”.
 
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I've had plantar fasciitis for years, never had to use a cane. The doctor told me to wear good quality shoes, end of story, never an issue in 20 years. If you really have had PF all these years and actually need a cane, you really need to see a better doctor....
I have degeneration of the vertebrae in my lower back as well as neck and upper back issues, some neuropathy in the left arm and both feet, all resulting from being hit by a drunk driver some 20 years ago, never needed a cane...
I worked for years cutting trees and doing other highway maintenance and repair work even after the drunk driver crash and the PF started, have not had to use a cane yet.
I walk every day sometimes 4 or 5 miles with the dog, ride a mountain bike etc, I don't see the problem.....PF has never bothered me one bit.
I carry a titanium walking stick that I made a while back when walking on the trail but only because I choose to..... loose dogs and unsavory types are sometimes on the trail, and cops are a half hour away.....

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Weight gain due to lack of exercise? Put down the nachos and beer......
You have a video posted Sept of this year, you don't look much different than the 2017 video, and don't seem to have any issues walking either...

Disabled? Really?

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22MEANTXGUNS22 said:
I don't want to say anything that might be considered offensive or politically incorrect, just going to say that I'm running into trouble more and more frequently with private security and law enforcement when out and about with a cane or staff. I was told when I first started using one that there should be no problems in terms of people denying me entry to a place for having one, or people demanding an explanation as to why I need one, or any kind of hassle for using one in general, yet it's becoming more and more frequent. Just trying to figure out if I was the only one, and if this has happened to others, how they handled it.
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I require a cane and am always treated quite nicely by Law Enforcement and TSA, in fact they often go out of there way to try and help.. Happy Holidays!
 
Yeah...

Looks like your sob story isn't getting you any more traction dude.

I'll chime in as another former cane user who has NEVER been hassled because of it.

Split tibia from a "training accident" in the USMC caused me to rely on a cane for most of my 20's...

Fast forward to about 3 years ago to plantar fascia damage in both feet.

Heel That Pain (branded) insoles completely relieved the issue in my left foot and dramatically reduced pain in my right foot.

I'm on my third injection in my right foot; they've been giving me about 6 to 8 months of relief...

Likely surgery in a year or so.


Keep on whining though and think that you're going to suddenly sway the crowd to support your stance (support your stance; Dad joke point?) when there are so many others here who've had it much worse than you with no issues out of security or LEO.

You sought the opinion of a mostly anonymous crowd who have done nothing but given it to you straight.

Get off your stupid high horse and quit acting like a pariah.
 
To the O.P.-

You have the unbelievable gall to label yourself as disabled, and complain about pain and inconvenience of having someone drive you because your feet hurt?????

We're both in Texas, so you come with me down to the VA hospital. We're gonna sit by the prosthetics department and watch the young guys coming and going, that are missing whole parts of their bodies. I do volunteer work there, mentoring disabled vets from depression. Being a partly disabled vet, I've been there so I can counsel them somewhat on going on. From what I've seen and heard, don't you dare call yourself disabled. Not in my hearing.

Let me tell you about my friend Don. Don, like me, is a Vietnam vet. But unlike me, Don came home with a bit less than he went over with. He got hit in the right arm and the bullet shattered his bone so bad, the arm was hanging on by a few shreds of meat and tendons. The medic did a field amputation of what was left, and Don went on live the rest of his life with his right arm stopping a few inches short of his right elbow. Yet, he got training, and went on to a full life working full time and becoming an office manager for a lumber company. He has the great sense of humor to adapt the nickname "The one Arm Bandit." Let me see you go one whole day putting your right hand in your pocket and not take it out for anything. ANYTHING. Go a whole day with one hand. Lets see how you do.

Or let me tell you about a young guy named James. I helped him get past some depression. He had a good reason for being depressed. Just short of his 20th birthday, he got both legs blown off above the knees by an IED in Afghanistan. At 19 years old he got screwed royally. He's in a wheelchair leaning to get around as he puts it, "a semi mobil cripple." He's got a reason to be a bit depressed. Try to imagine a life, a year out from high school, serving in the army, and getting both legs blown off. That's someone I'd say has mobility problems. Yet you belly ache over your feet hurting and claim to be 'disabled'????

No. Don't you dare to call yourself disabled. I know some really disabled people, and they are trying like hell to keep on keeping on with what they have left. Don't you dare to call yourself disabled!!
 
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