This is true. A thick-bladed knife's strength can only fully be realized in a fixed-blade configuration; where the frame(handle) is not the Achilles' heel.
Yes, can only be "fully realized." We're not trying to fully realize it. I didn't say a thick bladed folder was as strong as a knife could be, I said it was stronger than a folding hunter. The fact that a fixed blade is inherently stronger (which I mentioned in my original post on this subject) doesn't mean that there's no room for strength improvement in certain tasks. I've already mentioned wood work involving the tip, drilling, etc. Precisely the use that bent up the tip of my bent 110, and which the SR-1 does far better; the fact that it does it far better does not make the 110 a bad knife. The fact that the 110 is better at making fuzz sticks does not make the SR-1 a bad knife. What on earth is the point you're trying to make?
Prying with the tip of a 110 will lead to tip loss. There's no doubt about it. The 110's blade is a hollow-ground, swedged clip point. There's just not enough metal at the tip to prevent this if it is used as a pry tool.
Yep...and the fact that there's less material at the 110's tip also makes it better for digging for splinters, as I mentioned.
LionSteel's SR-1 has an ingot steel blade and a one-piece, sintered titanium frame. My money says the frame will snap around the pivot area if the blade is put in a vise with the intention to flex it laterally by the handle. Are there any titanium frame-locks which utilize non-powder frames or frame halves
Ummm, yes MOST titanium frame knives are made with frame halves. I'm afraid you've lost me with the assertion that being machined out of one piece instead of being several pieces screwed together is an inherent weakness. Regardless, are you actually claiming that the 1/16" brass halves and 1/8" brass pivot of a folding hunter are stronger than the 5/32" titanium walls and 3/16" stainless pivot of the SR-1?
***Amendment---okay, to be fair, the thickness of the Brass halves of the 110 at the pivot is actually right around 3/16" (more on one 110 I measured, slightly less on the other). Still, though, I'll readily stack 5/32" of titanium (sintered or otherwise) against 3/16" of brass any day of the week...especially when the structural piece is still the aforementioned 1/8" brass rod.
What's the point of a thick-bladed folder if the handle will fail first? A folder with a thinner blade, sans the tip, is still usable. A folder with a thick blade and a broken frame is not usable.
At this point, I'm not sure what the point is of continuing to respond since I've already answered every question you've posed here but you apparently either don't read or immediately forget. Nevertheless, here goes:
Once again, the thicker, more rigid blade/point does things certain things better than a thinner, weaker blade/point. Some examples are drilling in wood for fire making, splitting materials apart (try to remember, hard though it apparently is, that "prying" doesn't necessarily mean busting open a bank vault, and can be as innocuous as separating the sides a black walnut...oh yes indeed, that's prying). Other examples include having to push on the spine of the knife for long periods of time doing either carving or scraping work, where a thick spine is far more comfortable for your thumb than a thin one. Or popping a large, industrial staple out of a box. Now remember, these are just examples--let your imagination run wild.
And finally---remember the whole thing where we talked about the tendency of people to go to ridiculous extremes in order to argue against heavy duty folders? Who, other than you, is talking about putting the thing in a vice and tugging on it? As to the fact that the handle will fail first if pushed to its limit, again why must you jump from regular, real knife use for the 110 to catastrophic failure for a heavier knife under stupidly extreme circumstances? The 110's handle would fail under the same treatment (or likely before). I mean, the stick tang of a Kabar (or a Buck fixed blade, for that matter) will likely fail before the much wider blade in prying use too. Do you wonder what the point is of those as well?
Please, don't read this as acerbicness--I'm really, genuinely confused by what you're trying to get across here. The CSAR-T, SR-1, Hinderer XM18 and other such knives
are stronger than a 110 is. Not because they're "better" knives but because they're designed and built differently. The 110 is better at slicing than those knives are. Not because it's "better" but because its designed and built differently.
Work really hard on getting this point---nobody is saying that a heavy duty folder is as strong as a heavy duty fixed blade. There IS a middle ground. For that matter, why carry a 110 when there are thinner, lighter, more capable slicing blades out there? What's the use of that big, honkin' 1/8" thick blade?
To make an analogy of this conversation, a 3/4 ton truck is capable of hauling/towing more than a compact truck. The compact truck owner might say that, "Well, if you REALLY need to haul something then a 3/4 ton could never carry as much as a semi-truck. I just don't get the point of the 3/4 ton." I would tend to think that compact truck owner actually does understand, but is just in the mood to argue.
