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Does this look like a knife that is "Never carried or used"?
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if you bought it 2nd hand, looks pre"owned" like/near new condition to me... as far as the prior owner carrying or using it, technically there is no evidence of him carrying it or using it 
. the term using is subjective though... it may mean cutting things to him and it may mean opening and closing to you.
. the term using is subjective though... it may mean cutting things to him and it may mean opening and closing to you.I tried to take pictures of the fuzz between the liners and the excess oil all in the works but my cell just won't do it.
if you bought it 2nd hand, looks pre"owned" like/near new condition to me... as far as the prior owner carrying or using it, technically there is no evidence of him carrying it or using it
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Looks like the metal bits have got some of the finish worn off; Screws, liners, stop pin... Looks like it's been carried to me. I might not be concerned about it if the price was right and the blade doesn't show any wear, but that's up to you anyway.
again, its arguable... that couldve accumulated while sitting atop his dresser for several months or even out of box. who knows
my point is, if it was purchased 2nd hand it looks to be in pre-owned like/near new condition. did he say it was new? if so, thats a different story. never carried never used is a term i see loosely used often in the exchange by sellers that should be more clear in their listings. often times it means theyve never carried it outside the house or used it to cut anything significant (factory edge still apparent). ive received a few in the same condition above but its never really bothered me as long as the edge is still factory sharp unsharpened and theres no noticeable scratches dings or dents.
if it bothers you or if you feel youve been swindled, i would contact the seller. if youre going to use it anyway and saved a couple bucks on a practically new knife... enjoy your new bone collector
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You agreed to pay an amount based upon the seller's description of "never carried or used" and received something in a condition other than described. I would say it would not be unreasonable to expect the seller to accept a return for a full refund including the return shipping costs or a price adjustment. Have you brought this issue or this thread to the attention of the seller and, if so, have you received a response? It is certainly possible that the seller did not intend to deceive you and may be unaware of the signs of use. Perhaps he never used or carried the knife that he purchased from another party that he believed to be NIB and never inspected the knife carefully. Then again, he might be trying to pass off a light user as NIB.
I have contacted the seller and attached this link and am now waiting for a response.
Jaiofspam, while I appreciate your input, it sounds like a chicken sh&t justification to accept being possibly/probably screwed over. I asked just to make sue I wasn't seeing more than was really there but it is clearly obvious this knife was definitely carried a bit. Below is my Contego that has been carried 5 days a week, 12 hours a day for the past month, a clear difference.
Jaiofspam, while I appreciate your input, it sounds like a chicken sh&t justification to accept being possibly/probably screwed over. I asked just to make sue I wasn't seeing more than was really there but it is clearly obvious this knife was definitely carried a bit. Below is my Contego that has been carried 5 days a week, 12 hours a day for the past month, a clear difference.
Never used is not a subjective term. That is like saying a meal called uneaten is subjective- it either is or is not. Never carried is the same way. I can see fibbing a little if the knife shows literally no wear, but any wear instantly places it in the used catagory. Lightly used is rather subjective, but that is a different story.
hah, you'd be surprised how often it happens if you purchase 2nd hand enough my friend
. it could mean hes personally never used it or it could mean its never been used to cut anything more than a sheet of paper... what really determines/defines actual "use" as he clearly did not say it was "new, never used/untouched/unmolested"? never carried never used does not translate to brand new in box... it could but in this case it clearly doesnt and thats what i meant about it being subjective. clearly, the seller failed to accurately describe the knife he sold and it all boils down to the buyer being unsatisfied with the transaction which is totally understandable. im not trying to defend the guy or impose a chicken shit excuse onto the OP... im just curious to see what the seller has to say and wanted to provide some food for thought for those who purchase from the exchange.
Hopefully given a little time the seller can work something out to make it right with you. I always try and avoid jumping to conclusions too early.
I got a money order from a guy with good feedback. When I took it to the bank they called the number and claimed the MO was a fake. Hard to believe from a guy with good feedback. Problem was the PO hadn't updated the MO database over a holiday. So simply waiting rather than taking the guy to task in TGTBTU worked just fine in my case.
I hope you also have a similar positive outcome with your recent exchange. Keep us posted.
lol its definitely far from new. if you chose not to specify it being flicked 1,000x and i failed to inquire as to what detailed condition it is in its entirety, as long as you didnt state its in "new" condition and there is no damage or excessive wear i see no intended foul or malice. am i gonna be happy? is it worth the couple bucks saved? depends on who i am. its subjective as to whether the seller or buyer thinks its used or not, whats the difference between opening 1x and 1000x? use is use, or is it? is it a recommended way of doing business? i wouldnt advocate it and this is what usually results when sellers fail to list their items in explicit detail. on that note, cavaet emptor on the 2nd hand market online... its a reality of things. hopefully this ends well with the seller in agreeing in discounting or refunding the buyers money in exchange for the knife as it was received in what he felt was unsatisfactory condition. i advise those who purchase from new/unestablished/zero feedback members (hell even established sellers) to ask lots of questions about the knife, why they are selling it, additional pics and understand the inherit risk of physically not being able to inspect the knife in person.
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Yes. It's a machine. It has moving parts. If it has been operated 1000, times, it has been "used."
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