Don't know what to think about this.

These khuks...may not go on forever. You simply do not know. But I can guess there will come a time when horn and even wood is hard to find on a tool, and handlabor so expensive it is a antique luxury. Machines and computers will continue to make fine knives and tools in the future. We might even get some metals made in space, right? But who can say how long a hand forged khuk will be available of this quality and authenticity?
It's like a gift from the past.

And there is a cost/use equation, isn't there? Something useful that does not cost so much as to be too expensive to damage?

munk
 
Personally, I'd love to try out a khuk made of newfangled 'metallic glass'. The stuff is astoundingly strong, and will take an edge literally one molecule thick (ouchie!). It's already used in top-grade golf clubs, so the expense can't be too hideous... and improvements are being made all the time.
 
yep, one more busse in the world makes little difference, even to busse (they all look the same to me anyhow), one more kukhri from HI means a family eats for a month. no brainer.

Who said anything about Busse?

If you are only buying knives as a charitable gesture, then why not just give the people some money? No brainer.
 
Busses?

I don't want to go there. They have a reputation and the only bad thing I heard about them is about their price.
 
Who said anything about Busse?

If you are only buying knives as a charitable gesture, then why not just give the people some money? No brainer.



intending to carry on the thought of cybrok in the preceding post, i was just comparing an overpriced standard knife each exactly the same made out of a secret supposedly super-alloy, with a paranoidly fanatical following whose purchase just adds a bit more profit to an already wealthy person as opposed to a person who is lower down on the social scale in his own community and may not be eating tommorrow who happens to make hand made knives out of recycled car springs and does it darned well too...

if i am buying a knife, i know whose i'd buy. the busse may be a decent knife, i'd rather have one i can use. if a purchase benefits someone who needs it more that the busse dealers, all the better. if you are a busse nut, and i have offended you - tough. i don't buy them, more for you.

giving people money does not help them. encouraging them to earn a good living by working does. the old buy a man a fish feeds him today, buy him the tools to fish himself feeds him for a lifetime. too many people think 'just give them money' and then we have a large welfare state where enterprise and hard work is punished and sloth and laziness rewarded by free everything as a 'right'

who is the 'no brainer' ?
 
intending to carry on the thought of cybrok in the preceding post, i was just comparing an overpriced standard knife each exactly the same with a paranoidly fanatical following whose purchase just adds a bit more profit to an already wealthy person as opposed to a person who is lower down on the social scale in his own community and may not be eating tommorrow who happens to make hand made knives out of recycled car springs and does it darned well too...

if i am buying a knife, i know whose i'd buy. the busse may be a decent knife, i'd rather have one i can use. if a purchase benefits someone who needs it more that the busse dealers, all the better. if you are a busse nut, and i have offended you - tough. i don't buy them, more for you.

giving people money does not help them. encouraging them to earn a good living by working does. the old buy a man a fish feeds him today, buy him the tools to fish himself feeds him for a lifetime. too many people think 'just give them money' and then we have a large welfare state where enterprise and hard work is punished and sloth and laziness rewarded by free everything as a 'right'

who is the 'no brainer' ?

Your prejudice and ignorance is worn on your sleeve, yet you are calling me a "no brainer"? (using the term out of context does not lend you any credibility)

Yes, you have a point about "teach a man to fish" etc. . And considering where you live, I would say that you know a thing or two about large welfare states. . .

Busse knives are great, but my question was who is talking about Busse? Nobody was until you ran around spewing mindless invective.

I like Busse knives, sure. I also use them- so I don't understand why you say you would "rather have one you can use".

I have no intent to argue Busse VS HI with you, since your opinion is based solely on ignorance. (and I am a fan of both companies)

I also like HI products, which is why I hang out on this forum. They are great knives. How does trying to trash on knives from another good, reputable company make HI look good? It only makes you look bad.

Buying a knife because it contributes money to the poor is fine and dandy, but not much different than straight up donation.

getting a regular handout from the government is what creates welfare states. getting an occasional "bonus" from an anonymous well wisher does not.

Buy HI for whatever reason you want, but my point is, you are first and foremost getting a quality tool. It is only due to the logistics of the HI company that the money gets to the makers. So why not toss some money to HI to give the workers? That would not be welfare- it would be a bonus. . .

I Never said get the addresses of the workers and send them each a welfare check every month. . .
 
the HI Forum has given money directly in various ways. But it is important to note the Kamis themselves request work rather than charity, or a 'bonus'. They've said so.

I'm glad many people use there Busse knives. Many do not. Busse is great. Busse and HI have had a historic friendship.
We find a way to talk about these things without personal insults.

Kinda put a downer on the thread.


munk
 
Ok, guys, no more flames. Both companies make great knives. I don't own any Busse, but I've heard absolutely nothing but good things. By the same token, there's nothing wrong with admitting that it makes you feel good inside to be helping good people when you buy a knife. It's not charity, it's people working hard at what they do well and being duly rewarded. This is great place where we can all celebrate owning everything from antique swords from Indonesia, to some "awesome" tactical toothbrushes, to the best khuks I've ever touched, to the fine craftsmanship that is Busse, and for all kinds of reasons. We can all agree that we've found something amazing here, and civility and thoughtful dialogue are a HUGE part of what makes this place special.

We're all good folks, and there is more common ground than we sometimes remember. :)

Chris
 
it was never my intent to get personal about anything, if anyone thought it was a personal attack on them, it was not intended as such, and took care not to mention anyone directly, and though i am sorry that someone might get so incensed as to make in reply an attack on me personally, i will try to remain above that level.
 
Quote from Munk,
"It's like a gift from the past".

Thats one of the main reasons I enjoy and appreciate HI knives so much.

The lineage and tradition put into these HI blades makes them special in my mind.
That's in addition to the outstanding performance they offer, regardless of what the "modern" perception is of a "good" knive.

Just my view.
 
Who said the Gurkhas weren't at the Falklands?If they weren't there then who were all those Nepalese gentlemen running around in DPM and armed with SLR's? Tourists??? I am lost for words...but the phrase 'duh' comes to mind.
 
I work with some Brits at Wright-Patt AFB. The Gurkhas *were* in the Falklands. Period.

Some threads should probably simply drift away.
 
There were interviews post war with Argentinian troops about how they reacted to the news that there were Ghurkas out there in the foggy night.


They left.
 
The Gurkhas were in the Falklands, they were gutted they didnt see combat though, the Argis kept surrendering when they heard the "Prisoner killing, Drug crazed canibals & headhunters" were coming. Guess there own propaganda backfired. {obviously they didnt surrunder to the Gurkhas.;) }

Ive Never heard of them bieng cannibals in the other wars! :D

They had C.14 casulties & one fatality there.

13 due to a stray artilary shell, & one Brit officer shot in the head as he stepped out of the mess tent & walked back to his own, very late one night inside main camp.


Spiral
 
I missed the link (on this 2-month old thread) but have read enough to know what was selling. The reason the price was so high is that it is an orig. CS in San Mai. Say what you like, those things are cutting fiends. Yes, no cho, and the wrong grind, but fantastic blades. Wish I had snagged one when they first came out but at a SRP of $300 I didn't bite. Still shouldn't sell for much more than that now IMO.

CS stopped making them because they were too pricy and went to a satin with a different steel and then the black coated ones. I have all of them but the one in question and they are good working knives and very sharp. Once I found HI though I understood the difference.

Worst thing about them is they stick in the work while chopping. There are at least two guys on the web that I have found that do a brisk business giving them a convex edge and nicer handles.

Norm
 
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