Downfall of the 101?

Discussion in 'Buck Knives' started by Eli Chaps, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Basic Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    First, I'm admittedly way late to the 101 party. I didn't even know this was a thing until a couple months ago. When I saw it, I thought it was a great idea. The 110 is so ergonomically fantastic that I figured that the fixed blade would allay the concerns some folks would have about gunking up a folder for tasks like game processing.

    But now I see it is discontinued. Obviously it wasn't a market hit which I think is a shame.

    I'm just curious why you all think it didn't stick? Too old school to get enough early traction to make sales?

    Apologies if this has been covered. Did a search and didn't find much.
     
  2. TAH

    TAH Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 3, 2001
    I liked it, but always questioned why the blade had a kick.
     
  3. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Basic Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    I'd reckon streamlined manufacturing. No need to change CNC programs and all the blanks can go to whichever end knife.
     
  4. TAH

    TAH Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 3, 2001
    You're probably right, but never-the-less, it caught my eye every time I saw a photo of the knife.
     
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  5. Lesknife

    Lesknife Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Mar 31, 2018
    For me the design and blade to handle ratio is fitting for a folding knife to accommodate the blade fitting into the handle but on a fixed blade I prefer a handle that’s not longer than is necessary and with a bit of a guard. I think if the handle were more like the 112 with the forward bolster having that choil, ie the it would have more balance and eye appeal but that’s just me.
     
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  6. Lesknife

    Lesknife Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Mar 31, 2018
    Here’s a comparison of the 110, 117 and the 112. As you can see the 110 and 117 are the same overall length but the blade to handle ratio is much different. The 117 has a 4.5 inch blade with the handle the same length of the 112. BAAA2014-9CD6-4657-BAD5-C811C05F43BF.jpeg
     
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  7. st8yd

    st8yd Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 6, 2009
    Agreed Id have like to have seen the 113 handle with a 426 drop point blade.
     
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  8. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Basic Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    Thanks. Interesting observations. I know a lot of folks are very attuned to the blade to handle ratio but I guess I've never been among them. For me, it's about the overall handling for the intended usage so I don't care if a knife has, say a short blade, so long as it feels good and performs.

    It's funny how we all see things so uniquely to ourselves as now that I've started this thread I find myself fondling a 110 and honestly asking myself if I'd want in a fixed blade. Feels great but for me, maybe the handle weight is more than I'd like in a fixed blade. I'd never seriously contemplated it before.
     
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  9. Makael

    Makael Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 17, 2015
    The 110 was designed to be about as strong as a fixed blade. The 101 doesn't make sense to me but applaud Buck for building it.
     
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  10. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Basic Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    As I give it real critical thought, I guess that's where I come down. At first in my mind it just seemed like such a no-brainer, but yeah, I see it now and agree.

    So yeah about them awesome 102's... :D
     
  11. Your Name Goes Here

    Your Name Goes Here

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    Mar 28, 2018
    I'm hoping someone knows the answer - What year was the 101 first made ? And when was it discontinued ?
     
  12. afishhunter

    afishhunter

    Oct 21, 2014
    The 101 might have been a success as a barehead lockback version of the 110?

    I know Schrade (USA) made and BTI Schrade makes the 6OT, which is naught but a barehead version of the 7OT.

    I suspect more than a few decided to just get the sheath and carry their 110 open?
     
  13. Lesknife

    Lesknife Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Mar 31, 2018
    When they first came out I gave it some consideration but I wanted to know how it carried before buying one so I left my 110 open and using a sheath from a old no name knife to fit. I tried it for handling, drawing and returning to the sheath and it felt awkward compared to my 117 and 192. I also noticed that when squatting down it tipped back and partially fell out. I think the handle weight and length made it out of balance for a regular sheath. The scout style sheath might elevate that problem because it is deeper set. After awhile I decided that the 110 is best suited for a folding lockback compact carry as originally designed.
     
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  14. Your Name Goes Here

    Your Name Goes Here

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    Mar 28, 2018
    Did a little research - please correct me if I am wrong:

    2016

    First year 2016 - release around August.

    First production runs were numbered.


    2017

    First year listed in the Buck Catalog 2017.


    2019

    Discontinued. The last year of production of the regular issued Buck 101 is 2019.


    Special Release

    2020

    February - made at the Buck Knives factory by Joe Houser. Only 24 made.
    420HC Stainless Steel, Clip Blade, Maple burl wood handle, brass bolster, with ironwood and bloody jasper spacers. Fold over leather sheath. COA. Release date February 19, 2020.

    I have also seen these same materials in a Possible, Maybe 1 Of 1 knife (both knives look the same) - the difference is the spine of the blade has file work. COA dated February 5, 2020.
     
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  15. Old Hunter

    Old Hunter Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    Buck makes a lot of knives that I have no interest in and the Buck 101 was in that category for me. The Buck 110 itself is a compromise - a solid, high quality hunters knife in a folding/lock back design that can be carried comfortably on the hip in lieu of a fixed blade. To do that they had to have a robust knife that balances differently than a traditional fixed blade - you accept the compromises to obtain the convenience. If you are going to carry a fixed blade why not just choose a 100 series that gives you as much blade in a more ergonomic package? I just never saw the charm of a 110 remade as a fixed blade. OH
     
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  16. BuckShack

    BuckShack Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 19, 2015
    I think the 101 is just misunderstood. It was promoted as a fixed blade 110 so everyone is trying to replace their favorite "fixed blade" or their "folding hunter". Why can't it do it's own thing?

    I use mine in the kitchen because I like the way it cuts food and it's easy to clean. It's pretty enough to pass as kitchen cutlery and it's easy to pack for grillin' trips.

    Plus, it does all those other things well.

    I'm sad to see it go :(
     
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  17. Makael

    Makael Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 17, 2015
    In sure Joe H and Buck will still put one custom out now and again.
     
  18. eveled

    eveled Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 11, 2016
    all of the above is true for me too. I couldn’t have said it any better. I’ll add one of the compromises if the 110 was no guard. The 101 should have had a single guard. It was a missed opportunity, IMHO.


    I’m glad they did it and glad people liked it. I’m sure we will see it again.
     
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  19. BuckShack

    BuckShack Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 19, 2015
    RIP
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  20. Old Hunter

    Old Hunter Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    Nicely composed photo Buckshack! OH
     
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