Dumped in the Woods--What Knife--What Gun?

robino said:
Jeez, this would be a pretty easy paycheck for me.

20 days?!

I've survived 13 years in a hardline communist country where flour sugar beans and other 'regular' foods were a luxury and not available.
No electricity? Check.
No running water? Check.
No heat? Check.

Given that you would have hook and fishing line, you could live on fish alone for 20 days so the gun would be more of a self defensive thing, considering you're in bear country, so i would opt for something bigger than a .22 - maybe a .12 gauge shotgun for those 50 yrd or less shots.

You could set traps for small game and not have to use up the ammo on them if fishing proves harder to do.

You can actually live pretty damn good for 20 days with all those things...and eat nice and healthy too. I know I'd come back 10 lbs heavier and 100K richer.

As far as a Buck goes...i'll reserve my comment on that since i haven't the slightest clue about Buck knives.
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DAMN!!!! I'm gonna have up the rewards here!!!

I always figured that everybody would use up ALL their ammo, but Robino sounds like he may not need it.

Maybe I made this scenario too easy.

Anyhow.....from now on it's an additional $10,000 for each round of ammo that you return unused!!!

:D

Oh.......and we'll just put you down for the Buck 119 then, Robino.......it seems to be a popular choice. ;)
 
Buck_110 said:
In a survival situation, it's not really a good idea to fillet fish. Every nibble counts. Just head and gut them before putting them over the fire. Once cooked, the flesh can simply be pulled from the skeleton with your fingers.

Also, the entrails from past kills will attract future meals, too. Waste not, want not.
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That's funny, because I was just sitting here trying to visualize filleting a fish with that 106.

:D

Also, I'm thinking that by the time I actually caught a fish I might just cook it entrails and all.

:D
 
Ergo hunter avid and Win '92 in 45lc with "Ruger" loads. Kill a moose and make jerky.
 
darthstrevel said:
+1 on the fully rifled shotgun ...


My remington 870 express with fully rifled barrel & scope. I have it mounted so that the irons can be used for birds, etc... Sabot slugs & #6 shot - would cover most of the basics from small game up to defence against 'mama griz.' Probably a 20-80 ratio of slugs to birdshot. Buck vanguard would been to be a good 'do-all' (jack of all tasks master of none) wilderness survival blade.

The only down side to this rig is that is heavy to carry more than 50+ shotgun shells. 100 rounds would probably be enough for the time period of 20 days - even including a few missed shots. I typically fire 5-6 shots for every 2 kills when bird hunting.
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I think I missed this one before......hate to say it, but you only get 10 rounds. Best ground-pound them. :)

Buck Vanguard is a solid choice. I will probably go with a little more slender blade just because I'd be hoping for a lot of small-game and fish cleaning.

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BG42EDGE said:
Ok.......we're gonna have to entertain trading ideas.

Packrat.....disregard what I said before. With all the stuff Buck 110 is coming up with here.....trading is open for consideration.

:D

I agree that peanut butter is a great idea.
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I'm diabetic and allergic to peanut butter. :mad: :rolleyes: :D

But,,,peanutbutter makes good tree rat bait.
 
Pack Rat said:
I'm diabetic and allergic to peanut butter. :mad: :rolleyes: :D

But,,,peanutbutter makes good tree rat bait.
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Ok, you get to trade for whatever you think is fair.

My wife has a great muffin recipe with carrots, apples, raisins, walnuts, whole wheat flour and other top secret ingredients to create muffins that our diabetic friends say do not cause problems yet taste good.

I'll see if I can get her to part with it.

:D
 
BTW a Longbow can be used as a fishing pole or tent pole.
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Well, a shotgun can be used for a fishing pole or a tent pole, too......it's just more dangerous.

However.......if you get a good chance to shoot some fish while using it as a fishing pole, you can quickly take an opportunity to make the best of it.

:D

Yes, your longbow adds some interesting possibilities to the scenario. Trade away.

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After much thought, I'll go with:

Firearm: Winchester 94 30-30
Knife: Buck 119

Close runners up: Marlin 783, .22 WMR, and Buck 102. If the scenario was a little less wild, I'd go with the Marlin and the smaller Buck.

Good thread, sure has me thinking.
 
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Lots of fascinating responses......here's mine, fascinating or not so much.

My strategy is to keep my load as light as possible and push hard for the aforementioned river and lake and get there the first or second day and catch some fish. I'll watch carefully for small game and especially a porcupine (which will provide several meals and which I won't have to shoot).

Knife: a later model Buck 121 (with the thicker blade). I suppose I could baton it if needed, but I suspect I can gather all the wood I need from deadfalls. I'm not staying the winter, after all. Small fires are best and I have a tarp and don't need to build a shelter.

Gun: A shotgun with small game loads. I don't want or need to kill any big game on this trip.

Specifically, a Winchester Model 37 16 Gauge single-shot with the barrel cut to 18 inches and a sling attached. (I don't have this, but I know where I can borrow it and it's the best lightweight hiking gun I've ever seen.)

Ammo: All ten would be 7 1/2 shot one ounce loads. In the highly unlikely event of a bear that actually comes after me for real.......I shoot him in the face at 10 to 15 yards and blind him. Sorry, that's cruel, I know.....but I'm not hunting, I'm surviving. Maybe he'll still get me, but if a bear is serious and close hardly any weapon is going to stop him quick enough anyway and a bear with a blasted face will be so disoriented that I can probably avoid him.

And I will substitute some peanut butter for some beans.

;)
 
Well,I wouldn't hesitate to take this challenge,I would not eat any of the mre's,i'd rely on my survival skills in stead.My choice of gun in the rockies would be a 45/70 marlin guide gun with ghost ring sights.My knife would be a 110 440 c 2 dot folding hunter.20 days wouldn;t be too hard,i've spent more time in the woods than the average hunter/woodsman.I would have a map/compass,so i wouldn't make a home base,just quick camps as i keep moving,nothing too comfy.I am 245 lbs so i could live with just water if i had to,but i'm sure i could kill plenty of things in the rockies to eat.One thing i would rely on is the compass,i have done lots of survival training,i'd have no problem getting to a destination point with map/compass.2O days is a long time to survive in the woods ,i have spent 10 days in the middle of winter before and it wasn't a picnic by any means.Food is scarce,so is wood to make a good fire when its all under snow.Great thread BG-42!
 
Tough call! I'm not going to delve into the world of guns and just go with what I own myself. Actually in that department I am torn. It would be between at H&R Survivor in .410/45 Colt or my IMI Timberwolf .357 pump. One gives me both the shotshell capability as well as being able to sling a big .45 slug. The IMI boosts .357 shots over 2,000 fps and has the ability to shoot .38 spl loads as well.

The knife is easy, Buck 185, gives me a knife and a saw.
 
Yeah, the knife/saw combo has a lot to recommend it.....I'm surprised we haven't gotten more answers like that.

I guess my choice of the 121 is more heart than head. That knife has always felt good in my hand. :)
 
RAZORBLADES said:
Well,I wouldn't hesitate to take this challenge,I would not eat any of the mre's,i'd rely on my survival skills in stead.My choice of gun in the rockies would be a 45/70 marlin guide gun with ghost ring sights.My knife would be a 110 440 c 2 dot folding hunter.20 days wouldn;t be too hard,i've spent more time in the woods than the average hunter/woodsman.I would have a map/compass,so i wouldn't make a home base,just quick camps as i keep moving,nothing too comfy.I am 245 lbs so i could live with just water if i had to,but i'm sure i could kill plenty of things in the rockies to eat.One thing i would rely on is the compass,i have done lots of survival training,i'd have no problem getting to a destination point with map/compass.2O days is a long time to survive in the woods ,i have spent 10 days in the middle of winter before and it wasn't a picnic by any means.Food is scarce,so is wood to make a good fire when its all under snow.Great thread BG-42!
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Thanks. We've had several people who seem quite confident they can kick the crap out of this scenario. Maybe I made it too easy, but I see ending with enough surplus to make a lot of money as fairly iffy. Just a little bad luck or good luck could change things a lot. I guess a lot would depend on how hungry you were willing to get.

:)
 
Okay, I fought with myself over which gun to take, but weight is where it's at.
Gun: Weatherby Mark V Ultralight, .30.06.
Knife: My trusty old Buck 110 will do just fine, I trust it. :thumbup:
 
Both wise and concise, Johnny.....I'm surprised at how many have chosen powerful rifles, but.......who knows???

Maybe they're right.

:)
 
Easy........12ga pump/ 119. 2 slugs/ 8 shot. When I get to lake would shoot a red squirrel and put out guts in open and when two canadian jays (whiskey jacks) come down to grab some gut would blast two in one shot.

300

Give me choice of two sharp tools, I would have to choose between 112 and folding saw or 112 and good short axe.
 
I've thought about this for quite a while today. 12ga sounds good with buckshot for small game, but just to be different I'll take my .22-250 that is extremely accurate and would be good for small and medium sized game. My knife will be my Hoodlum. I've used it enough to feel good about it for twenty days. A lot of blade, but not a lot of weight in the pack. If a large male bear charges me, I'll shoot off one of his testicles and hope for that blinding effect that BG42 mentioned. At least he may be disoriented for a bit...
 
Knife:119. gun:Ruger blackhawk .357
Strategy: find water, gather firewood, build lean to.
Food: anything that breaths or swims. I love frog legs. The less effort to procure the better.
 
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