***EBAY BUYERS LOOK OUT FOR THIS GUY.."I PREFER PARTIAL REFUND"..eBAY AWACS***

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SAY "HI!" HONEY IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, THAT "belote" FROM eBAY!

GUYS I JUST DON WANNA MAKE THIS ONE PERSONAL BUT GUESS I'V GOT2 SAY STH. FOR THE SAKE OF JU*TICE!

JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE ON EBAY, I BOUGHT AND PAID FOR A COLD STEEL OYABUN KNIFE FROM THAT eBAYER belote (AND IT WAS NOT EVEN SHIPPED TO ME, NOT EVEN STARTED TO BE SHIPPED, THAT IS AT THE MOMENT), AND SOON I'VE GOT THE MESSAGE THAT THIS THING WON'T GO THROUGH THE CUSTOM SINCE I'M LEAVING FOR PLACES..SO I CALLED FOR A REFUND, AT FIRST THIS GUY belote SAYZ OK (WE UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION, WHAT A SAINT) AND HE GUARANTEED A REFUND, AND THEN HE HAD A SECOND THOUGHT AND REMEMBERED THAT HE'S GOT AN IQ OF TEN THOUSAND, SO HE SAID HIS ONE OF HIS MANY BOSSES(THEY MUST BE DARN POWERFUL, RESPECT PLEASE), WELL THAT IS, ONE OF MR.WHOs HAS TO CHARGE ME $5.00 FOR WHAT WAS NOT EVEN SENT OFF TO THE KUSTOMER!!

HI belote HONEY, IF YOUR O'THERE, BUY YOURSELF A BIBLE AND ASK YR GRANDMA TO READ IT TO YOU(AND MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND EVERY WORD IN THERE USING ANY MEANS POSSIBLE :p ), BUY IT WITH "YOUR" $5.00 YOU TOOK FROM SOMEONE ELSE FOR NO REASON.(BY THE WAY,HIS 'REASONS': HE SHOULD CHARGE ME EBAY FEE AND PAYPAL FEE::BUT IN FACT, EBAY DOES NOT CHARGE ANY FEES ON THE SELLER, BUT THE BUYER(SAME GOES WITH PAYPAL!)::AND THIS belote WILL SIMPLY GET YOU CHARGED TWICE(JUST IF YOU EVER DARE TO ASK FOR A REFUND)!!AND HE KNOWS IT'S THAT DARN ILLOGICAL, SO HE SAID: "HI, IT'S JUST ONE OF MY BOSSES THAT WANTED TO CHARGE YOU, NOT ME, S * R R Y ! "

AND MAY GOD HAVE THE RIGHT KINDA MERCY ON HIS SOUL!!

SO SAY HI belote HONEY IF YOUR O'THERE AND BUY YRSELF A HOLY BIBLE, ASK YR GRANDMA TO TEACH EVERYTHING IN THERE USING EVERY MEANS THAT'S POSSIBLE...

MAY GOD HAVE THE RIGHT KINDA MERCY ON THE RIGHT KINDA SOUL...

AND YEP! :)
 
By the way, you should be thankful that they're even letting you off with just $5.

Bidding on an auction is a legal CONTRACT to purchase the item. You're breaking a contract that you made.

Furthermore, eBay doesn't know that you're not going to buy the item. So, they charge the seller their commissions and fees even though the sale didn't go through. The seller has to pay the eBay fees as if the sale had gone through even though you welched on the deal. By backing out, you left the seller with eBay fees to be paid, but no income with which to pay them. And now he's got to pay more eBay fees to relist his item.

And you have the gall to complain as if you're the one who was wronged here? No. You are the one who broke the contract. You are in the wrong and you should the thankful that Mr, belote let you off for just five bucks.
 
EBAY DOES NOT CHARGE ANY FEES ON THE SELLER, BUT THE BUYER
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As an occasional eBay seller and frequent eBay buyer -- been on both sides of the deal -- I can assure you that this is completely wrong. eBay charges the seller non-refundable fees before the item is even sold. You've got to give 'em a credit card before you can list so that the moment your auction closes with a sale (before you even exchange e-mail much less money/goods with the buyer) they can ding your card for their commissions. They take their commission from the seller the moment the auction closes.

But, as a buyer I have never paid eBay a penny in fees.

You understand what you are talking about even less than you understand spelling and capitalization.

Go away.
 
I'm sure.

As I say, I've been on both sides of the eBay transaction.

You, my Bible-thumping friend, have born false witness against your neighbor. You have falsely accused him. Now you need to appologize to Mr. belote, and not just here but directly to him via e-mail.
 
TRY PAYING WITH PAYPAL AND YOU DO GET CHARGED, AND I WONDER WHY YOU WOULD BE KINDA :mad: CAUSE THINGS SEEM FAMILAR TO YA?
 
Gollnick said:
As an occasional eBay seller and frequent eBay buyer -- been on both sides of the deal -- I can assure you that this is completely wrong. eBay charges the seller non-refundable fees before the item is even sold. You've got to give 'em a credit card before you can list so that the moment your auction closes with a sale (before you even exchange e-mail much less money/goods with the buyer) they can ding your card for their commissions. They take their commission from the seller the moment the auction close.
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Uhh no they don't...I buy and sell on ebay all the time, as a seller, they total my fees and bill me monthly direct from my bank. Ebay has NEVER touched my credit card.

BTW I agree with you on the other though, he broke the contract not the seller, it's his loss.
 
Paypal is different. Paypal works for you. They pay your bills for you. Of course they charge you a fee.

But, paypal also charges the seller a fee if the seller puts the Paypal logo on his auction listing and the item sells.

eBay works for the seller. They auction his item for him. So, they charge the seller a fee.
 
You Can Be Right But Do You Believe That 5 Bucks Won't Get His Cost Back?

And If You Are The Seller, How Can I Beleve That You Won't Say "ok, Buddy 10 Bucks" "ok Budy, 20 Would Be Better?" Take My Position And Think, How Can I Be Sure Wahtz The Right Fee Then?? Yes If Theres Fee, I'll Pay, But When I Ask Him, Why Not Just A Little Bit More To Explain Then? Instead, Run Away, Stealth Strategy...

If You Were Me, Just How Would You Think About It?

And I Emailed Him And Emailed Him And I Emailed Him, No Answer, What Would You Take This Then?
 
Uhh no they don't...I buy and sell on ebay all the time, as a seller, they total my fees and bill me monthly direct from my bank. Ebay has NEVER touched my credit card.
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You must be a big seller then. I'm just a small-timer and they bill me instantly right on my Visa.

But, I think you can verify for me that eBay charges a seller fees even if the item doesn't sell (the listing fees) and they certainly charge the seller a commission when the item sells even if the buyer breaks his contract.
 
And See The First Snipe And Shoot It Dead Saying Oh My You Are Wrong..well Jsut Like I Did Huh?and We Thought That We Were Both That Kinda Right?
 
Flamegate,
Just a friendly suggestion . . . I am also an Ebay seller and the seller DOES in fact pay a fee to list the item and a percentage of the transaction in most cases. You may want to go re-read the Ebay rules. Also, what you have said here is usually referred to as "flaming". There is a section here under the exchange forum called "The good, the bad, and the ugly" that is usually where a deal gone south would be posted. No need to get upset . . . you just may want to re-check some of the info.
 
How Can I Be Sure Wahtz The Right Fee Then??
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It cost a two or three dollars to put an item on eBay. It depends on how many of the extra services he bought. Having more than one picture costs more. Listing in multiple categories costs more. Having a buy-now option costs more. I can't even remember what all they are.

And then there's the commission that Mr. belote now has to pay because as far as eBay knows, the item was sold.

Keep in mind that he now has to relist the item and pay the fees over again.

Five bucks is not unreasonable at all.


If You Were Me, Just How Would You Think About It?
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I would be thankful that Mr. belote let me out of my legally-binding contract, released me from my promise, for just $5 and didn't report me as a no-pay to eBay.
 
Nice Nice Nice And Nice!!
The Case Is::even I Was So Sacred Like You And I Would Even Pay Him A More Reasionable Lot, I Wouldn't Be Able To! Why! He Got Away Whatsoever!!

And Should I Cry "oh My Sweetie Come Back, Lets Just Talk And Maybe I Should Give You A Lot More..!!"

And Why Would He Still Be Running???
 
If That Was You Running And Me Crying After, Would You Stop And Turn Around??

Well Maybe The Earth Is Round :)
 
I'm pretty sure you're right, there is a fee if you actually sell or not. I don't do a lot of selling, but from the times that I have I'm fairly certain there is a fee, although it's not too serious.

I've delt with the seller you mention in the past. I won a package deal of 5 Inova Microlights, all in white. When they came in the mail, one of them was blue. I emailed this seller and within 2 days I had a white one, and he didn't even ask for the blue one back. His feedback is outstanding.
 
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Gollnick said:
You must be a big seller then. I'm just a small-timer and they bill me instantly right on my Visa.

But, I think you can verify for me that eBay charges a seller fees even if the item doesn't sell (the listing fees) and they certainly charge the seller a commission when the item sells even if the buyer breaks his contract.
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I have just around 100 transactions on ebay, and this is the way they have always done me, but your right if you list an item on ebay there is a fee based on minimum bid amount, then another fee based on sale price. Sorry flamegate, but you should have to cover these since you broke the contract.
 
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