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I have been listening to the news lately and the US economy is not doing very well. Our country is over spending and borrowing from China and Europe. Those countries have been considering pulling out their investments.

This thread is not about blame........It is about as survivalists how do we prepare for an economic recession.


Garden
Hunting
trading stuff

What other skills could come in handy?
 
Having backup earning skills is very important here. I was an electrical engineer for 5 years. Constant uncertainty. So I can build decks, paint, drywall, do electrician work, and even some plumbing.

Oh, and I make knives on the side too.
 
One thing, I was thinking about is management and leadership skills.

Organizing and coordinating community efforts. That could be a job in itself.
 
chrisaloia said:
One thing, I was thinking about is management and leadership skills.

Organizing and coordinating community efforts. That could be a job in itself.
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Excellent point. I think the leaders in a community will make or break it if things really go downhill.

I participated in a mock mass-immunization project this summer held in a city nearby. That experience has me seriously thinking about moving out in the country where I have my own water supply etc.

The lack of leadership, organization, and inability to link cause-and-effect was profoundly disturbing. I'd like to say I'm man enough to get a job with the local government and try to help them fix it (there are job openings in emergency preparedness) but I'm done tilting a wind-mills. I'll focus on easier to slay dragons, like taking care of myself, my family, and any other individuals that want to listen.
 
LOL.

I cook, never poor, never hungry, always catering to some rich whitey ; )

Recession Proof

The bigger fear in this climate is how quick we "citizens" are to give up our liberty in the name of protecting the father...(Cough) I mean HOME land.
 
In times of economic uncertainty, one valuable skill is the ability to hoard and cache goods for future use. Food, tools, raw materials. And also real money...

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The Chef said:
LOL.

The bigger fear in this climate is how quick we "citizens" are to give up our liberty in the name of protecting the father...(Cough) I mean HOME land.
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That's right. "Work makes you free" :eek:

In a college class were discussing medical ethics, I made the statement "Question authority"

One of the regular (approx 18 yo) college students looked at me in shock and said "How will we know what to think?" He was serious.
 
I can remember when the Y2K stuff was coming up on us, my friend Donovan and I were in a grociery store buying some batteries. We were in the cashier line behind some real weenie guy with two carts full of canned goods, water, etc. He turned around and saw us standing there, one pack each of AA batteries for a couple of LED flashlights. He said "are you guys stocked up already?" I said "nope." He said "You need to just in case. You don't know what might happen." I said "I'm not worried about it." He got this crazy look of dismay on his face like I had spit on his bible or something. Then he said all snotty "well what are you going to do if something does happen? I don't think your pack of batteries is going to do enough. What are you going to do when your food and water runs out?" Donovan then said one of the greatest things I've ever heard. He said "We just came from the gun store. We stocked up on bullets. We don't need to stock up on food and water. Everyone else like you already did it for us. You know where we'll be when our food and water runs out... sitting on top of your dead body, enjoying your canned peaches in your living room."

That guy didn't even so much as look back in our general direction again.
 
First off, I say that it is always best to live in a rural area where you can grow your own food and be as self-suficient as possible. My grandparents survived the depression this way, and they never went either hungry or cold during all those years!

....but, also don't fall for the left wing presidential election coming up BS about the economy being on the verge of colapse! The ecomomy is stronger and more resilient than you think, but the left would like you to believe otherwise so you will vote them into power as your "saviors".
 
Random04 said:
That's right. "Work makes you free" :eek:

In a college class were discussing medical ethics, I made the statement "Question authority"

One of the regular (approx 18 yo) college students looked at me in shock and said "How will we know what to think?" He was serious.
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If I am reading your response correctly the "work makes you free" is sarcasm, correct? :confused:

If it is directed at my response to the original question, I don't really understand what the irony there is. We all have to work in some capacity and in the case of a system breakdown; which in this case seems to be the government usurping control in the name of economic growth (war), terrorism (war) or what have you. A trade is what can insulate those of us who have to stay around the fray and don't or can't excercise the Les Stroud option of bugging out. Everything American is rooted in the Calvinist ethos, that work hard conditioning which makes capitalism the ever refreshing avenger of the working poor.

I would love nothing more than to answer the question posed with a base instinctual answer like grab them guns, trapping gear and snowshoes then head for the klondike. Unfortunately that probably would result in a lot of dying through the same aforementioned idiocy you brought light by the eighteen year old, there is alot more of them than us. :D
 
reconranger said:
....but, also don't fall for the left wing presidential election coming up BS about the economy being on the verge of colapse! The ecomomy is stronger and more resilient than you think, but the left would like you to believe otherwise so you will vote them into power as your "saviors".
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Yeah, those crazy left wingers, going on about the end of the world...

*go back to browsing this survivalist forum*

:D
 
chrisaloia said:
I have been listening to the news lately and the US economy is not doing very well. Our country is over spending and borrowing from China and Europe. Those countries have been considering pulling out their investments.

This thread is not about blame........It is about as survivalists how do we prepare for an economic recession.


Garden
Hunting
trading stuff
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Having survived several recessions in my lifetime, I've never had to resort to gardening, hunting, or bartering to survive. I don't see any reason to think I'll have to do so in the future. The best protection against a changing economy is to not be afraid of moving or getting new skills. Or working.
 
The Chef said:
If I am reading your response correctly the "work makes you free" is sarcasm, correct? :confused:

:D
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Sorry, no, I wasn't directing sarcasm at you in any way, shape or form. I agree, you are in the perfect job because your services will always be needed. I left my previous profession (partially due to the economy) and am now preparing to take the boards to get my license as a nurse. Based on our aging population I should have a job as long as I am capable of working. I hope to be as employable no matter what happens to the economy.

I was playing off of your Father or HOME land comment and I agree with what I think you were saying. It seems to me there is a a trend toward not question Government agencies and politicians. I saw it pretty strongly among the 18 - 23 year old group that I was taking science classes with. I'm 42 and have distrust of government after growing up in the 70's (Watergate, Vietnam, etc). For the past 13 years I have worked for state government and have developed an even stronger distrust of government as I have seen first-hand some of the policies that have been developed to deal with a slowing economy.

My reference to "Work Makes Your Free" is a bitter comment because it was written above the gates of one of the concentration camps "Arbeiten macht Frei" I believe it was. Those in the camps and private citizens were told that they would be free as long as they worked and had work to do. Some of the 20-somethings that used to work for me had this sort of attitude. "If I have a job, things must be good and we are doing the right thing..." "I'm going to vote for dude because he IM'ed me...."

To "The Chef", I was not trying to slam you or be sarcastic and I apologize if it sounded that way. I was venting my frustration about American society and probably chose a poor way to do it.
 
The United States has never defaulted on debt. We borrow more to pay it off, so I really doubt any countries will pull out of their investment because they are making loads on interest. Also, we import far more than we export, so pulling out out of their investment would not only severely damage our economy, but also everyone else who relies on exporting goods to the US(China and Mexico for instance). If there is a major recession I dont think it will be because foreign countries pulled out of their investing.

For the sake of discussion, lets say we do enter a major recession. I would probably try and get a job at a bar since people always have money for alcohol. Especially since everyone who isn't a mountain man or woman will be depressed. Maybe I'd even open up my own bar. :thumbup:
 
ReconRanger,

Ben S. Bernanke told Congress today, "business growth is likely to slow noticeably in coming months." This guy is our the Fed chairman, not part of some liberal conspiracy to take OUR guns away. His job is to make the economy grow, he was appointed by W.

If the US is a business and the CFO tells you to tighten your belt, this is not a scare tactic, it is bad news.
 
I don't think we have to quibble over WHY to be prepared, or even how prepared to be. But hurricanes can devastate a region, fires can destroy whole neighborhoods, and local economic conditions can make jobs hard to find for the lower end of the educational or economic spectrum.

It never hurts to begin filling lists of emergency - medical - survival - subsistence supplies. Weapons, too. It may not be the end of the world, but what do you do if you're out of work for 6 months? Or a blizzard shuts down the grocery stores for a few days? It pays to plan ahead, without panicking.

"We just came from the gun store. We stocked up on bullets. We don't need to stock up on food and water. Everyone else like you already did it for us. You know where we'll be when our food and water runs out... sitting on top of your dead body, enjoying your canned peaches in your living room."
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Cute. My nextdoor neighbor was one of those Y2K guys. He was stocked up with food, water, and equipment for the midwinter disaster. The first thing he did, though, was get a 9mm and spend hours at the range getting good with it.
 
People! People! People! Too much politics! Not enough survival!

Let me rephrase chrisaloia's original question slightly, if I may:

This thread is not about blame........It is about as survivalists how would we prepare for an economic recession.
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Better?
 
I understand why it is hard for sheeple to get on board with survival plans.

I think economic recession is hardest to prepare for because you are not sure how hard it will effect you. My in-laws own quite a lot of acreage about 6 hours from me. If it got that bad I would go there and they would already have a large garden ready. They have plenty of farming tools and such.

I wonder if there would be disputes of game and water rights????


Thanks Marcinek
 
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