Ed Schempp fixed blade

Franco,
This is a heavy duty knife, the median ridge geometery allows for the knife to be thinner because a diamond is stronger than a triangle. The blade is fairly wide; 1.5-2 inches in width. Most machetes are .060-.070 less than half the thickness of this knife. The handle is secure with a fairly large guard, and an accommodating index finger grove ahead of the handle. This knife is shorter than most machetes but will serve that purpose. Weight is a very important factor if you are packing the piece, or using it. The knife is fairly light. When ever I handed the knife to someone at the Shot Show their hand would bob up; most expected a much heavier piece. CPM 3V is much less expensive then S30V so this simple three piece knife should be very affordable, but I don't know the price point. The median ridge with the slight recurve make this piece self align to flexable organic targets, like branches or brush. It is really fun to cut with this knife...Take Care...Ed
 
Whoa, seems like Spyderco starts making serious fixed blades after all :) I'm sure that whatever gets out of Ed's hands will be nothing but outstanding.
Waiting patiently to see the result... ;)
 
Can we at least see a pic of the proto, with the understanding that it is a proto and subject to change in the final design? I'm dying for pic.
 
A SPYDERCO CAMP KNIFE IN 3V?!

Oh happy freakin' day!! :D :D

When, how much and where is the PIC?!
 
No pics, its a prototype so I respected Sal's desire that no photo's be taken. I can talk about it though. It has a nice sweeping curved blade with neoprone handle at the moment, though the production model will have a different handle material. This is a very large blade, but Mr Schempp has lightened the blade buy removing a lot of stock from the spine and towards the edge. The middle of the width of the blade is full thickness though so this is not a weak knife in any way!

The Proto is damascus steel, though the production model will of course be 3V which ought to further increase the toughness of this knife to stella levels. This knife just feels incredibly powerful in your hand, you natuarlly sweep your wrist forwards with a swing, this enables powerful chops without the uncomfortable jarring vibrations normally suffered with poor teq. In short the balance and curves of the knife do not prevent shock (I was unable to try it out in the field) but rather encourage you to use the tool... better! Try the same teq with a Kukhri and hou will find yourself chopping more efficiently and for longer before fategue sets in.

This model is of course not set in stone yet, the handle set up and materials are yet to be confirmed and there will of course as the results of this knife's performance testing be probable changes. That is my guess anyway, so don't take that as certain! The knife is very good as is!

I am gladdened to finally see a really powerful and large cutting tool from Spyderco. Yet at the same time it is not a prybar with an edge. This knife looks to become a true cutting powerhouse without the usual baggage of mega thick, over weight tactical nonsense. This is looking seriously good! :D
 
General,

an ideal large knife, IMO, would be a knife which is
1. a good cutter, i.e. a good camp knife,
2. a good survival knife, i. e. tough and sturdy enough,
3. a good 'fighter', i. e. a reasonable SD capability.

How would you estimate a Spyderco 3V knife regarding its survival/fighting capabilities?

It is clear to me that it is much easier to make three knives, one for each purpose - but, it is difficult to carry three knives.
And, Spyderco sometimes makes impossible things!

Franco
 
Regards survival

This knife will be made from CPM 3V... seriously, that is one very tough steel! It puts most non powdered carbon steel steel's in the shade. The few that are more tough and able to resist plastic failure do not share this steels good wear resistance. The only downside I can see is that this is a non-stainless steel and some people who are used to Spyderco knives may not realise this. From what I saw of the lay out and design, this knife will be plenty sturgy enough. Though I stress I am doing a "opinion based upon a close inspection and chat with the Spyderco gang and NOT a field test" I trust that what I saw and felt was a knife with the essential meat left and the fat trimmed away. I can't wait to try this baby out!

Regards self defence and fighting, this knife will be a reasonable fighter. The broad tip and chopping balance will not endear this knife to the stilletto school of knife fighters, but the shear cutting power alone make this a fearsome opponent that must be respected. In fact a knife with this much chopping potential will require some serious care in use! A miss hit could result in very very serious injury or death. This will not be a second chance toy, like any large knife, Kukri, machette, parang or golok type tool you must be extra careful. The knife has less than stella thrusting capability compared to a proper "fighting" knife, a F/S it most certainly is not. If I were in need of a self defence knife I would certainly choose something like the Spyderco Temperence fixed blade or a Randall 8" model 2. It would be a much better option than any folder or your fists though! Weight, shearing edge power and length will prove that.

Look at the Puma Waidblatt for the basic idea of the lay out. It is a fairly similar lay out.
 
this sounds very cool, i'm anxious to see it in production. i hope they don't cut corners on the handle material, which is my only beef with some spydie stuff.
 
Hey, I have a vintage Waidblatt and its a great knife!

It looks a LITTLE like that knife, I am just trying to give you guys a vague idea of what it looked like over all. The knife is different in several key area's and yes the Spyderco model does look a lot nicer... more high tech! Think that knife with more curve to the blade, a whole lot of weight taken from it and a much sharper edge profile.

Darn, the Waidblatt was the only knife I could think of to compare it and now I am thinking they are at best distant cousins! Sorry guys, I could draw a pic but that would kind of defeat the idea of no pics! Sorry, but I have to respect the wishes of the chief! :)
 
especially in regards to upcoming models which certain knock-off companys want to get to the market before the actual model comes out. :mad: :rolleyes: :barf:

Was there any ballpark release date given yet?
 
General, didn't mean to sound like I was ragging on you.

Just eager to see this blade, that's all.

John
 
misque said:
especially in regards to upcoming models which certain knock-off companys want to get to the market before the actual model comes out. :mad: :rolleyes: :barf:

Was there any ballpark release date given yet?
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Problem is, mobile phones and PDA's often have camera's in them. If a company wants to see the proto's and get some pics, its not difficult to do. OK so you will spot the guy with the SLR and extra flash! But if a company wants to get pics of the new models, they will and do!

So, while I can't personally see the point of showing proto's and not allowing people to take pics, I respect the desire of Sal and Co to ask me not to take picures.

Put another way, if the knife is on public display... Its out there already! The only ones missing out are the Spyderfans!

But as I said, I respect Sal and Co and would not take any pictures without express permission.
 
General,

thanks for a kind reply. The Waidblatt looks rather ugly. The only knife that I could compare with (with a lot of phantasy) is an Aitor Jungle King II which I bought in my early knife 'career'. True, the King is not a stilleto, but still one can stab with it very well, in spite of the fact that it has the broad tip. As a matter of fact, I didn't get quite yor comment

The knife has less than stella thrusting capability compared to a proper "fighting" knife, ...
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I cannot find the phrase 'less than stella' in the Oxford Dict. , I know, 'stella' is a Latin word for a 'star'. Do you mean that the broad tip of the 3V blade were not so good for stabbing compared with a real stilleto type fighter, or do you mean that it would have no stabbing capability? Sorry for boring you with my English.

I guess that Kukri knives, having a bolo-type blades, are still good for stabbing, at least that was my impression playing with a CS Gurkha Kukri in some shop.

Franco
 
("Stellar" was meant.)

While not penetrating as deeply as a much thinner blade, I do agree with you that a kukuri's broad blade would do a lot of damage stabbing- of course, I would jprefer a guard for this eventuality.

John
 
Stellar, yes.

Not optimised would be my clarification. Still not a blade to get poked with though! :p
 
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