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silversport

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Metals notwithstanding and price being near equal...

Benchmade 806D2 AFCK plain edge axis lock
Spyderco Police model plain edge
Spyderco Military model plain edge

Quality of each??? Any help from owners or people who know more than I do(That's ALL of you!)would be a great help!
Thankx,
Bill:rolleyes: :confused:
 
What I like you might not like (the Police model)...If you have a chance to handle each of the three that you are considering, that is the best way to decide which one is right for YOU.
 
Benchmade 806D2 AFCK plain edge axis lock
Spyderco Police model plain edge
Spyderco Military model plain edge

I think if you put each name in a hat and picked one at random, you'd come out with a great knife :) They are all classics, and each has lots of loyal satisfied customers. If I had to pick one of those three for myself, I'd take the Spydie Military, but if your hand isn't real big, go for the Police instead.
 
For general utility I'd go with the Military, for self defense the AFCK or Police w/grip tape.

Either way, all great knives. I understand why you would say steel notwithstanding. All of these knife steels are "wondersteels", so you can't go wrong.
-Kevin
 
The BM 806 has the advantage of four carry - options (tip up, down, left right). Maybe that plays a role in your choice.

I personally preferd the BM because of equal lefty use and the AXIS Lock did interessed me. The Lock is great.

To your comparision: I would think about geting the millie or the AFCK. If you are a leftie, take the AFCK.

If Spyderco would modifie he millie to left or right hand use, i might come in trouble, to buy it or not.
 
In my opinion slick stainless scales and lockback design do not make for a real good utility folder, so I would avoid the Police. Other people seem to love it, though.

Between the AFCK and the Military it is simply a matter of deciding whether you prefer more strength or more cutting performance. The AFCK is considerably stronger than the Military, at the cost of some cutting efficiency.

I would be inclined to choose the AFCK; you can always alter the edge geometry to increase performance, but changing the basic design of a knife is tough.

The Axis lock is considerably more convenient and reliable than a liner lock.

I would take the BM 710 over any of the knives you proposed.
 
Some people feel the afck is stronger due to the liner on that model which the millie doesn't have.

I've had the same discussion with one who carries the afck daily. He like the millie buit wants the liner under the g-10 as he feels it is stronger in that config.

Brownie
 
Originally posted by Morgoth412
In what way is the AFCK stronger than the Military?
-Kevin
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The AFCK has full steel liners under the scales.

G10 is good stuff, but not really comparable to steel in terms of strength/volume.

In addition; if I remember correctly the blade on the AFCK is simply a bit more robust than the Military design, and therefore stronger. Of course, this reduces cutting performance to a degree. Standard strength vs. efficiency tradeoff.

Another reason that I would hesitate to get the Military or Police is that they have "MILITARY" and "POLICE" marked in big letters on the blade. Maybe this is just me, but I'm really put off by useless writing on the blade. A manufacturer's logo and steel info is fine, but making a billboard out of the thing is questionable.
 
Spyderco and Benchmade both make quality knives. If possible, handle each of them and get the one YOU like the most.

Paul
 
This is EXACTLY what I had hoped for...I had mentioned metals notwithstanding because I believed all these knives have good metals for the blade and depending on if I buy used or new, the metal contstruction would differ.
Scales are available in either cabon fiber or G-10 on the police models now so the scales of each CAN be the same (other than coarseness of the "grain")
I have seen the ACFK with the axis lock, with an oval hole and with the "spyderco" round hole.
Thanks for all the replies.
I AM reading the FAQs and trying to "BOOST MYSELF OUTTA NEWBIE-DOM."
I really appreciate the help.
Bill
:cool: :D
 
Wow Silversport. You and I have the same tastes. I'm originally from Chi-town too. Maybe it's something in the water? Do you like linerlocks and framelocks? If so, it probrably is something in the water.:D
 
silversport - All three knives are of good quality. The next question is, which feels better in your hand? What works for me might not necessarily be best for you, or for someone else. Ideally, you would make up your mind only after handling the different knives you're choosing from.
 
The AFCK has full steel liners under the scales.

G10 is good stuff, but not really comparable to steel in terms of strength/volume.
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This is one of those statements that is theoretically true, but in practice doesn't really fit. Yes, steel liners do make a knife stronger, in practice however that strength does not make much if any differance and adds weight to the knife. I can tell you now, I doubt you will ever hear anyone say that the handles on their Military have broken. In fact...I have never heard anyone say that the handles on a cheap FRN handled Cold Steel or Spyderco have broken, so to say the G10 alone isn't strong enough...

In addition; if I remember correctly the blade on the AFCK is simply a bit more robust than the Military design, and therefore stronger. Of course, this reduces cutting performance to a degree. Standard strength vs. efficiency tradeoff.
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I'll take your word. I have not handled an AFCK.

Another reason that I would hesitate to get the Military or Police is that they have "MILITARY" and "POLICE" marked in big letters on the blade. Maybe this is just me, but I'm really put off by useless writing on the blade. A manufacturer's logo and steel info is fine, but making a billboard out of the thing is questionable.
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While I don't feel it is "questionable", I do think it isn't necessary and kind of silly. I agree with you there.
-Kevin
 
Oh, Buzzbait mentioned this steel liner thing in his report about the Millie. He said, he missed them at first too, but converted to find it one of his best pieces he has.

I confess, i feel, i would miss those steel liners too. Can´t tell why. Maybe, i use handles to open bottles, therefor the G10 is somehow brittle and wears away quickly.

On the other hand, i heard someone writing in his book about knifes, that Sal Glesser was saying, that steel is the best handle material considering lock strength. If this is a true report, i would expect a bit steel on the Millie. But because of the compression lock, the Paramilli will get some liners.

Much words, off topic.

Most people, having both knifes, were saying, they can hardly decide, wich one is the better one.
 
put my vote in for the AFCK, i like the fact that it has three clip positions, i lik the axis lock better then a liner lock and i like the overall looks of the AFCK more.
 
Choose the Benchmade! Aside for the carry options it is much stronger than the spydercos and it can be taken apart for cleaning. Plus it's made in the USA. I also think that the blade is a better steal that will hold the edge longer. As if it hasn't been said enough AXIS LOCK!

The only way I would buy a spyderco is if the handles are metal of some sort and the blade is fully serrated (cause that's what spyderco does best)...Still you can't take it apart though and no axis lock.

I'm not looking to get flamed here BTW...I'm just sharing my opinion.

BM no contest! :p
 
Huh? S30V isn't good enough. You can't take apart a Military? The Military isn't made in USA?

I'm not flaming, but you seriously need to get your facts straight.
 
I guess I was mainly talking about the police... and didn't they just change the steel on that military? I think it was obivous that I was speaking in general about the two brands...

P.S. If the Military is now made in the US it's because of the steel right?
 
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