Emergency Prep Knife Ideas

Location should also play a big part in the selection process.

I'm in the very rural Pacific Northwest. I spend a great deal of time in the middle of nowhere. My knife choices reflect that.

If I spent most of my time up near the Seattle metro area, or traveling the interstates, my bag contents would look very different. I'd still have a multitool, but I'd probably forego a fixed blade. Partly because my need for a big blade would be substantially less whilst in close proximity to population centers. Partly because some of those jurisdictions take a dim view of packing a big frog-sticker.

Just some more things to consider when including edged tools in you preps.
 
I don't keep a specific BOB or 72 hour bag, per se'. What I do have, however, is smaller "groups" of items, that can be combined to create one quickly, should the need arise. Basically, I have a prepared camping backpack with some basic equipment, that can be supplemented at any given moment, with items that are stashed in a vehicle the house in a matter of minutes. The pack goes with me pretty much everywhere, because it's not cumbersome, and can be quickly adjusted to whatever the situation (for example: I can quickly grab the first aid kit and emergency bag from any of the vehicles and throw them in before abandoning it on the side of the road. Let's call it a "modular" system and mindset. But this is more of a discussion for a BOB type thread....

But as it pertains to knives:
Every emergency kit has a 2.5" - 3" folder in it of some sort. All are old EDC blades that have been replaced over the years, so there really is no 'new' investment in them, as they're knives I already had that weren't getting used. Prime example would be the Kershaw Blackout in the bag in my truck (I actually prefer it to the Blur). Durable, affordable, and something I'm not gonna worry about losing. But really, I EDC Manix 2 anyway, so I don't worry about what folder goes in any bag, even though there's one in each.

In the backpack itself, I keep a few knives.
- Again, there's an old folder, just because (not sure what's in there at the moment, but it's there). This is strictly a backup to my EDC, or if I need to hand it off to someone.
- Gerber BG Ultimate (laugh all you want) which is a decent size, and serves all my large fixed blade needs. The integrated sharpener and fire-steel are a nice addition (even though I have dedicated tools for this) and the price is right, at around $50. To do it over, I'd probably go with a Prodigy, LMF II, or similar, but so far, it's served me well around camp and in the woods.
- There is usually one of two, small 2.5" - 3" fixed blades as well. These usually float between the bag, the center console of the truck, or on my belt. One is an old Western W82 (hunting knife) and the other is an old CRKT Stiff KISS. Both were free to me, but could probably be found used at a flea market or gun show for $25 or so. If I was gonna go buy something for the pack, on my budget, I'd be looking for an ESEE 3 or similar.
- LM Wave multi-tool, which again, floats in and out of the bag to either my truck or belt, depending on day and situation. It's my primary multi-tool, so it's never far from me.

Like I said, my pack serves multiple functions, so it's almost always within arms reach anyway. Being winter, it's in the backseat of my truck right now, serving as a cold weather get home bag. When I travel, contents will get shifted around a bit to reflect what I might run into then. And during camping season, contents will get shifted around yet again for hiking and such. But those are the knives that usually live in it, even if they get shuffled in and out from time to time. Bonus is, since it's almost more of an EDC bag, all the tools in it get used on a regular basis, which means I'm very familiar and comfortable with all of them.


Don't know what his budget is, but for my knives (and my whole modular BOB/get-home system), I've spent very little, instead opting for things I already had on hand that either weren't being used anyway, or are integrated into my daily routine. My set up is more about mindset than a specific gear package.
 
I agree with the need for a good, pliers based multitool in a bob. It's just too versatile to not include one. My bag has a Vic Swisstool because that's what I edc for work, so it's what I'm familiar/comfortable with, but there's lots of great choices out there that would serve admirably.

The fixed blade on my bag lately is either a Becker bk7 or Ontario rd7. At any given time, I'll have one off to work with (read pissing around with sticks and whatnot when I have some free time) and one strapped to the bag, alternating the two depending on what I feel like... ahem... working with at the time. The Becker has the extra little fixed blade that the sheath is built to accommodate (the model number escapes me at the moment) and the Ontario has a Vic Trekker in the front pouch. Both have Fallkniven field stones and magnesium fire starters in their respective sheath pouches.

I prefer the rd7/trekker set-up to the Becker pair because I personally like the design of the Ontario a little better (after some hand sanding of the grip scales) and like the Trekker WAY more than that little Becker 2 1/2 finger neck knife. Although, considering the fact that there's a multitool in the pack and always either a multitool on my belt or an SAK of some description in my pocket, I've been seriously considering swapping the Trekker out for a Mora Companion. Inexpensive, lightweight, very useful knife with no folder mechanism for food bits to hide in and grow bacteria, plus how much screwdriver redundancy would a person really need in 72 hours?

Just to give an idea of how the knives fit in the overall picture of potential use, I almost always carry a one hand opening folder clipped in my pocket and in the pack is a Silky folding saw and a Cold Steel shovel. Yes, that one. You can laugh, it's fine. Over the top advertising mall ninjary aside, it's proven to be my favorite camping shovel. Please stop laughing.... :D
 
I almost always carry a one hand opening folder clipped in my pocket and in the pack is a Silky folding saw and a Cold Steel shovel. Yes, that one. You can laugh, it's fine. Over the top advertising mall ninjary aside, it's proven to be my favorite camping shovel. Please stop laughing.... :D

It's one of the best since he replicated the Russian army shovel design, no need to feel ashamed about this. If it was good in the war, it is good for leisure too.
 
It's one of the best since he replicated the Russian army shovel design, no need to feel ashamed about this. If it was good in the war, it is good for leisure too.

I agree wholeheartedly. However, their marketing approach can have a bit of a tendency to make even the most basic and practical of tools seem like tacticool mall ninja fare.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. However, their marketing approach can have a bit of a tendency to make even the most basic and practical of tools seem like tacticool mall ninja fare.

You can't make a marketing campaign in US saying "This shovel drove nuts the Nazis and it was the pride of Russian infantry".
 
I agree with the need for a good, pliers based multitool in a bob. It's just too versatile to not include one. My bag has a Vic Swisstool because that's what I edc for work, so it's what I'm familiar/comfortable with, but there's lots of great choices out there that would serve admirably.........

.........Just to give an idea of how the knives fit in the overall picture of potential use, I almost always carry a one hand opening folder clipped in my pocket and in the pack is a Silky folding saw and a Cold Steel shovel. Yes, that one. You can laugh, it's fine. Over the top advertising mall ninjary aside, it's proven to be my favorite camping shovel. Please stop laughing.... :D

That is what I am hoping Scott will end up doing. Carry a folder in his pocket, not the laughing part.

For a multi-tool, Scott will have a Gerber MP 600 of some sort. I have two or three that are in pieces. I will get one together for him before this Friday

I have to admit, the Cold Steel E-tool is a good one. I would like to have one myself. I want the Titanium version. Not sure if CS offers that. Shovel and saw talks are down the road for Scott. After stoves and heat sources.
 
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That is what I am hoping Scott will end up doing. Carry a folder in his pocket, not the laughing part.

For a multi-tool, Scott will have a Gerber MP 600 of some sort. I have two or three that are in pieces. I will get one together for him before this Friday

I have to admit, the Cold Steel E-tool is a good one. I would like to have one myself. I want the Titanium version. Not sure if CS offers that. Shovel and saw talks are down the road for Scott. After stoves and heat sources.

The stout one hand folder plus multitool or SAK is just kinda what my edc has evolved into because it works well for me in my general life. Emergency preparedness wasn't really much of a concern of mine during that evolution, but I guess looking at what I carry, a guy could be in a lot worse shape for tools if something very bad happened while I wasn't near my pack and I had to get back to it. Of course, there are times when I just carry an SAK. Not terribly often anymore, but it happens.

On the shovel, it digs holes well as small shovels go and works well enough for bob or basic camping use as a chopper/machete/hammer alternative in my opinion. A pretty versatile piece of gear. As far as the Ti ones, all of them that I've seen pics of so far had tags written in Cyrillic, but then again I haven't really been looking for them either. You can probably buy an original Russian one somewhere if there isn't one made specifically for the US market.
 
Multi-tool is a must IMO. I don't have a a folding knife in any of my kits because I always have one on me or a couple extra in my car (where one kit stays). For a knife you are hopefully never going to use I don't see the need to spend a ton of money. However, you don't want to go so cheap that if you did need it you would be left lacking. In one kit I have a SOG Seal Knife. It is big, thick, easy to maintain, and I am very familiar with it as I use one around the house and in the yard as a beater. In another kit I have a Seal Pup for similar reasons (I EDC an Elite regularly). Another Kit an older CRKT Wind River that would be for my wife so strength is not critical. On two bags that I actually use but in reality have enough gear in them that I could easily use them in an emergency I have an Esee 3 and a Spartan Horkos, those see use though so the cost is justified. In my true go bags the SOGs replaced Gerber Prodigies which were adequate and very inexpensive.

An option I would strongly consider if I was doing it over would be the Gerber Strong Arm. An upgraded Prodigy with a great sheath and low maintenance. I like the idea of including a pocket sharpener which I do in my bags.

what pocket sharpener do you like?
 
I have a small light weight hatchet in my bag. Nothing out performs a hatchet for chopping. The one I have is designed to choke up on so you can use it for food prep, too. There are several companies that make them and they weigh the same or less than a lot of fixed blades.
I also have a small Cold Steel Mini Recon 1 and a SAK. I will probably replace the CS with a 4 to 4.25 inch bladed fixed blade once I decide which one I want. Weight is a consideration and I have a 4 oz rule for knife weight.
 
I have to admit, the Cold Steel E-tool is a good one. I would like to have one myself. I want the Titanium version. Not sure if CS offers that.
They dont.

I bought the titanium E-tool directly from Russia a while ago.

I heartedly recommend it. Itll do anything the CS shovel will do in a lighter package.

All I did to mine was to sand the oversize handle.

This wont weigh down a ruck and its loads of fun.




 
what pocket sharpener do you like?

Without going to look at it my main one is I believe a lansky or smiths double sided diamond medium fine. It stores protected in its own handle. Great for touch ups even on more where resistant steels. If I was really serious about it I would look into the work sharp field sharpener. Gideons Tactical has some good reviews on it. For the various bug out bags I keep random hand held sharpeners, one is a smiths pen shaped diamond rod, others are those awful carbide/ceramic v-slots on them. I wouldn't use that part. They have a length of diamond hone that in a pinch can sharpen a great deal many things. I don't do a tone of field sharpening, actually more of when we are on vacation or visiting family that have painfully dull kitchen knives, but it is nice to know I have at least basic tools in each bag to get some sharpening done.

What about you? I've watched many of your sharpening vids and you are far more advanced at sharpening than myself. I still mostly use a norton double sided stone I got at a local hardware store and an inexpensive ceramic rod.

Edit to add: I had to go look. It is a Smith's. This one I believe: https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SMIDCS4/Smiths-4-inch-Diamond-Combination-Coarse-and-Fine
 
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I bought the titanium E-tool directly from Russia a while ago.

I heartedly recommend it. Itll do anything the CS shovel will do in a lighter package.

This wont weigh down a ruck and its loads of fun.



Have you tried chopping with it? Weighing just over a pound it looks like a fun addition to my pack.
 
Yes, it chops off branches like there is no tomorrow.

In a pinch, there is no problem using the ti E-tool for chopping branches etc, if one left the chopper at home.

Better yet, it'll dig a hole just fine:)
 
Without going to look at it my main one is I believe a lansky or smiths double sided diamond medium fine. It stores protected in its own handle. Great for touch ups even on more where resistant steels. If I was really serious about it I would look into the work sharp field sharpener. Gideons Tactical has some good reviews on it. For the various bug out bags I keep random hand held sharpeners, one is a smiths pen shaped diamond rod, others are those awful carbide/ceramic v-slots on them. I wouldn't use that part. They have a length of diamond hone that in a pinch can sharpen a great deal many things. I don't do a tone of field sharpening, actually more of when we are on vacation or visiting family that have painfully dull kitchen knives, but it is nice to know I have at least basic tools in each bag to get some sharpening done.

What about you? I've watched many of your sharpening vids and you are far more advanced at sharpening than myself. I still mostly use a norton double sided stone I got at a local hardware store and an inexpensive ceramic rod.

Edit to add: I had to go look. It is a Smith's. This one I believe: https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SMIDCS4/Smiths-4-inch-Diamond-Combination-Coarse-and-Fine


haha yea, I use my field stuff for friends and family mostly as well, man I wish pull through sharpener actually worked that would make life easy, something about ripping the steel off the edge does not work, it leaves a mess if you look at an edge under a microscope and that mess of an edge just doesn't cut well or last long. Sometimes I get bored and try to challenge myself to produce my sharpest edge from a pull through, hasn't happened yet lol



I've used the smiths, its not bad, I'd rock one if I had it. It gets the job done and it stores in itself, I love my worksharp field sharpener but man Id just love the compact size of the dc3 and dc4, but I don't get the edges I do off of the worksharp haha I just keep trying and trying though because the dc3/4 is so lightweight, small and stylish.

I think out of all the ones I've used the worksharp is the best, I really enjoy the strop and white ceramic rod.
If they wanted to dominate they just need to make a micro version that would be my favorite.

I'd say your sharpening set up is solid, that's a very underrated set up, the Norton crystolon combo and india combo stones are dope they cut fast and wear slow as long as ya keep them from clogging with metal shavings, and the white ceramic cleans up edges nice.

I think you would really enjoy a 1 micron diamond compound on leather. That would really enhance your edges very nicely.

this is a polished/toothy edge, perfect for edc knives
 
It's very hard to recommend knives without knowing a budget.

I have a CS Code 4 clip point + Mora Light my Fire knife + Ontario Ranger rd6 + LM Wave in my pack. Not the lightest quad set in the world but all solid performers.

For a *cheaper* kit: a $20 Mora Companion + $23ish Ontario Rat 1 + multi-tool (Gerber and LM have some under $50)

If you can, try to call/text/email and get a rough estimate on budget, otherwise you will see a huge range of suggestions.

Cheaper option: Mora + Budget folder + Cheap Leatherman models

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I think you would really enjoy a 1 micron diamond compound on leather. That would really enhance your edges very nicely.

this is a polished/toothy edge, perfect for edc knives

You are probably right. Haven't even gotten into the realm of stropping yet. I know I've seen you do it on your vids but any specific recommendations of such a setup with links to a paid dealer?
 
Is the thread dead already? I hope not.

Come on people, I know that you folks have more wisdom and insight than what is listed here!
 
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