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As for holding your money, some people probably have waited nearly as long for a Randall custom...
It seems that you've not bothered to read all of this thread. This has been covered. The difference is that those people are told UP FRONT that it will be years before their knives are delivered. Mr. Emerson told me that it would be 18 months, giving a delivery date of about March of 1998. I waited another 18 months after that before I first contacted someone the factory. Then began several years of avoidance from Mr. Emerson and lie upon lie from his employees and one directly from him. I doubt that occurs with anyone who has placed an order for a Randall. I know that it hasn't happened to me and I've ordered several of them.
I'm fairly sure that if I know something about Mr E's character, he's not shady at all...
Perhaps you have some other explanation for his failure to return phone calls, for his failure to return emails and for the fact that once he looked me right in the eye and said that he was "working on that model" when nothing of the sort was underway!? Please, let's have your explanation for these things.
clearly his forum presence regardless of context shows that he DOES indeed care about his brand and what he produces.
I'll disagree. He's had countless opportunities to respond to my queries in this thread, yet he's failed to do so even once. It would seem that he's only here to promote himself and his knives.
I doubt people who have been fans for years are going to care about one sour experience anyway.
I'm sure that you're right. Several of his fan boys have participated in this thread. They're not dissuaded at all. Yet several people who were not aware of this incident HAVE spoken up and said that they'd not be buying any of his knives.
It's just the way of the consumer and you have to let it go man.
As I've said many times now, when Mr. Emerson takes responsibility for what he did by way of a sincere apology and a payment to me of the money that he owes me, I will. Until then, and as long as you or anyone else continues to make erroneous statements in this thread, I'll continue.
You know, it might sound a bit crude but perhaps he just plain didn't WANT to make a knife for you
That would be fine with me. But then why wasn't he man enough to say so when I was at his table asking if he'd build the knife for me? Why did he spend the time in working out the details of specs for the knife? Why did he take my deposit and my payments? AT ANYTIME, he could have said that he was not interested in building my knife. Yet he did nothing.
I'm never gonna know what that guy is thinking but for some of the custom bali's out there, you're sort of PICKED to buy one these days for some of the knives I've been into lately in the custom balisong world (Balibalistic, Terry Guinn, Dobruski, Korth). I'm on 2 waiting lists right now for custom balis, could be 6 months, could be sooner...
First, I'd be willing to bet that I've purchased more custom knives and have spent more time in waiting for them (especially if you add in custom guns) than you have. I'm well aware of how that world operates.
Second, AGAIN it looks as if you've missed the point. It's not how long the knife took to build that was upsetting. It was that I got a run−around for several years, each time being promised by Mr. Emerson's employees that the knife was "just around the corner." NEVER did he answer or return a phone call. NEVER did he return an email, NEVER did he reply to my written letters and NEVER did he tell me the truth, that he was never going to build the knife. In fact, on one occasion he deliberately lied to me and said that he was "working on that model."
As for your money, I have never been aware of Mr E taking payment in full for a knife upfront unless it's at a show where it's all due at the table.
In another thread someone posted an ad that showed that in his early days Mr. Emerson required a deposit with an order for a custom knife. This sounds a bit like you're calling me a liar. I suggest that you ask Mr. Emerson about this. AS I'VE SAID a couple of times now, I did the math and sent Mr. Emerson a small sum every month, timing it so that the final payment would arrive 18 months after the deposit was made, so that when the knife was done, per the time frame given by Mr. Emerson himself, it would be paid in full. It would really facilitate matters on this topic if you'd take the time to read the entire thread instead of making one assumption after another.
And again, could you please tell me what I could have done differently to get Mr. Emerson to live up to his promise to build me the knife that I'd ordered, that he'd agreed to build, and that I had paid for?