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Perhaps my tone has changed. I must admit that I'm human and sometimes respond in kind when treated poorly. It appeared to me, based on his replies that the "friendly advice" from stabman was anything but friendly. I did not reply in the same tone as the unfriendly one that I perceived, rather I simply asked, "And can anyone tell me why some people think they can give others orders on the Net?" Stabman replied with name calling. If you think it's "pissy" to reply to such rudeness with sarcasm, I wonder how you'd characterize the name calling? Interesting that you made no such comment to anyone else who engaged in rude behavior in the thread!
It seems that you missed the part where I wrote, "I've found that some knife makers don't want any money up−front for a custom, some want a deposit and some want it fully paid up−front." Back then Mr. Emerson said that he wanted to be paid up front and so I agreed. That's not "bad on" anyone. It's a simple business agreement. In fact it's the way that business is USUALLY DONE! Does Amazon ship you a book BEFORE you pay for it? Does Ralph's let you carry the groceries out to your car BEFORE you pay for them? If you ordered a production knife from Emerson Specwar Knives, Inc. today, would they ship it BEFORE you paid for it? The only difference with this order was the time that was to have elapsed between first payment and delivery. In fact, the way that I worked out the payments, it was paid−in−full at exactly the time that Mr. Emerson told me that it would be ready.
Had Mr. Emerson simply explained what was going on with the development of his new business I might still be waiting and happy to do so. The main issue were the lack of responses to my phone calls and the constant run−around I got from his employees and Mr. Emerson as well. At one point the man looked me right in the eye and lied to me! That seems to be OK with you. My standards are somewhat different.
No, you're wrong, he didn't reply. Not until I threatened legal action via certified mail. And then there was no explanation, only a refund of the money that I'd sent him. It seems that you've missed quite a bit here.
I don't know about "sav[ing]" anyone. People have been told of one incident. As expected some fan boys have jumped on their usual wagon. Some folks have said that they'd prefer not to do business with someone who treats a customer as he treated me. Everyone has more information than they did before, some are pissed off, some are happy they've received the information and some have been entertained by the silliness of some posts.
I took it as one. All that it would have taken to change my mind was an explanation of how it was intended. That didn't come until a few more exchanges.
But NDJeep, I've read my responses to stabman a few times now and still can't find what you refer to as "the name−calling in return." Can you please show me where I've called him any names?
I knew when I started out that I'd get varied responses from people. I really don't care that you are "done caring about my plight." But thanks for contributing; it resulted allowed me to clear up a few of your misconceptions and some things that you'd gotten dead wrong.
As far as "let[ing] it go" ... I'm over the ill feelings I used to harbor towards Mr. Emerson. (Im sure he's greatly relieved. lol) But I'll never forget how I was treated. I doubt that anyone else would either. You and some others have taken time out of your busy schedules (I'm guessing here) to read this thread and then to write your thoughts about the incident, my response to it, some responses to my responses (and so on). The least I can do is correct your errors and mistaken beliefs by responding to your posts.
Wow. That's alot of words, Lou. LOL
You can keep on a 'postin'' and es'plainin' if ya want....but I think we get it.
