Emerson knives

Almost any sharp knife can serve as an emergency self-defense weapon, but Emersons, regardless of their design, are not optimized for knife-fighting. The Karambit/La Griffe are notable exceptions, but they are dramatically different from most other Emersons. A purpose-built fighting knife does not need a strong blade- it needs either a thin, narrow dagger shape with a very fine piercing tip; or a long, smooth single edge with a lot of belly for slashing. Emersons will serve their purpose in knife fighting due to their strength, because they will survive more abuse than most other knives. However, they are not the best fighters- too thick to penetrate easily, and generally not enough belly for slashing. The Al Mar Ultralight series are good defensive folders: scalpel-sharp, fantastic piercing tips, and super thin blades for deep penetration. But my Falcon Ultralight will snap in half at the first sign of twisting or prying, whereas my Emerson will shrug it off and keep on going. Different knives for different purposes.

Yes, my opinions are based on my experience with the Mini 7B, which is what I have. Emersons "will work" for EDC tasks, and I have used my Emerson in just that capacity. It is just not optimized for that sort of thing. Every knife is a compromise, trading some functions for others, and Emersons generally give up "light duty" versatility for "heavy duty" ruggedness and strength.

what you need for a SD knife and what knife is good in that role is very subjective, some folks say a CQC8 is as good as it gets for that, imho a handle which you can grip securely is one of the "must haves" and imho a al mar ultra lite doesnt fill that criteria very well, and i cant say i see them touted as SD folders very often, in fact this may be the first time lol, but if it works for you its all good, imho they arent anywhere near as good in that role as a emerson '13, '12 or '8 though.

as far as EKI being designed mostly for SD i have seen ernie post that they are designed mostly for SD and if anyone would know it would be him, right?
 
what you need for a SD knife and what knife is good in that role is very subjective, some folks say a CQC8 is as good as it gets for that, imho a handle which you can grip securely is one of the "must haves" and imho a al mar ultra lite doesnt fill that criteria very well, and i cant say i see them touted as SD folders very often, in fact this may be the first time lol, but if it works for you its all good, imho they arent anywhere near as good in that role as a emerson '13, '12 or '8 though.

as far as EKI being designed mostly for SD i have seen ernie post that they are designed mostly for SD and if anyone would know it would be him, right?

You're right, the requirements for a self-defense folder can be very subjective. As far as I am concerned, the most likely occasion in which I would fight with a knife would be against an unarmed opponent with basic to moderate fighting skill, wearing light or medium-heavy clothing. I fight almost exclusively with the reverse grip, for which handle design is almost irrelevant so long as the thumb is correctly locked on top of the pommel. The reverse grip also emphasizes precise, close-range stabbing over long-range thrusting or slashing. For that particular application, I need a lightweight, very quick knife with a razor-sharp edge, a full flat or hollow grind, a thin blade, and an extremely pointed tip. My Falcon Ultralight fits all those requirements, plus it is thin and light enough that it is supremely easy to carry. My Small Sebenza works also, but it will not pierce as well- one of the advantages to stabbing in the reverse grip is that the technique can be used with virtually any sharp or pointed object at hand- an ice pick, a steak knife, a fountain pen, and yes, an Emerson. I'm not saying that I *can't* fight with a heavy-duty, thick-bladed CQC-8 or Commander, just that it's not built properly for the way I fight, and I do of course think that I fight the "right" way :P

A fighting knife does not need to be strong- look at the seminal Fairbairn-Sykes, or its close cousin the Gerber Mark II. With thin, double-edged blades and smooth, symmetrical handles, neither is built for durability. It's likely that most Emerson folders would easily beat the F-S in most, if not all, hard use tests. However, both the F-S and Mark Ii are designed with one purpose only: to kill. Their pointed tips will effortlessly pierce skin and clothing, and their thin blades will easily pass between ribs and slide through muscle tissue and organs. Since World War Ii, more men have probably been killed with those two knives than with any other. I can do chores with my Emerson, I can fix things, I could pry a door open and tear through nylon webbing if I had to, and yes, I could fight with it- but I still do not consider most Emersons to be optimally designed for the common and effective styles of knife fighting.
 
i have edc my non waved cqc-8 for four years, at work(landscaping/construction) at home it is my "american express card".it has probably cut just about anything imaginable, and out of those years, my only problem is a slight wiggle of the blade which developed in the last year. which i must say emerson replied to my email in two days, saying send it in and we will fix it. and as soon as i get a new sheath for my belt knife, it will be in the mail.
 
I carry my SOCFK a lot. I loosened the pivot lightly and it is smooth as glass.Zero blade play and scary sharp.
 
Blade play development is normal for a blade that gets a lot of use though
no? I mean out of the box is not acceptable, but after time I think is OK.
Especially if it can be tightened up again with the pivot screw.
 
Blade play development is normal for a blade that gets a lot of use though
no? I mean out of the box is not acceptable, but after time I think is OK.
Especially if it can be tightened up again with the pivot screw.

If any knife starts developing blade play especially those with liner-locks and frame-locks it is time to send it to the maker for some R&R and some spa treatment IMO. Emerson is known that they will take worn liner locks and and replace them and re-tumble a blade etc. Of course this is not covered by warranty but for a mere (eg.) $25 you get your old trustworthy back. In my book that is great service. :thumbup:
 
I have an Emerson A-100 and I love it. My friend has a CQC-8 I beleive and it's great. He dhas a few reviews on Emersons and other great knives too! His youtube chanel is KnivesnStuff45

Check him out!
 
This is one of the best "treatises" on Emerson Knives. This should be a sticky in the Emerson forum.:thumbup:

Why thank you, sir! If you'd be willing to, uh, do whatever needs to be done to make a sticky, please feel free. Honestly I have no clue- I'm a newbie on the forum.

Also, what kind of boot/boot knife do you have in your avatar? That's not a Frye, is it?
 
Those are some steel toe Carolina Engineers I bought when I was learning to weld. The knife is a Cold Steel Urban Shiv from back in the day. I cut slits into my right boot for a CS tac dagger a few years ago and the Urban Shiv clip fits just right.
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Those are some steel toe Carolina Engineers I bought when I was learning to weld. The knife is a Cold Steel Urban Shiv from back in the day. I cut slits into my right boot for a CS tac dagger a few years ago and the Urban Shiv clip fits just right.

That's a beautiful setup, just perfect. My favorite boots are my Frye Brando Engineers- a little less rugged and tough-looking than the Carolinas, a little more polished and slick to go with what I wear. I really think that every man should own a pair of good engineers- there is no better boot!

I'd love to put together a boot knife setup like yours. If I can ever bring myself to slice up my Fryes, I'll try it out.
 
I will mod any of my equipment if I think it is an improvement.
 
My Mini 7 was a despicable creature out of the box: rough, gritty, stiff, and slow as can be. I stripped it down, cleaned it out with WD-40, and lubed it with Hoppe's (all I had at the time). I have no idea how so much black junk and steel shavings got in there, but afterwards the difference was dramatic....

You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you don't thoroughly clean and oil your Emerson immediately after receiving it. One of EKI's biggest benefits is that their knives are so easy to disassemble, so take advantage of it.

My daughters got me a Horseman for Christmas and I was having the same problem. After reading your post, I disassembled the knife, cleaned it and lubed it with a little WD-40...it made a huge difference. This knife is my favorite.

Thanks to the forum and mrpinkbullets.

Jim
 
My daughters got me a Horseman for Christmas and I was having the same problem. After reading your post, I disassembled the knife, cleaned it and lubed it with a little WD-40...it made a huge difference. This knife is my favorite.

Thanks to the forum and mrpinkbullets.

Jim

You're very welcome! I'm glad you're satisfied with your Emerson...for the price, I believe there is really no better all-around tactical knife maker. You can also experiment with some different lubes. People have had good results with Hoppes No. 9 Lubricating Oil, Rem Oil, and others. I'd recommend against thicker products, like CRK's Fluorinated Grease or Benchmade Blue Lube, as Emersons are fitted quite tightly and a thicker lube will slow down the pivot action.
 
You're very welcome! I'm glad you're satisfied with your Emerson...for the price, I believe there is really no better all-around tactical knife maker. You can also experiment with some different lubes. People have had good results with Hoppes No. 9 Lubricating Oil, Rem Oil, and others. I'd recommend against thicker products, like CRK's Fluorinated Grease or Benchmade Blue Lube, as Emersons are fitted quite tightly and a thicker lube will slow down the pivot action.

Thanks for the advice...the WD-40 made a huge difference but, since I've got some Hoppes No. 9 in my pistol bag, I'll try a light coat on the pivot areas the next time I take it apart for cleaning.

I agree with your assessment of Emerson. I have to admit I probably wouldn't have spent the money on the knife myself, but after carrying it and using it I've come to realize my daughters are smarter than me.
 
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