Emerson "lethal Edge" pocket clips

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Perused Patrick Ma's selection of new items fresh from the Blade Show. One of the items which the subject line denotes, a sort of a special edition pocket clip.

www.tripleaughtdesign.com/custom_emerson_clips.htm

Personally these clips fall on the dark side of bad taste. Emerson's reputation has its foundation in his knives and designs being function oriented a quiet understated professionalism. The skull, aside from more than a passing resemblance to the SS "death's head", logo is a radical departure from this and denotes something more suitable to an ad in Soldier of Fortune. Let the tool speak for itself.



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Hey chrisjohn!

I'm not agreeing with you here, i see your point but i took it on the more homourous side.

I don't really think that it resembles a SS skull that much, a skull is a skull of course but to say SS as soon as we see a skull i feel is a bit too much.
Nothing bad meant to you, i respect your view, i just wanted to air my thinking on the subject.
If i offende you or seemed rude i truly apologize
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ChrisJohn,
I don't even remotely see your point.
I do respect your opinion and value it.
I like them.
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ChrisJohn,
I think that the skull logo is obviously a departure from Ernie's previous logos which are typically very businesslike. The skull has allot of character due to its comic book style of illustration which is unlike anything Ernie has done before. He's got kinda a funny look about him if you ask me. I dont take him as much of a menace.
As far as the Lethal Edge Skull bearing a likeness to the Nazi SS Death's Head well, frankly I don't see it. The SS Skull is viewed from a 3/4 perspective as well as having the crossbones. Also, there is the complete difference in artistic style.

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My only comment would be : IMHO If you were in court (civil or criminal) and you had seriously injured a person (even in self defense) the skull could be used against you the same way carrying a knife marked 'born killer' or 'blade of death'. The lawyers try to paint you as someone just looking for an excuse to do bad deeds. Heck, sometimes just carring a blade makes you the perp instead of the victem defending himself. Any lawyers out there? The same argument has been used successfully to sue a person who shot in self defense. Not guilty in criminal court BUT found liable in civil court because the bullets used were 'special purpose bullets meant to cause massive trauma' as iI said before my opinion.
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I feel that the white skull on a black clip would draw too much attention to the knife when clipped to the pants pocket. More then that of a silver clip or lightly color clip because of the contrasting colored logo.
Just my thoughts.
 
John,
Sorry you do not like it. It really is just a skull. I have one on my daily carry Commander and most feedback has been pretty positive. Simply looking for a few simple options that people can dress up our knives with.

I know Patrick (000) bought 10 or so at the Blade show and has sold all of them.

Take care,
Derek

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Totenkopf? I don't think that the Emerson skull looks like one. Here is a jpg of a totenopf:

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I tend to agree that should you have to use your knife in self defense, that the skull would be difficult to explain.

Walt
 
Walt, good to see an long time poster, so many of the names are new these days, and as usual you contribute some pertinant information.

Didn't make a reference to a Totenkopf insignia as there are undoubtedly some readers who wouldn't understand the reference.

It just looks unprofessional to me. Let me be clear that my intent in this thread is not to get a concensus of "I am right and Emerson Knives is wrong", just wanted to express what I feel is a departure from their usual high quality understated funtional knives. Hey it's an optional clip, for those who like them, outstanding. Now if I could just get Ernie to run a batch of production waved CQC8's!

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Its so cute. You have this skull and he's frowning! Awww....
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I think I have to get one for my CQC-7 (thats hasn't arrived yet, but will). But $30 is a lot of $$$ for a pocket clip.

Actually that got me thinking..... are the Benchmade clips interchangeable with Emerson? I think it would be funny to put on the BM Ares. You have a purple knife, and it has a cute little skull on it.
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The only other reason than price (reasons not to get it) are that I'm afraid if the cops bust me, the law won't be thrilled with a skull (they won't find it as cute as I would).

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I was wondering the same thing, Are Benchmade clips interchangeable with Emerson ones, Anyone know??
I am mainly a Benchmade fan but I almost cant resist on this thing, it is just so cool looking, also how much were these clips selling for at BLADE??
THANKS

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The Emerson Customs use the same identical pattern of the Benchmade. In fact Emerson apparently used to put Benchmade clips on various models of his customs. I just received a CQC8 with a factory Benchmade clip, that seems a little strange, but I did check to see and the Emerson and Benchmade clip are interchangeable.
 
In that case would anyone happen to have one for sale?? I have paypal...
Also how much were the clips selling for at the show??
THANKS
 
Derek

I didn't think to ask at the show, just how "limited" are these? Personally, I think they should be an option on the new "Custom/Production" line.

The C/P examples ya'll had at the show were awesome. I can't wait until I can order up a set of dress Commanders.

Thanks again for the hospitality a the show.

John
 
Does anybody know where I can find the new clip. I know I'm late in looking for one, but I hope there are still some available.
 
Patrick was the only dealer I know of that was selling the pocket clips. His site says he is sold out, but you might want to contact him anyway.

You may also try Emerson Knives to see if they have any left.

Hope this helps

John
 
I have a lethal edge clip. I ordered two but only got one as they sold out pretty quick. I put it on my CQC-7 and I think it looks cool. I like to wear it to church. If the police or anyone else has a problem with it, tough. What happened to free speech? Ernie designs weapons to cut people with, if you think any different you are fooling yourself. Anyone not comfortable with that should not be carrying a knife, You people need to get real.
 
Scott Dog; my suggestion to you is to put a good criminal lawyer on retainer. You may well need him.

Using a knife for self defense has an image of evil associated with it. This is not logical, but is the way that it is.

An elderly man was accosted by three young thugs. He defended himself with two butterfly knives; he was trained in a FMA. He inflicted some 200 lacerations on the three young men before they decided to stop assaulting him after about one minute. None of the lacerations were life threatening. Despite several corroborating witnesses who attested to his innocence of wrongdoing, he was indicted and brought to trial. The judge simply could not believe that he had inflicted so many wounds in the one minute encounter. The defense lawyer brought in two heavy boxing bags into court, gave the old man two butterfly knives, and started his stopwatch. There were over 200 lacerations in the two bags when one minute elapsed.

Even in this extreme case of obvious self defense, considerable funds were expended on a lawyer, and considerable time was spent in court.

You want to put a skull on your knife? Go right ahead. I, however, suggest that it is you who needs to 'get real.'

Walt
 
Its cool how a simple thread regarding logo usage on a pocket clip evokes the more profound topic of the legal ramifications of deadly force in self defense.
We all have a personal responsibility to know and understand the law regarding the use of deadly force. Whether we choose to accept this responsibility is the real issue.
By accepting it we take the steps necessary to verse ourselves in the legal definition of deadly force and its legally permissable application so that we may act accordingly if the situation arises. This in no way limits us from defending ourselves however we must in dire circumstances. It does however insure that we do not unecessarily break the law without realizing it.
Ignoring or avoiding this responsibility is a liability that will very likely result in criminal activity by reason of ignorance or indifference and both are equal in the eyes of the justice system. An attitude of "tough" simply does not suffice in addressing these issues.
Scott dog you should assume that if you defend yourself with that knife of yours then you will be standing before a judge at some point and the knife complete with its skull clip will be brought bear against you legally. Imagine how a lawyer would resopond to your reply of "right of free speech". He would probably agree that you do indeed have the right of free speech and then ask you just what you were trying to say with your knife with a skull on it.


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