Emerson on Emails

bernard_s3 said:
Here we go! This is the Emerson sub-forum, not Spyderco. I don't wanna come across as a dbag but Spyderco's warranty isn't as liberal as Emerson's. If your lock bar traveled all they way over, send it in. Or, take it apart, and look at it yourself, do that to your Spyderco Military... and they void your warranty.
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The ''only'' reason I brought up a Spyderco knife in the discussion, was the for the sake of comparing a liner lock knife against another, that's it, end of the story. I wasn't comparing warranties because that is an entirely different topic and would be totally irrelevant in this thread. I've tried to remain somewhat respectul while still speaking my mind.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Linerlocks can travel eventually all the way over and hit the opposite liner. At that point, they need to be adjusted. Do it yourself or send it in.

There is no other answer.
Same situation for any company.
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Ok - it looks like there's no way around this - I'll have a look around in order to find out how hard it can be for one to do this on his own.
 
legion681 said:
You can't possibly know how many people that own a Spyderco Military have/have had a problem with the lock bar in that knife. Hence your phrase is just pure speculation based on zero facts. By the way, go to the Spyderco section of this forum and see if there are any threads about issues with Spyderco knives. Well, I can save you some time here: yes there are. And that's absolutely normal, I can't imagine any manufacturer never ever having any problem with their knives (do note that my collection is made up of about 50% Spyderco knives. I am not biased against them AT ALL. Yes, I do own a Military too, a black coated blade w/ camo handles. It's a great knife, imo).

Then, what are you trying to achieve when you bring in the conversation a knife from another competitor in the EMERSON forum? 1) It's completely irrelevant + not related to the problem with your knife 2) I hope you are not hoping to receive any comment from someone from Emerson about Spyderco knives + the quality of their liner locks and/or how it relates to Emerson products? Never gonna happen (and rightfully so, might I add).

Writing walls of text (like you did in the other thread you started about this) won't help the lock bar of your knife: sending it in for repair will. If that's something that you don't want to do, just sell it and get yourself something else (yes, like a Spyderco Military for example or splurge and get yourself a Sebenza). Problem solved.
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You seem to be saying that I said/wrote that other knife makers don't run into problems of their own - I don't think I've ever said/wrote that. You're correct that I can't know exactly how many people who own a Spyderco military have had problem with it's liner lock, just like I can't know exactly how many have had the same problem owning Emerson Knives - I wasn't comparing the whole knife against another - I was only comparing one aspect of the knife ; it's liner lock mechanism against another, no more no less. I have no interest in finding just how many folks have had issues with their Military over any other EKIs - this is pointless - I base my say on my readings on the Spyderco forums - I've spent a good deal of time on knife forums over the last few years and I could be wrong, but I don't recall reading many issues having to do with the liner lock on a mili. I'm not trying to manipulate data or facts here, I'm relating what my experience has been. One poster mentioned that the reason the liner lock on a mili doesn't seem to travel across just as fast as a Ti lock bar, is because it uses SS. That was enough to answer my question and no one was offended.

I think that Mr. Emerson has a fair amount of respect for Mr. Sal Glesser - Mr. Glesser has used Mr. Emerson's wave feature and Mr. Emerson has used the spydie hole. Mr. Glesser is a competitor of Mr. Emerson, but I think that ends right there. Mr. Emerson doesn't cater to the same clientele. I think many will agree that neither of the above mentioned company need to fear one another, because they both cater to two entirely different crowds. Emerson has a following and so does Spyderco, but for different reasons. I don't think you can compare the two companies - now, I can hear you exclaim : but that's what you did ! No, if you read what I've written, I'm not comparing the two companies side by side comparing each and every aspects of the companies in order to find out which is the best - I was just comparing one locking mechanism to another - but you might add : but that locking mechanism is by Spyderco isn't it ? Yes it is by Spyderco, but I could've picked any other company, but since I only buy from the main knife manufacturers, I picked Spyderco because I know about their knives and not that from other makers using liner locks.

I haven't seem Mr. Ernest Emerson go to war against Mr. Glesser because the name of Mr. Glesser's company was mentioned in the Emerson forum. I do think both have healthy respect for one another for a number of reasons in addition to those I mentioned above. However, I've seen owners of either companies go to war over a number of reasons. I think I've made it clear that I liked Emerson knives - hey, I have 5 of them, isn't that proof enough ? I can only think what you'd have said had I not said I liked Emerson knives.

I could be wrong, but from where I sit, I detect fanboyism and aggressivity in your remarks - Mr. Emerson is an outspoken man but he hasn't spoken to me the way you have. We could go on with this for many more posts, but I doubt it'd be worthwhile.
 
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abcdefg said:
Pleasse don't embarras canadian Emerson customers. No matter which folding knife you buy, eventually you're going to have to send it in for manufacturer's servicing. If you're not comfortable sending your USA made knives across the border, why not just buy a canadian made knife?

Looks like it's your lucky day: http://www.ckg.org/2012/01/25/2012-guildshow-dates/

Lots of canadians own Emerson knives and have been satisfied with Emerson's service.
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When I mentioned I wasn't comfortable sending knives across the border, did you notice the ''I'' ? I don't see why this would embarrass other Emerson Knives owners - it's for each individual to decided whether they're comfortable to send their knives across the border for maintance. You don't have to be mad at me because ''I'' don't like sending my knives across the border for maintenance. My comments were mine and mine only - I think that each and every owner of Emerson Knives knows this.

More to the point :
Lots of canadians own Emerson knives and have been satisfied with Emerson's service.
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Then why should ''they'' feel embarassed ? Because one person says he's not comfortable sending their knives across the border, it automatically puts every other Emerson Knives owners to shame ? My opinion is just a drop of water in the bucket, so you don't have to worry.
 
Thank God, I mentioned I have 5 Emerson knives and that I do like many features of EKIs - judging by the above comments, I guess someone would have sent someone to my place to physically harm me :). Come on guys, take it easy, they're knives - awesome knives, yeah, but knives nonetheless - they don't afford any super powers - too bad though.
 
Dear Mr Emerson,
clearly I think you spend too much time on emails :) Make more knives you lazy bugger I want more more :)

Guess you just cant please everyone. Oh and Mary is nicer on the phone than you to :) haha
 
chipdouglas said:
You seem to be saying that I said/wrote that other knife makers don't run into problems of their own - I don't think I've ever said/wrote that. You're correct that I can't know exactly how many people who own a Spyderco military have had problem with it's liner lock, just like I can't know exactly how many have had the same problem owning Emerson Knives - I wasn't comparing the whole knife against another - I was only comparing one aspect of the knife ; it's liner lock mechanism against another, no more no less. I have no interest in finding just how many folks have had issues with their Military over any other EKIs - this is pointless - I base my say on my readings on the Spyderco forums - I've spent a good deal of time on knife forums over the last few years and I could be wrong, but I don't recall reading many issues having to do with the liner lock on a mili. I'm not trying to manipulate data or facts here, I'm relating what my experience has been. One poster mentioned that the reason the liner lock on a mili doesn't seem to travel across just as fast as a Ti lock bar, is because it uses SS. That was enough to answer my question and no one was offended.

I think that Mr. Emerson has a fair amount of respect for Mr. Sal Glesser - Mr. Glesser has used Mr. Emerson's wave feature and Mr. Emerson has used the spydie hole. Mr. Glesser is a competitor of Mr. Emerson, but I think that ends right there. Mr. Emerson doesn't cater to the same clientele. I think many will agree that neither of the above mentioned company need to fear one another, because they both cater to two entirely different crowds. Emerson has a following and so does Spyderco, but for different reasons. I don't think you can compare the two companies - now, I can hear you exclaim : but that's what you did ! No, if you read what I've written, I'm not comparing the two companies side by side comparing each and every aspects of the companies in order to find out which is the best - I was just comparing one locking mechanism to another - but you might add : but that locking mechanism is by Spyderco isn't it ? Yes it is by Spyderco, but I could've picked any other company, but since I only buy from the main knife manufacturers, I picked Spyderco because I know about their knives and not that from other makers using liner locks.

I haven't seem Mr. Ernest Emerson go to war against Mr. Glesser because the name of Mr. Glesser's company was mentioned in the Emerson forum. I do think both have healthy respect for one another for a number of reasons in addition to those I mentioned above. However, I've seen owners of either companies go to war over a number of reasons. I think I've made it clear that I liked Emerson knives - hey, I have 5 of them, isn't that proof enough ? I can only think what you'd have said had I not said I liked Emerson knives.

I could be wrong, but from where I sit, I detect fanboyism and aggressivity in your remarks - Mr. Emerson is an outspoken man but he hasn't spoken to me the way you have. We could go on with this for many more posts, but I doubt it'd be worthwhile.
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You see, your problem is your..."detector". You think you "detect" stuff and instead you get it all wrong.

Examples:
- me being an Emerson fanboy: you seem to have missed the part when I mentioned that Spydercos make up about half of my collection. If I'd ever be a fanboy of any knife maker, just by sheer numbers it ought to be Spyderco, NOT Emerson.
- me being "aggressive": I am being direct, not aggressive.
- me saying you said that other knife makers don't have problems with their knives: never said/implied/inferred that in any way, shape or form.

My message in reply to you is very self explanatory and clear. I can't do any better than that. Might I add that I am also not interested in
continuing this dialogue, since in my reply I addressed what you said about knives and on the other hand you decided to come back with personal stuff (fanboyism + falsely
talking about aggressivity) - not cool - and also another wall of text that in all honesty doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
Bought my first Emerson Custom based on the incredibly humble and down to earth interview you did with Nutnfancy( and that says alot, since I can't stand the guy)

Keep up what you're doing brotha.
 
chipdouglas said:
Thank God, I mentioned I have 5 Emerson knives and that I do like many features of EKIs - judging by the above comments, I guess someone would have sent someone to my place to physically harm me :). Come on guys, take it easy, they're knives - awesome knives, yeah, but knives nonetheless - they don't afford any super powers - too bad though.
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I agree with your frustration Chip. It's not just EKI knives but any knives including autos. It's never been easy (or inexpensive) sending knives north or south of the border. Lots of stupid laws infringing on good people.:cool:
 
Wunderbar said:
I agree with your frustration Chip. It's not just EKI knives but any knives including autos. It's never been easy (or inexpensive) sending knives north or south of the border. Lots of stupid laws infringing on good people.:cool:
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This is exactly what I meant :)
 
legion681 said:
You see, your problem is your..."detector". You think you "detect" stuff and instead you get it all wrong.

Examples:
- me being an Emerson fanboy: you seem to have missed the part when I mentioned that Spydercos make up about half of my collection. If I'd ever be a fanboy of any knife maker, just by sheer numbers it ought to be Spyderco, NOT Emerson.
- me being "aggressive": I am being direct, not aggressive.
- me saying you said that other knife makers don't have problems with their knives: never said/implied/inferred that in any way, shape or form.

My message in reply to you is very self explanatory and clear. I can't do any better than that. Might I add that I am also not interested in
continuing this dialogue, since in my reply I addressed what you said about knives and on the other hand you decided to come back with personal stuff (fanboyism + falsely
talking about aggressivity) - not cool - and also another wall of text that in all honesty doesn't make a lot of sense.
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I didn't miss that part when you mentioned having many Spyderco knives - it's the perceived tone of your response to me and your giving Mr. Emerson's post two thumbs-up that alerted me to think you might be a Emerson fanboy in disguise - also, your insisting on not being biased AT ALL and having many more Spyderco knives than Emerson's as part of your collection, could be a strategy that one could make use of to pass the kind of comments you did, without for people to think you're biased to EKI's - it might not be what you are, but let's just say you wouldn't be the first to make use of this cunning strategy, especially over the internet - obviously, the people who are guilty of this type of deceptive behaviors will pretent not to understand a thing of what one is saying or that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, or they'll try to otherwise disparage that poster through whatever means comes to mind in order not to lose face. You and only you know whether I'm right or wrong in saying that.

I wonder just why one would reply with quotes and give Mr. Emerson's post two thumbs-up (clearly, you wanted Mr. Emerson and others to know you wholeheartedly endorsed what Mr. Emerson wrote) - the question is just why, while the vast majority of people who read this thread never bothered showing their written support - Why does one want his nickname to be clearly associated with liking what Mr. Ernest Emerson wrote (not that there's anything wrong with what Mr. Emerson wrote). Perhaps I woud reply with quotes and give Mr. Emerson's post two thumbs-up because I'd like for him to know that I endorse what he wrote and I am behind him or support him.

But then again, what's the true motivation behind this public statement of yours. There's a 100% chance you won't acknowledge what I wrote above, because for you to do so, you'd have to be a different person.

Also, let's keep this in perspective, many people have viewed this thread and my original one - most of them probably like EKIs too, but why didn't they comment and why have you ? What's more, I'm sure there are other people who feel I'm partially right in what I wrote, but those people won't post, because they don't want to become involved in what more often than not becomes flame wars.

I'll stop this here, irrelevant of whether you answer or not, because this will just never end, until a mod locks this thread and it's best not to get there.
 
chipdouglas said:
I didn't miss that part when you mentioned having many Spyderco knives - it's the perceived tone of your response to me and your giving Mr. Emerson's post two thumbs-up that alerted me to think you might be a Emerson fanboy in disguise - also, your insisting on not being biased AT ALL and having many more Spyderco knives than Emerson's as part of your collection, could be a strategy that one could make use of to pass the kind of comments you did, without for people to think you're biased to EKI's - it might not be what you are, but let's just say you wouldn't be the first to make use of this cunning strategy, especially over the internet - obviously, the people who are guilty of this type of deceptive behaviors will pretent not to understand a thing of what one is saying or that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, or they'll try to otherwise disparage that poster through whatever means comes to mind in order not to lose face. You and only you know whether I'm right or wrong in saying that.

I wonder just why one would reply with quotes and give Mr. Emerson's post two thumbs-up (clearly, you wanted Mr. Emerson and others to know you wholeheartedly endorsed what Mr. Emerson wrote) - the question is just why, while the vast majority of people who read this thread never bothered showing their written support - Why does one want his nickname to be clearly associated with liking what Mr. Ernest Emerson wrote (not that there's anything wrong with what Mr. Emerson wrote). Perhaps I woud reply with quotes and give Mr. Emerson's post two thumbs-up because I'd like for him to know that I endorse what he wrote and I am behind him or support him.

But then again, what's the true motivation behind this public statement of yours. There's a 100% chance you won't acknowledge what I wrote above, because for you to do so, you'd have to be a different person.

Also, let's keep this in perspective, many people have viewed this thread and my original one - most of them probably like EKIs too, but why didn't they comment and why have you ? What's more, I'm sure there are other people who feel I'm partially right in what I wrote, but those people won't post, because they don't want to become involved in what more often than not becomes flame wars.

I'll stop this here, irrelevant of whether you answer or not, because this will just never end, until a mod locks this thread and it's best not to get there.
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Chipdouglas, I think you are completely insane. A total nutcase.

You see/invent conspiracies where there are none (me mentioning that I have more Spydies than any other knife is a "cunning strategy"? Really?). You see hidden agendas when
I agree on something that someone said (have you ever agreed with anyone and made a point to say it just for the sake of it?). You talk about "nicknames clearly associated" with something/someone like it would be something that actually would mean something in real life (it's the darn internet and we're talking about knives, it's not the Resolution Council of the UNO and the decision whether to intervene in Syria and/or Iran or not...). You actually spend time thinking over and over why I made a comment on a thread while other people haven't, like it would bear some sort of importance: really? And the list could go on and on...

If you tell me you don't see a problem there, then you definitely have a problem. You need to seek medical help (a mental health clinic or professional(s)). If you see a problem, you're already on the path of getting better but I get the feeling you have a long way to go.

Dude, get well soon. In the mean time though stay the hell away from me because I am freaked out by people with mental problems. Thanks.
 
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legion681 said:
Chipdouglas, I think you are completely insane. A total nutcase.

You see/invent conspiracies where there are none (me mentioning that I have more Spydies than any other knife is a "cunning strategy"? Really?). You see hidden agendas when
I agree on something that someone said (have you ever agreed with anyone and made a point to say it just for the sake of it?). You talk about "nicknames clearly associated" with something/someone like it would be something that actually would mean something in real life (it's the darn internet and we're talking about knives, it's not the Resolution Council of the UNO and the decision whether to intervene in Syria and/or Iran or not...). You actually spend time thinking over and over why I made a comment on a thread while other people haven't like it would bear some sort of importance: really???

If you tell me you don't see a problem there, you have a problem. You need to seek medical help (a mental health clinic or professional(s)). If you see a problem, you're on the
path of getting better, as you recognize you have a problem.

Dude, get well soon. In the mean time though stay the hell away from me because I am freaked out by people with mental problems. Thanks.

You mea
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I rest my case really, though my point was that what I said ''could've'' been the case - not necessarily is. Overall, I'll agree this is pretty trivial, let's forget about it and move on.
 
chipdouglas said:
I rest my case really, though my point was that what I said ''could've'' been the case - not necessarily is. Overall, I'll agree this is pretty trivial, let's forget about it and move on.
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You rest your case? Yep, you have a problem: it's fully confirmed now. So long, fare well, all the best.
 
legion681 said:
You rest your case? Yep, you have a problem: it's fully confirmed now. So long, fare well, all the best.
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Perhaps you happen to have great interest in the Stephen Stahl's work. I wish this were more of an appropriate place to pursue this discussion (although it's clearly not), as I find it to be somewhat interesting. What I find to be rather interesting in you (and me and plenty of other human beings) is what's called : will to power. It's an interesting concept by Friedrich Nietzsche. You know you're right, yet you feel compelled to put me down somehow << this is what I find to be genuinely interesting, up to a point where I no longer feel annoyed. But feel free to drop me a pm should you feel like going deeper into the rabbit hole of psychoneuropharmacology and other behavioral issues. Be well.
 
You both are embarrasing me.
I wasn't a fan of Emerson knives for the longest time (based on a CQC-7 that I destroyed in my jackass days)
But that has certainly changed over the past year, simply because of your attitude here on BFs and the way you have handled some of the more recent complaints on your products.
When I had a problem, your customer service handled it perfectly.
Much respect, and keep up the good work.
 
Do people not know how to multi-quote or do they just post books from devices that can't utilize it?
 
Love Emerson knives, I've called the shop a few times with questions and sent questions via e-mail, always been treated great. In todays market that says alot You guys care about your customers, and that's what has made me an emerson customer. Keep up the good work. To the others talking about your lock, send the knife in or fix it, Don't hi jack someones thread like that start a new one.
 
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