Emerson update unboxing

MOhunter92

MOhunter92

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Well guys, this will be very poorly put together and I apologize. It's the best I could do for today, I had a ton of issues with my phone and it literally took all day to get this up here but I made sure to get it done.

During the original first video, it failed to upload and I had to delete the video in my phone to make room for the next videos. So I had to re do the first one the best I could.

Video 1 http://youtu.be/2gCn26SPtPg

Video 2 http://youtu.be/rIj0SzIhhHc

Video 3 http://youtu.be/CYZUsKeK91c

Closing video http://youtu.be/ptVi6h5s_mo
 
It's an admittedly small sample size but of the eight liner/frame lock knives I own, all eight (including a CQC-7V and a Patriot) exhibit the "lock rock" you demonstrate.

This is what's known as "physics".

The liner of a knife is not magical. If you apply enough pressure to it, it will bend. Period. No discussion. The liner sits at an angle to the contact area on the knife. You are not applying pure longitudinal force to the liner, you are applying a measure of lateral force as well. Of all the knives I have at my side at the moment the ones that exhibit the least movement in that direction are, unsurprisingly, the ones with either the shortest blades (less force multiplication) or thickest liners/frames. There is little movement on a Kershaw Cryo with thick frame and 2.75" blade. On my nearly 4" bladed Patriot I can see the liner itself bending out of the way.

Further, the noise that you're hearing is cause by the force of the blade pushing the liner out of the way. They're pieces of ramped metal. Apply force and they'll start to slide. Again, physics.

Note that I do not address any other points in your videos, only those concerning "lock rock", which is in reality nothing more than you not understanding the forces involved.
 
tacosrgood said:
It's an admittedly small sample size but of the eight liner/frame lock knives I own, all eight (including a CQC-7V and a Patriot) exhibit the "lock rock" you demonstrate.

This is what's known as "physics".

The liner of a knife is not magical. If you apply enough pressure to it, it will bend. Period. No discussion. The liner sits at an angle to the contact area on the knife. You are not applying pure longitudinal force to the liner, you are applying a measure of lateral force as well. Of all the knives I have at my side at the moment the ones that exhibit the least movement in that direction are, unsurprisingly, the ones with either the shortest blades (less force multiplication) or thickest liners/frames. There is little movement on a Kershaw Cryo with thick frame and 2.75" blade. On my nearly 4" bladed Patriot I can see the liner itself bending out of the way.

Further, the noise that you're hearing is cause by the force of the blade pushing the liner out of the way. They're pieces of ramped metal. Apply force and they'll start to slide. Again, physics.

Note that I do not address any other points in your videos, only those concerning "lock rock", which is in reality nothing more than you not understanding the forces involved.
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Don't comment if you're going to talk down on me haha. Nope, the liner shouldn't bend with the pressure I applied on the blade. 3/4 of them don't, so no it shouldn't do that
 
If you buy another Emerson, it should be a PUK. I can't think of a single use for a folder where you could replicate the action required for your "lock failure". I don't care if NASA makes the knife I wouldn't put my hands at risk like that. Oh yeah NASA doesn't make knives, Emerson has made knives for NASA.
 
I think nobody understands what I'm saying. First off, none of you saw the roadhouse before it was sent off. That is the only knife that had lock failure.

I know a lock bar will bend, no shit sherlocks. But with the minute amount of pressure I used it shouldn't. 3 of my Emerson's right now after repair do not have bendy lock bars. Period. The 10 does. It's so minute that I don't mind it.

Don't know where anybody gets off yet again to flame me for a video I was asked to put up. What a joke
 
MOhunter92 said:
I think nobody understands what I'm saying. First off, none of you saw the roadhouse before it was sent off. That is the only knife that had lock failure.

I know a lock bar will bend, no shit sherlocks. But with the minute amount of pressure I used it shouldn't. 3 of my Emerson's right now after repair do not have bendy lock bars. Period. The 10 does. It's so minute that I don't mind it.

Don't know where anybody gets off yet again to flame me for a video I was asked to put up. What a joke
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I don't think YOU understand liner locks. They're not rocket surgery, but if you push on the blade hard enough on the spine side, you can often flex the liner some. Crazily enough, liners are often given a spring temper, to ensure they'll do just that. You've been poking this thing in the eye for several days now. Why don't you just quit while you're ahead, and people still have a little sympathy for you. Because they're losing it quickly with your attitude, and seeing the "issues" with your knives may not have been as bad as was previously thought. Just a little advice, do with it what you want.

Ernie apologized like a man, and let it go. He fixed your knives just like he said, and it seems like all is good. I don't know what more you want. You seem to be hung up on getting a personal call from Ernie or his company, maybe some companionship is in order, and this will fade in importance? I hope you get what you need. Respectfully,

Sam :thumbup:
 
Sam Wilson said:
I don't think YOU understand liner locks. They're not rocket surgery, but if you push on the blade hard enough on the spine side, you can often flex the liner some. Crazily enough, liners are often given a spring temper, to ensure they'll do just that. You've been poking this thing in the eye for several days now. Why don't you just quit while you're ahead, and people still have a little sympathy for you. Because they're losing it quickly with your attitude, and seeing the "issues" with your knives may not have been as bad as was previously thought. Just a little advice, do with it what you want.

Ernie apologized like a man, and let it go. He fixed your knives just like he said, and it seems like all is good. I don't know what more you want. You seem to be hung up on getting a personal call from Ernie or his company, maybe some companionship is in order, and this will fade in importance? I hope you get what you need. Respectfully,

Sam :thumbup:
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What the heck are you talking about? It's hilarious that you think I don't understand this. These came back to me far better than how they originally were.

I apologized "like a man" too I am not hung up on anything. I uploaded these damn videos and spent a lot of time doing it because I was asked to.

I said I am very happy now, and again, I am not putting heavy pressure on the spine of that knife, it bends with minimal pressure but it doesn't bend a lot.

No shit, the liner will bend if enough force is applied. I'm not applying enough that should cause that. End of story.

I am happy, everything is resolved and I have said that. So again, I ask you what the hell are you talking about? How about YOU quit while your ahead.

I didn't feel like putting these videos up, members asked. This has been over with since Ernie apologized and we both stopped jabbing each other.

Respectfully Justin.
 
Mohunter92,

Now you are responding to others the way Emerson initially responded to you........

Many here (including myself) were sympathetic to you in that regard.

I said it before; stop digging
 
I don't care what anybody thinks of me. People are being rude to me now, for putting a video I was asked to put up, after I spent a lot of time doing so and telling me I don't know about liner locks.

If I'm "digging" I'll dig till I hit china and could care less what anybody thinks of it. If people want to throw BS on the table I'll do the same. This is all over and the end result was good.

Nobody else needs to comment flaming me or telling me I don't know about liner locks or I exaggerated the defects of the knives because that's crap.

These are in far, far better working order than when I sent them so none of you know how bad they were before. I proved dates of purchase and everything else I needed to.

It's done, I was finally taken care of, and I'm happy. End of story, let's move on.
 
Justin,

Actually in your videos and the other thread you were very concerned about what Emerson and others thought of you....It is very ironic how the abused now becomes the abuser..

Best luck


Paul
 
Time to just let it go, walk away, and focus on what is important. Internet pissing matches don't really do much. Not knowing when to just walk away is worse than responding to every jab, poke, and prod. Don't be that guy, no one is impressed with anyones ability to wallow in muck withe best of em. I guarantee it won't get you anywhere except possibly escorted off the forums.
 
pwerfel said:
Justin,

Actually in your videos and the other thread you were very concerned about what Emerson and others thought of you....It is very ironic how the abused now becomes the abuser..

Best luck


Paul
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Because I was made out by Mr Emerson as a potentially dishonest, free loading whiner, which is not who I am.

He understood that is not who I am, and now members are coming at me saying I don't know about liner locks when in the video I said this is much better than how I sent it and I'm fine with it.

At this point, I'm sick of some members who are still coming up with false accusations towards me trying to keep this going. I'm so over it, it's done and still, here I am bickering with more people.

So from this point on, I'm sure more members will come up with other completely false and irrelevant comments but I just simply don't feel like correcting their BS anymore.

Bottom line, I know exactly the components and how they should be in my knives, they are to my satisfaction, I was made out to be something I'm not by Mr Emerson and he realized that and we both apologized for our jabs towards each other.

There's nothing else to talk about here. The vids are there because people asked for them. Not because I thought it would keep this crap going.

I think I've handled this whole situation quite well, and constantly getting flamed will slowly start aggravating me, and snappy comments will result because I'm sick of reading peoples made up jabs towards me.

Like me or hate me, I don't care. But I really don't feel like going on with this anymore. All is well so let's move on and talk Emerson's.
 
Posted the below on the previous thread but it really belongs here

My experience with pocket clip screws are that I am lucky to get them in and out once or twice. I will switch a clip then leave it. It is normal that these small screws are not regularly servicable IMHO. BTW, I would not recommend opening any more beers with the wave part of you roadhouse. Probably messes with your lock maybe?

Glad you have your knives back in good working order. Cheers.
 
My Emerson liners don't bend.. I had a couple that did and sent to my "fix it" guys and they discovered the liners were not flat.. They had to tweek and bend then until they were straight and that fixed the problem.

Also I looked at the liners before sending them off and I never saw the bend.. so whatever bend they say , it must have been very slight as laying them on a table they appeared to be flat. So I asked one of the fix it guys why I did not see a bend and they said there was a slight twist. But I never even noticed it. Botom line is the Emersons were fixed for this problem and it costs only $20.
 
...or maybe it was the lockbar part of the liner that was twisted.. I don't know.. All I know is I got them back fixed.
 
MOhunter92 said:
Nope, the liner shouldn't bend with the pressure I applied on the blade.
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In other words, you're one of the myriad people here and elsewhere that expects metal to be magic material that will easily bend whenever you decide to unlock the knife, but never ever ever give even the slightest when you do something stupid like try to fold it while it's locked.

I have a feeling you were dropped on your head a lot when you were young.
 
tacosrgood said:
In other words, you're one of the myriad people here and elsewhere that expects metal to be magic material that will easily bend whenever you decide to unlock the knife, but never ever ever give even the slightest when you do something stupid like try to fold it while it's locked.

I have a feeling you were dropped on your head a lot when you were young.
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tacosrgood is a previously banned member (dsimmons / thragdar).
 
Lol bladeforums drama

Ime, larger Emerson's may have some lock flex like my friends super roadhouse, so he sold it. Not sure it that's the way it should be
 
Mr. MOhunter92 this is a critique, not criticism of your efforts to tell your story in this post, with you videos. You spent a lot of time & effort telling your story with those U-tubes.

First off to give you the benefit of the doubt, I made the assumption you were only going to review what was in the box returned to you from EMI containing two knives. An end of story Video. But instead of keeping it simple, and review what was in the box.

You took the liberty to post four U-tube rehashing the entire story of your problem, name calling, product rehashing, etc. again.

That story had already been posted on Blade Forum, and could have just been mention that fact. So the viewer of your U-tubes if curious could have found your post on Blade Forum.

BTW I have spoken to employee Ernesto at Emerson as I had a few product questions. I found Ernesto at Emerson on the phone respectful, knowledgeable, and he tried & did answered my question I had about EMI knives.

Last thing Ernesto said to me was if I had more questions, please call back and talk to him if he can help in any way.

If I had a company I would like to have Ernesto on my staff, and he does a great job for his employee EMI.

IMHO your U-tube remind me of the movie, Open Water that took way too long to see the stranded dive drowned die at the end. That movies story was told in the trailer, the movie bored, & confused me, and it was not necessary to see the movie. The trailer was the movie.

BTW ask yourself how many companies would the head man get personally involved in your problem, and post on a public forum for the world to see what was his take was on your problem. How many companies would the head man personally touch the product with problems, try to correct the problem personally, and help his customer. IMHO not many.

What I think I gather after digesting your four U-tubes, yes I watch all four in their entirity is you are still not 110% happy with all your Emerson Knives.

If my assumption wrong please return to the KISS Principal, and summaries your happiness, or unhappiness in a few word so those of us who have been to Rio Linda, CA and influence by the resident lack of intelligence can figure out if you are happy, or no happy at stories end with all four of your Emerson Knives.
 
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