Esee 3 sheath retention is ridiculous.

sd550 said:
The original 4 sheath was kydex and had the adjuster screw.
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I owned the kydex one and no it doesnt have an adjuster screw like the Junglas unless there was an even older version of it I am unaware of. It is not rivited like the molded one though so the normal back plate screws might have more of a tensioning affect.

Here it is...

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And, here is the Junglas sheath. Notice the slot with adjuster screw.

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OK, I stand corrected on the 4 sheath about the adj. screw, but if you use the top holes in the old 4 sheath it will tighten it up also.
 
sd550 said:
OK, I stand corrected on the 4 sheath about the adj. screw, but if you use the top holes in the old 4 sheath it will tighten it up also.
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Yes, they will a bit. I haven't ever seen a case where the molded plastic sheaths are adjustable. They are riveted.
 
I have lots of Esse's ,including 4 -3"s. The retention on the 3 seems to be where the front finger nub on the knife "bounces" over a plastic ridge when it clips into the throat of the sheath. Try taking a small file or fine sandpaper to the area where that knife choil/finger projection contacts it and see if you can smooth it out a bit and try sanding/fitting a few times. Maybe that'll help out. :thumbup:
 
I would contact ESEE customer service, and see what they suggest. If it is a issue with safely removing the knife from the sheath, I am sure they will be glad to help you.
 
FYI, the sheath, handles, and hardware are not covered under the warranty.

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True, but if the problem is a poorly molded sheath, I'm sure they would sort it out. It more that they don't put the bomber warranty on the sheath because they didn't make it out of rowen 1095 :D
 
Thanks again for all the responses.

I tried setting the knife halfway into the sheath for a couple of hours, and this seemed to help. However after putting it back in fully for a few more hours, it's back to it's original state. Easing up on the screws made no difference. I'm going to try leaving the knife halfway in overnight and check it in the morning. I'm hoping leaving it this way for around 24h will "break in" the plastic enough.

My 3 has the original scales.
 
gadgetgeek said:
True, but if the problem is a poorly molded sheath, I'm sure they would sort it out. It more that they don't put the bomber warranty on the sheath because they didn't make it out of rowen 1095 :D
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Rowen 1095 is the exact same metal as all other quality 1095. They make really well designed quality knives, but their warranty is a marketing device and I have received poor responses from the co-owner.

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Every molded plastic Esee sheath I have was very difficult to get out at first. But all of them have broken in and become just about perfect in retention. Just keep using it and I'd bet money it will loosen up.
 
Soes the esee 3 come with a kydex sheath? If so, put the knife in the sheath and take a hair dryer to it for several minutes right at the mouth of the sheath. If it's injected molded plastic then take some sandpaper or a small file to it. It's really not hard to fix some of these issues but you need to accept the knife is yours. Once you get over that hump then you can have the freedom to modify it as you see fit.

Don't be scared. Look for the actual problem and fix it. Not a real issue.
 
Hey OP, if you have the belt clip screwed on to the sheath, try removing it. I found that my Izula sheath had crazy retention with the clip thing on.

Hope that helps!
 
ALLHSS said:
Rowen 1095 is the exact same metal as all other quality 1095. They make really well designed quality knives, but their warranty is a marketing device and I have received poor responses from the co-owner.

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But, with a more consistent and higher quality heat treatment then many/most other companies. Better fit and finish as well. As for their warranty, whether it is partly for marketing or not, it is one of the best in the knife industry. There are not many companies that will replace your knife no matter what if you have an issue.
 
Tachead7075 said:
But, with a more consistent and higher quality heat treatment then many/most other companies. Better fit and finish as well. As for their warranty, whether it is partly for marketing or not, it is one of the best in the knife industry. There are not many companies that will replace your knife no matter what if you have an issue.
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There's no magical heat treat of 1095. I agree that they likely are very consistent with a high quality heat treat. However, tests show that it doesn't improve performance to a considerable degree.

That has not been my experience. I had to drag any modicum of service out of them, and I don't like pushing that kind of thing or having to take advantage of things like that. Their warranty is vague at best and possibly deceptive in their wording. They use a picture of a knife that someone shot as an example that they will replace a knife with no questions, then say that the handle and hardware is not covered by their warranty (and call a customer derogatory names and ask that they don't purchase their knives anymore) if they try to get a REPAIR (not even only a replacement).

On the other hand, there are companies that word their warranties much more restrictively that have provided much better service with much less grief.

I really like several of their designs, but their business practices are not something I want to involve myself in unless there are no comparable options.

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It was a joke. Not many knife makers warranty their sheaths, and the ones that do, have a really solid sheath-maker backing them up. ALLHSS, I feel bad if you got the short end of their attitude, it does rub some the wrong way, but that's not the point we are after.
 
gadgetgeek said:
It was a joke. Not many knife makers warranty their sheaths, and the ones that do, have a really solid sheath-maker backing them up. ALLHSS, I feel bad if you got the short end of their attitude, it does rub some the wrong way, but that's not the point we are after.
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Yeah, you're right. It isn't the point of the thread, but I hate to see someone buy a knife because of its warranty by the suggestions of people who might or might not have experience with the warranty, when I know their advertising is not reality.

I entered this conversation because someone said to send it back so they could fix the sheath, and that is just simply not the case (unless they just wanted to give me bad service).

In my case, the sheath was not the issue.

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ALLHSS said:
There's no magical heat treat of 1095. I agree that they likely are very consistent with a high quality heat treat. However, tests show that it doesn't improve performance to a considerable degree.

That has not been my experience. I had to drag any modicum of service out of them, and I don't like pushing that kind of thing or having to take advantage of things like that. Their warranty is vague at best and possibly deceptive in their wording. They use a picture of a knife that someone shot as an example that they will replace a knife with no questions, then say that the handle and hardware is not covered by their warranty (and call a customer derogatory names and ask that they don't purchase their knives anymore) if they try to get a REPAIR (not even only a replacement).

On the other hand, there are companies that word their warranties much more restrictively that have provided much better service with much less grief.

I really like several of their designs, but their business practices are not something I want to involve myself in unless there are no comparable options.

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He more than likely shared your exchange on their own forums, as he customarily does with any customer he deems to be stupid. I think I am going to go read them and try to guess which one is you.

I have seen others with lesser issues get them resolved by contacting them. Just don't BS them and they will more than likely try to help you. Don't even try to spin it as some safety issue that they have an obligation to fix, just say you think yours is too tight and there might be something wrong with it, they care a lot about customer satisfaction.
 
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ALLHSS said:
They make really well designed quality knives, but their warranty is a marketing device and I have received poor responses from the co-owner.

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would that be about a retired military discount?
 
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