ESEE starting to use A2 and MagnaCut

J. Doyle said:
Too bad there's not a steel similar to 1095 that would deliver better toughness at higher hardness with thinner geometry for the same material and tooling costs.
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shinyedges said:
52-100 😅 80crv2? 5160?
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I was thinking 15n20 or 1075 but yours are good options too.

ESEE does a pretty good job with their products but I never understood taking 1095 and trying to make it "tough" by under tempering and/or thick edges.

Any of those steels would be better.

But 15n20 would amaze a lot of people if they thought 1095 was tough.
 
J. Doyle said:
I was thinking 15n20 or 1075 but yours are good options too.

ESEE does a pretty good job with their products but I never understood taking 1095 and trying to make it "tough" by under tempering and/or thick edges.

Any of those steels would be better.

But 15n20 would amaze a lot of people if they thought 1095 was tough.
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I have not owned a knife in 15n20 unfortunately. I think the list of steels I've used is larger than the ones I haven't, but that one, nope. What is it most comparable to?
 
shinyedges said:
I have not owned a knife in 15n20 unfortunately. I think the list of steels I've used is larger than the ones I haven't, but that one, nope. What is it most comparable to?
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It's basically 1075 with 2% added nickel.

1075 on its own is a pretty fantastic simple carbon steel for big knives. It will give better toughness at higher hardness in thinner geometry over 1095 all day long.

Adding the 2% nickel helps further with toughness. They're great hard use steels that will support fine edge geometry.
 
J. Doyle said:
It's basically 1075 with 2% added nickel.

1075 on its own is a pretty fantastic simple carbon steel for big knives. It will give better toughness at higher hardness in thinner geometry over 1095 all day long.

Adding the 2% nickel helps further with toughness. They're great hard use steels that will support fine edge geometry.
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Thank you, if I find a knife I like in it, I'll definitely give it a try.
 
shinyedges said:
Thank you, if I find a knife I like in it, I'll definitely give it a try.
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I think of 15n20 like AEB-L..... In that it's Way better than it "should" be.
And the only reason it's probably not more popular is that it doesn't cost alot.
People Want to spend a lot of money to make themselves feel special.
 
LostCause said:
Just saw the news, and A2 knife is out first (still not available in Europe).

MagnaCut is soon to follow.

Do you think A2 will replace 1095 on most smaller models? Or possibly on all models?
Do you think MagnaCut will fully replace S35VN?


I really like carbon steels and I wanted to try out A2 for a long time (ever since Cold Steel announced it and then never delivered it). So as much as I'm not interested in ESEE at the moment - I can see myself buying one. Unless it'll cost arm and leg (1095 ESEE3 costs 220€ here). So, yeah, I'll buy one if the price is at least somewhat reasonable.

As for MagnaCut... I'm not gonna buy MagnaCut ESEE.

I don't think I'll buy MagnaCut any time soon. Reason is simple. It's spreading everywhere and it's here to stay, so I'm not in a rush. I can see MagnaCut replacing several steels in the future (S30V, S35VN, S45VN, CPM-3V, Cruwear...) so I'll just wait for price drop. And I got 3V at the moment, so I'm happy with that.

What are your thoughts?
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Steels don't replace steels. 1055, and 1075 are still here despite 1095. 440c is still hanging around, although I personally feel it shouldn't, but it is, and boker is asking 443+ for their Vollintegral pieces
 
It looks like the new model, the Sencillo, is out now. It is uncoated and produced by White River Knife and Tool instead of Rowen. It looks like a bigger, thinner Izula II.

It looks like a very useful design, but at the price I'm not super interested.
 
White River makes very nice stuff. Their M1 caper with micarta is $180 so this is cheaper. The large finger guard on the M1 line is very nice though. Wish they would do the M1 in magnacut instead
 
Sencillo Brown Micarta (Stonewashed A2), $165 at bladehq. Me like, just a little too small.
 
J. Doyle said:
I can't imagine A2 adding very much more to the finished cost. I mean the penny-pinching, corner-cutting company that shall not be named made it their bread and butter steel for a long time.
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Your've got me curious about what company you are referring to. Would they happen to be located in Ohio?
 
J. Doyle said:
Lol....I am from that state. My response was a hint at exactly which part of this two part state they were from.
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Haha..... Idk you guys didn't consider it part of yours? 😂
 
J. Doyle said:
Yeah it's a whole weird deal. A lot of it aligns more with Wisconsin than lower Michigan.
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It's funny, I live in Wisconsin, and Idk if I've ever been over there?
Where as I've been to your lower half numerous times
 
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