Evers Forge Works

I Just got two knives I ordered 6months ago And they turned out phenomenal. I didn’t have any communication problems, I would receive a response within a day or two at the most through text. I highly recommend his work just understand it might take a minute to get your order but 6 months in my opinion isn’t bad compared to a lot of other custom knife makers who have even longer waiting times. What would benefit Evers forge works is getting a new website made that payment,Communication,and your custom orders all be done on.
 
Nameless535 said:
Did he resolve the issue for you yet? I still haven't received my order either. I placed mine in March of 23, and I got the same messages you got. Tho he told me it would only be a month or two. Feels like I'm being played.
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I swear if you get your knife before me im going to lose my shit. I tell you that. I been waiting since 2021
 
gdog363 said:
Hello everyone,

In March, I commissioned Evers Forge Works (EFW ) to make 2 knives, upon which I paid the cost of said knives in full, nearly $800. I was never given a lead time.

A couple of weeks after this I sent an email asking for an estimated lead time, and sent a follow-up email another 2 weeks later due to not receiving a reply on my first attempt. It was not until early May, when I commented on his Instagram that I had sent an email, that I received a reply which contained the following;

“Woop Lord surely didn't. It has been rather crazy though!
Regardless should be done and shipped in the second order block this coming Monday! Can't Tha k you enough for all your patience!”

After still not receiving my knives a month later, I elected to contact him via Instagram on June 5th as this is what worked last time. I again had to notify him via a comment on a post that I messaged him to receive a reply, which contained the following;

“Found ya! And yes brother appreciate all your patience! Been a silly few months getting equipment back up! But plan on having your goodie bag out with Thursdays or Fridays biscuits”

It is now June 28th, once again nearly a month after I was told my knives, which I have paid for, would be completed. I have elected to not contact him a third time until July 5th, which will be a full month after our last contact.

I was wondering if anyone here has any similar experiences with Evers Forge Works, as he seems to have next to no presence or mentions on the forums. Though he does have an impressive following on instagram of nearly 35,000.
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If you got your knife im going to be pretty angry since I've been in line since 2021 and you guys are all on here crying about a few months.
 
GUNZup! said:
I Just got two knives I ordered 6months ago And they turned out phenomenal. I didn’t have any communication problems, I would receive a response within a day or two at the most through text. I highly recommend his work just understand it might take a minute to get your order but 6 months in my opinion isn’t bad compared to a lot of other custom knife makers who have even longer waiting times. What would benefit Evers forge works is getting a new website made that payment,Communication,and your custom orders all be done on.
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At this point I think this is a lie. And he is scamming folks out of their money. I've been waiting since 2021 and still haven't got my $1200 worth of knives and tomahawk.
 
I also have had issues with Evers Forgeworks. Bought a couple knives from him back around 2016/17 after seeing him featured on Slate Operations IG, and took a year to get them. That should have been a red flag for me but I ordered another knife June, 2020. Yes, 2020.

And I paid $355 for a fixed blade knife similar to another he had posted on IG. Since then I have messaged on IG, emailed, and texted him multiple times and been told multiple times that it’s ready to go, that he’d ship it the next day, and then… nothing. No shipping confirmation, no pictures of the knife to confirm it exists. Nothing but silence.

I emailed and texted him that if he can’t or won’t ship it, that I would prefer a refund at this point. I ordered it before my kid was born so that my kid could know it was for them when old enough. He had the read receipts on my text so I know he saw it, but never responded. The last time he responded was mid November when he claimed it would be shipped out immediately with extras for my time.

I understand quality can take time. But 5.75 years, with little to no communication, no timeframes, and no commitment when his socials are full of trips to the post office and other orders he has completed.

If I could do it over again, I would get a Winkler or Spartan Blades for production, or Stand To Blades for a more unique, handmade knife.
 
I wonder why so many fall back on the "It'll ship out tomorrow" BS line? It does nothing except make the customers who have been waiting get more angry.
 
The city of Eagle Pass, TX is 9.49 square miles. It has its own police department. Google it.

Those who take other’s money for products or services not-delivered, who repetitively do so, who bunch lots of victims together with the same M.O, who use “lulling techniques” (keep you on the hook by saying “It’s coming, I promise” “ I mailed it” “I’ll mail it next week when it’ll be ready”arguably to run the statute of limitations clock or to get you to plain give up and move on), who claim “it’s just a civil thing” since every dissatisfied customer is an experience of “just an isolated mistake or business error” or that the fault is scratched up to be just that - a blip in business acumen…. But it’s about knowingly doing so, intent, and could be proven from repetition of this activity and (I believe) could be more easily investigated what w all the #’s of complaints and all that social digital media evidence of this ongoing. All those losses quickly aggregate over time. “Lulling” will generally toll the statute of limitations and in fact in federal wire fraud remain part of the crime and extend the sol. Maybe the county has other specific criminal laws than wider TX.

Going on 20 years back, then I’ve had to call and mail records to some small town PD about my being ripped off by a non-producing knife-maker (I think over maybe $600 of undeliverables?) and they knew of the guy, and knew of other complaints, and guess what, when I mailed these letters *cc’ing to the knife maker and his family members, I did get a spurt of knives and then got more a bit later through a family member. I believe a family member later confided a detective did visit.

No way I’d be sitting on undelivered goods this long. Would you be writing and making phone calls if you genuinely feel you’ve been criminally offended by such conduct? I’m not saying to pain someone, but there are various legitimate legal arenas to take your situation, well within the bounds of fairness and courtesy, and I believe one could be to refer the matter to the police, if you so truly feel you’re being defrauded. You have to be assertive, make a good summary to help prove your point, provide your detailed records and ask that an incident report be produced of a crime.

I’m no attorney so take it w a grain of salt, but
Texas:
Theft of Service/Property (Penal Code §31.03/31.04): If a seller takes payment but never intends to deliver the goods, they are committing theft.
  • $2,500 - $30,000: State Jail Felony (180 days to 2 years in state jail).
  • $30,000 - $150,000: Third-Degree Felony (2 to 10 years in prison
The statute in TX is five years for theft for felonies and 2 years for misdemeanors. Don’t let anyone run the clock. The great thing is $ (and #’s of victims) which fall outside the statute still aggregate for sentencing. Also, "seller takes payment but never intends to deliver the goods" can be proven easily via common sense, for example, that he has a pattern of non-delivery and promises ongoing for longer than it takes time to make the product in a reasonable period of time, absent some unforeseen circumstance, which circumstance would have been communicated to the buyer and funds offered to be refunded. So if the practice is to take money and not deliver with multitudes of customers over years - then this should be a very easy case. How can someone not provide a good after payment over years, even in a craft business?! The question becomes how much was lost - $2.5k-$30k - or more? One forum customer is out $1200 from five years ago and how many more are there on other forums and feeds? 10 or 20? The loss figure adds up real quick.
 
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rrrgcy said:
The city of Eagle Pass, TX is 9.49 square miles. It has its own police department. Google it.

Those who take other’s money for products or services not-delivered, who repetitively do so, who bunch lots of victims together with the same M.O, who use “lulling techniques” (keep you on the hook by saying “It’s coming, I promise” “ I mailed it” “I’ll mail it next week when it’ll be ready”arguably to run the statute of limitations clock or to get you to plain give up and move on), who claim “it’s just a civil thing” since every dissatisfied customer is an experience of “just an isolated mistake or business error” or that the fault is scratched up to be just that - a blip in business acumen…. But it’s about knowingly doing so, intent, and could be proven from repetition of this activity and (I believe) could be more easily investigated what w all the #’s of complaints and all that social digital media evidence of this ongoing. All those losses quickly aggregate over time. “Lulling” will generally toll the statute of limitations and in fact in federal wire fraud remain part of the crime and extend the sol. Maybe the county has other specific criminal laws than wider TX.

Going on 20 years back, then I’ve had to call and mail records to some small town PD about my being ripped off by a non-producing knife-maker (I think over maybe $600 of undeliverables?) and they knew of the guy, and knew of other complaints, and guess what, when I mailed these letters *cc’ing to the knife maker and his family members, I did get a spurt of knives and then got more a bit later through a family member. I believe a family member later confided a detective did visit.

No way I’d be sitting on undelivered goods this long. Would you be writing and making phone calls if you genuinely feel you’ve been criminally offended by such conduct? I’m not saying to pain someone, but there are various legitimate legal arenas to take your situation, well within the bounds of fairness and courtesy, and I believe one could be to refer the matter to the police, if you so truly feel you’re being defrauded. You have to be assertive, make a good summary to help prove your point, provide your detailed records and ask that an incident report be produced of a crime.

I’m no attorney so take it w a grain of salt, but
Texas:
Theft of Service/Property (Penal Code §31.03/31.04): If a seller takes payment but never intends to deliver the goods, they are committing theft.
  • $2,500 - $30,000: State Jail Felony (180 days to 2 years in state jail).
  • $30,000 - $150,000: Third-Degree Felony (2 to 10 years in prison
The statute in TX is five years for theft for felonies and 2 years for misdemeanors. Don’t let anyone run the clock. The great thing is $ (and #’s of victims) which fall outside the statute still aggregate for sentencing.
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Great post, thank you!
 
Thanks. More of a rant. In any such matter, you Gotta emphasize to the law all the others out there other than you being victimized to show how big it can go and how it blemishes the town. Me remembering being near-burned and to fight tooth-nail to be made whole, notifying the maker he should put me at the front of the line, get in his shop, and MAKE and GIVE ME MY KNIVES asap(!), while sending him the police correspondence, these stories bring it all back. Makes one grit their teeth. I cannot think of an excuse why product is not made and shipped once payment comes in. Make ‘em in order of payment and deliver it. Or refund the money, in installments if necessary. Period.

One obvious beat-a-dead-horse take. If you’ve sent your money to a maker in Year A and by Year C don’t have your knife, and yet the maker is going to shows or making Instagram videos with new knives, talking about new models, showing off, and only delivering a few knives to a few blessed folk, and STILL not delivering to those owed from Year A - well, guess what?! That’s a Ponzi scheme. Do you believe the maker used your money to buy equipment and stock and tools to make knives? Or do you believe it more likely the maker used your hard-earned cash to spend on his cable bill, go out with the boys to the bar, pay down that truck, send some money to his ex-wife and a little bit for dinner for his new girlfriend? Your $$$ from Year A will have been long ago spent. Any detective from any local PD could open a case armed with several complaints and easily subpoena or court order bank records to show INCOMING payments and Expenses. It’s going to ID the buyers, too. Interview all the buyers. Get your stuff? What promises were made, how often, over what time, got your records? Interview the Maker. Does he have an LLC and is he properly using his money; that is, using it for expenses (and if needed pay himself a salary AFTER delivering product)? Was he using the LLC to limit his liability from customers, yet did his actions w the $$ pierce the corporate veil, by spending on personal expenses, not delivering, and now it’s demonstrably a scheme to defraud? Detectives subpoena methods of shipment (FedEx UPS USPS) to confirm outgoing shipments and customer names who get goods. Detectives research business purchases to vet them and contact suppliers. The game is completely proven w the bank (and PayPal, whatever) records and stiffs can’t delete those... often those who shaft customers shaft the IRS, too. Bank statements don’t lie.

Isn’t there a small county reporter investigative journalist that would love to hear complaints? They’ll certainly research things and leave well enough alone if someone is acting responsibly. But if they’re not - well… they ask questions.

So, what’s been done with everyone’s money? If anyone hasn’t received their good, shouldn’t you make your demand in writing for the cost of certified mail, demand your money back within 30-days, and if he can’t refund you - well, it’s a small town w law enforcement.

If a maker has long ago used your money for other things, and by Year C you still ain’t got your good or refund, you could try one more time to ask for it before you take legal options. He who pushes may get to the front of the line and finally “get their thing!”
 
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