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Why am I limited to only four pictures in the FS forum? I can't see trying to sale more than one knife in one post, if I can only put 4 pictures in. Hope everyone understans my point.

Dave
 
Interested in seeing how the cross-linking to gallery is going to turn out. Not being sales threads, negative comments are allowed (not mean-spirited, but honest assessments and pointing out flaws) If the gallery becomes a portal for buyers, the comments could be good/bad. Good in that it encourages makers to offer their best pieces, bad in that even the most nit-picky buyers/viewers can voice themselves in a thread directly related to selling the work.

The ability to chat about the knives will be a draw, clicking on the sale link would be only to verify the price since pics and specs will already be in the gallery thread. I wonder how it will affect traffic directly to the for sale forum, and if that will push more and more makers to cross link, just shifting the traffic/bumping issue to the gallery.

AFAIK, there's no 72 hour or thread count per page rule there. Start a handful of threads over several weeks/months with variations of the same model, link them all to the same for sale thread that could be pages back on that forum, only edit the price over time or for material changes, do all your bumping and atta-boying in the gallery.
 
I think the rules make sense and I see no reason to defy any of them. :)

One thing for me though, is posting a follow up on a thread where I bought something. For example, I bought a piece of ivory from Mark Knapp and Mark got it out to me incredibly fast from Alaska. I posted on his sale thread that I got it, loved it, and thanked him.

I suppose technically I should have went into the G,B,& U forum to post that, but it was simple and relevant to post it in Mark's sale thread. I know (at least personally) makers tend to look at threads like that, to see if the buyer does follow up with a little feedback. It keeps us in tune with who delivers on their word! :)

I've done the same thing with Mark from BurlSource many times.

The way I'm reading the rules... this very thing I'm talking about is a NO NO :confused: If that's the case, then I can't say I'm on board with that one (not that that matters to anyone! LOL) ;) :)
 
NickWheeler said:
I think the rules make sense and I see no reason to defy any of them. :)

One thing for me though, is posting a follow up on a thread where I bought something. For example, I bought a piece of ivory from Mark Knapp and Mark got it out to me incredibly fast from Alaska. I posted on his sale thread that I got it, loved it, and thanked him.

I suppose technically I should have went into the G,B,& U forum to post that, but it was simple and relevant to post it in Mark's sale thread. I know (at least personally) makers tend to look at threads like that, to see if the buyer does follow up with a little feedback. It keeps us in tune with who delivers on their word! :)

I've done the same thing with Mark from BurlSource many times.

The way I'm reading the rules... this very thing I'm talking about is a NO NO :confused: If that's the case, then I can't say I'm on board with that one (not that that matters to anyone! LOL) ;) :)
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Presuming they still put a "I'll take it" in the for sale thread. All they would need to do is edit that post to include "Arrived quickly, looks great". That would document the transaction without bumping off the fellow on the bottom of the page.
 
NickWheeler said:
I think the rules make sense and I see no reason to defy any of them. :)

One thing for me though, is posting a follow up on a thread where I bought something. For example, I bought a piece of ivory from Mark Knapp and Mark got it out to me incredibly fast from Alaska. I posted on his sale thread that I got it, loved it, and thanked him.

I suppose technically I should have went into the G,B,& U forum to post that, but it was simple and relevant to post it in Mark's sale thread. I know (at least personally) makers tend to look at threads like that, to see if the buyer does follow up with a little feedback. It keeps us in tune with who delivers on their word! :)

I've done the same thing with Mark from BurlSource many times.

The way I'm reading the rules... this very thing I'm talking about is a NO NO :confused: If that's the case, then I can't say I'm on board with that one (not that that matters to anyone! LOL) ;) :)
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You don't sell here Nick so you don't know how this would effect you . I'm not being mean spirited here , you know me , just stating a fact .
 
Esav Benyamin said:
The whole idea of no more than 2 threads on the first page (and no more than four on page one and two) is to have you list multiple knives in each thread. List five knives in one thread and ten in another and you're good to go, that's two threads, not 15.
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I am all for this! Its hard to sell damascus when one or two guys take up the whole first page of the supply section.
 
I'm mostly speaking from the buyers side of it, which I do more than plenty of.

Nathan is right and I feel kind of silly that I didn't think of it that way.
 
Seems to me that infractions will continue and folks will need reminded again and again as this evolves more into an effort in frustration just trying to keep up with all the changes and rules which I find confusing personally. No chatting has been in effect for sometime and thats worked for the most part although I recognize some forget and/or don't know this until its too late. My thoughts are this: why not just make it so everyone can lock down and close threads they start in the exchange forums and make it a simple rule that you can list items for sale if you are a paying member and that you must immediately lock/close the thread upon listing the last item to prevent additional posts or bumps? This way no one can reply to your thread and you can still edit whatever and all communications are carried out privately through the instant message or private message system or email. If you need to bump after 72 hours then open it and bump and close it again afterwards.

STR
 
Remember, we're just talking here, trying to understand what these rules mean, how to apply them. If you want to make a serious suggestion, take it to Tech Support because Spark has to make these decisions.
 
NickWheeler said:
I'm mostly speaking from the buyers side of it, which I do more than plenty of.

Nathan is right and I feel kind of silly that I didn't think of it that way.
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Nah. Not silly at all. We're programed to think of a thread that has changed as popping back to the top. And, speaking for myself, I don't really like thread editing. I prefer the idea that what was wrote was wrote and isn't changing. I also like the idea that new information in a thread causes it to pop up. Editing posts ruins the logical progression of a thread from the top to the bottom. You're thinking about it right, not at all silly. However - I think the normal protocols that apply to IRC and forums cause a problem with sale threads, so we're deviating.

Getting everyone to follow the rules is probably going to be a pill. And those who do follow will suffer until it becomes the norm. And getting all the buyers and sellers on the same page and conforming to etiquette is going to be like herding cats.

Stacy has his work cut out for him.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
Nah. Not silly at all. We're programed to think of a thread that has changed as popping back to the top. And, speaking for myself, I don't really like thread editing. I prefer the idea that what was wrote was wrote and isn't changing. I also like the idea that new information in a thread causes it to pop up. Editing posts ruins the logical progression of a thread from the top to the bottom. You're thinking about it right, not at all silly. However - I think the normal protocols that apply to IRC and forums cause a problem with sale threads, so we're deviating.

Getting everyone to follow the rules is probably going to be a pill. And those who do follow will suffer until it becomes the norm. And getting all the buyers and sellers on the same page and conforming to etiquette is going to be like herding cats.

Stacy has his work cut out for him.
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good post Nathan and funny . I like the herding cats analogy :D
 
David Stifle said:
Why am I limited to only four pictures in the FS forum? I can't see trying to sale more than one knife in one post, if I can only put 4 pictures in. Hope everyone understans my point.

Dave
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There is a easy way around this that I don't think will break the posting rules and guide lines.
Post one picture of each knife, then post links to the other pictures of that knife from as many angles as you see fit. Another option is to edit four pictures of one knife in to a single picture, then you could get 4 knives in one post with 4 views of each.
If these thoughts violate any of the rules that I have missed, please let me know. Personally I would go the link way to something like photobucket
Like this

For Sale: this thing
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http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt33/mtbguy/Hiking/DSC00817.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt33/mtbguy/Hiking/DSC00709.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt33/mtbguy/Hiking/DSC00774.jpg

Then knife 2
and so on

PS No I am not for sale and neither are the other people in the pictures or the land:p
 
It is two threads per page one ( not two posts). You can post five photos on post one and five more on post two, if you can's get enough info in five photos. I see no problem with five posts consecutively when posting five knives on one thread.

The OP can always lock or edit his thread as he wishes.
 
So I have a question on this rule for knifemakers:

KNIFEMAKER / CRAFTSMAN / SERVICE PROVIDER (hearafter referred to as "Knifemaker") - Knifemaker's are allowed to sell items that they have personally created or modified in the KnifeMaker For Sale forums, or their own Hosted KnifeMaker Forum. If you are a knifemaker and would like your own Hosted KnifeMaker Forum, please contact us.

Let's assume it's a block of wood you bought but aren't going to use, or a grinder, HT oven, Tool, etc. In other words something you bought but probably aren't going to use. Does this rule prohibit a sale of something you haven't made/modified for a knife maker? Or would we/they be allowed to sell any item related to the appropriate forum. Because "to the letter" that rule mentions nothing about selling items they haven't made or modified.
 
Obviously, such items would be in the Knifemaking Supplies & Tools sub-forum.

The intent of "made by yourself" was to require those who are really dealers to get a dealer/provider membership.
Surplus and used items that are the personal possessions of a maker ( not items for sale as inventory) are allowed to be sold. If you are selling such items constantly and to support yourself....then you are a dealer/provider and should upgrade your membership.

So,
If you buy a board of cocobola and want to sell some of the scales you cut to help pay for the ones you keep....that is OK.
If you buy a board of cocobola and sell all the scales to make money....you are a dealer.
 
bladsmth said:
It is two threads per page one ( not two posts). You can post five photos on post one and five more on post two, if you can's get enough info in five photos. I see no problem with five posts consecutively when posting five knives on one thread.

The OP can always lock or edit his thread as he wishes.
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Not to just keep jumping on you Stacy, but it seems we are not allowed to post in our own threads until 72 hours after our own original post so two threads IS two posts. Please correct me if I misunderstood the 72 hour rule. On a side note I would prefer it if my happy customers could say so in my thread, thats what good custome service is all about.
 
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