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Evidence of handle adhesive - 110
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Yes, Pack I do remember this thread and subsequent discussion . DM
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Sometimes I get a kick out our threads here on the forum,we are a different breed of cat(myself included)You guys may get tired of me before the day is over if not already.
But when I stuck those pics up of the rear spacer earlier, something jumped out and bit me, as bro Dave might say,,,, or goosed me as Bro Goose might say.
So I am going to start with one of the pics I put up earlier and go from there.
In this one look at the old ones right at where the handles meet the bolsters.
And then down along the edges of the right hand knife. Can see the adhesive.
Believe me when I say, that isn't visible with just a casual look at either of them. This high res camera does bring out things that may not otherwise be noticed. So here are some more pics that you may find interesting.
ok, ok, I am showing off, or not, a 3rd version, minty? This and the rest, is the knife on the right.
Might give you an idea of what I am seeing... and it is on both of those old ones. First time I ever noticed.....
Well rats again.... photobucket downsized these pics big time... now I remember why I like image shack for large files. The originals are around 1.7 meg and show much better detail.
You might be a Buck forum member IF/ You examine an old Buck 110 more closely than a new future wife.
LOL,I'm the same way.:thumbup:
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Just to make it clear I'm making fun of myselfSometimes I get a kick out our threads here on the forum,we are a different breed of cat(myself included)
You might be a Buck forum member IF/ You examine an old Buck 110 more closely than a new future wife.
.I'm what you may call back woods and have a thing for quality knives.While I'm in Ca. I'm going to visit a Pro Bass store about an hours drive from me.Never seen one and I'm thinking it's gonna be like Disneyland.:thumbup:Back when I started in ought eight, not really it was 1974, we glued all of the 110 and 112 inlays on to the brass sides. They were being glued on long before I started also. The brass being used at the time was provided by Revere Forging. We would glue the inlays on (they were rectangular blocks) then sand, shape, drill and finaly rivet the wood to the brass.
In early 1975 we began a conversation to the sintered brass, from Pacific Sintered Metals, which is what we still use today. for the first few months of using the new sintered brass, we glued the wood to the brass, but by mid year had transitioned to only riveting the wood to the brass. I am very familiar with this as I was the first operator on teh "inlay" riveter for the 110's to only rivet the wood on. I also still have the scar on the bottom of my left index finger where the removed a rivet from my finger after i drove it into my finger from the top (we didn't need no stinkin guards back then
).
At that time, we were still using only 2 inlay rivets, one at the front and one at the back, plus the rocker rivet/pin.
The glue that we used was a 3M two part epoxy structural adhesive- tough stuff. We still use it on the fixed blade knives (119's, 102's, ect). Great adhesive and great gap filler which was one of the main reasons we used it on the 110/112. We dyed the glue for the 110/112 black to make it less obvious, otherwise the glue is a light gray color.
To clean everything we used trichlorethane (spelling?) which was a great solvent; also kills plants, animals, brain cells and pretty much anything else that it comes in contact with or that breathes it- but it was a great solvent. It would not disolve cured glue though. the best release agent was heat; get the handle very hot and the glue would release (at least sometimes). The solvent has of course been outlawed for many years.
We actually used the same solvent with wax in it to do the final cleaning on the 110/112 back then.
Hope this sheds a little light on the glue and gives you a bit of useless info the is entertainng.
Bill Keys
Director of Manufacturing and Engineering
Buck Knives Inc.
In early 1975 we began a conversation to the sintered brass, from Pacific Sintered Metals, which is what we still use today. for the first few months of using the new sintered brass, we glued the wood to the brass, but by mid year had transitioned to only riveting the wood to the brass. I am very familiar with this as I was the first operator on teh "inlay" riveter for the 110's to only rivet the wood on. I also still have the scar on the bottom of my left index finger where the removed a rivet from my finger after i drove it into my finger from the top (we didn't need no stinkin guards back then
). At that time, we were still using only 2 inlay rivets, one at the front and one at the back, plus the rocker rivet/pin.
The glue that we used was a 3M two part epoxy structural adhesive- tough stuff. We still use it on the fixed blade knives (119's, 102's, ect). Great adhesive and great gap filler which was one of the main reasons we used it on the 110/112. We dyed the glue for the 110/112 black to make it less obvious, otherwise the glue is a light gray color.
To clean everything we used trichlorethane (spelling?) which was a great solvent; also kills plants, animals, brain cells and pretty much anything else that it comes in contact with or that breathes it- but it was a great solvent. It would not disolve cured glue though. the best release agent was heat; get the handle very hot and the glue would release (at least sometimes). The solvent has of course been outlawed for many years.
We actually used the same solvent with wax in it to do the final cleaning on the 110/112 back then.
Hope this sheds a little light on the glue and gives you a bit of useless info the is entertainng.
Bill Keys
Director of Manufacturing and Engineering
Buck Knives Inc.
